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What I Have Learned About Relocational Astrology

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I have since taken a locational astrology course by Moses Siregar III who is one the most experienced and dedicated relocational astrologers out there, on par with Julian Lee who I was originally studying from although Moses goes into more detail. The course consisted of about 20 hours of video classes. It's a great course (available here). I'd recommend it to anyone seriously interested in practicing locational astrology, although it's +$200, it's worth it to get into the many nuances, scenarios of various clients he's had and more refined techniques etc.

I've made some changes and updated this post to reflect some key points of what I've learned.

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The Relocated Natal Chart is Primary

Julian Lee in particular emphasises that the relocated chart becomes the primary chart over the natal chart and goes so far as to say you throw away the natal chart and never look at it again after relocation. Moses, however, believes that the natal chart can still be activated after relocation. You must create a whole new chart for the location in question and study it as you would a normal natal chart.


House Rulers Are Very Important

They both make strong use of house rulers and says the condition of the house ruler by sign, house and aspects is as important as the planets occupying the house for determining the functioning of the house.


Non-Angular Houses Are Still Important

If you're in a place with Jupiter conjunct Midheaven but your 2nd house is a wreck, you will have problem with finances. If you have children but your relocated 5th house is suffering, then people often see difficulties in that area. If you're an author, having the midheaven ruler in the 3rd would be a good idea etc.


Multiple House Systems are Used For a Complete Picture

Moses emphasises the importance of using multiple house systems to get the most accurate results. He has found that Porphyry and Equal house are the most accurate and uses *both* sometimes mixed with Whole Sign to build a complete picture. He talks about Porphyry a bit in this article: http://www.astrologyforthesoul.com/p...sesystems.html

Planets can have mixed influences in that it can be in one house in Porphyry and another in Equal, thus influencing both.

Note that any conjunction to an Equal house cusp is an aspect to the ascendant as well. For instance, a trine to the ascendant from a planet below the horizon is conjunct the 5th house cusp and above the horizon is conjunct the 9th house cusp. This allows you to translate the effect of aspects to the ascendant by looking at the activation of the house cusp in question.


Conjunctions to Any of The House Cusps Activates That House And Planet

If a planet is within about 3 degrees of a Porphyry or Equal house cusp, then that house will be strongly emphasised in the location. The tighter the orb, the stronger the influence. This can be any house cusp. If the planet is conjunct both the Porphyry and Equal house cusp then the influence is even stronger for that house and planet.

This is the strongest factor Moses has noticed influences a location, although all the other factors are still very important. Locations where no planet is near any house cusp tend to not have much going on either positively or negatively.


The Latitude of Planetary Crossings Influence That Entire Latitude Accross the Globe

These are called 'Parans', which is a horizontal line going across the entire latitude of the globe where two planetary lines intersect. A location within 1 degree latitude of a line is influenced by it, being stronger the closer you get. Moses will not recommend places with negative Parans and says you can have a great chart in a location but if it's on some particularly bad Parans then he will not use it. But he also says that a positive chart will help bring out the more positive manifestations of mid-range difficulty Parans.


Astrocartography / Line-Maps Are Fundamentally Flawed

They only show conjunctions to the angles and don't take into consideration all the other chart factors. Sometimes moving to say a Jupiter line would be a bad idea due to other chart factors. There could, and most of the time is, much better places in 'empty spaces' on the map which don't have any lines. These places might have much better conditions in the chart.

When Astrocartography was devised, Michel Gauquelin was studying conjunctions to angles and this was big news at the time. Around this time astrologers were focusing on these conjunctions to angles and ignoring other chart factors due to the nature of Gauquelin's research. So Jim Lewis made Astrocartography to focus on the conjunctions which was fashionable at the time and also because mapping all the other chart factors would create a map which was impossible to read as every bit of space would have some line on it.

But through studying thousands of relocations, Julien Lee had concluded early on that the fully relocated chart is far more important than just angular conjunctions.


Semi-Sextiles and Quincunxes are Major Aspects

From studying so many charts, Julian Lee has found that the most difficult aspect is the Quincunx (even more difficult than opposition and squares). He has also found that the semi-sextile is neither a minor nor a harmonious aspect and he considers it another major hard aspect. The signs in both these aspects have nothing to do with eachother yet they are tied together in these aspects. He suggets reading interpretations of them like a square and 'twisting them around' a few times.


Transits and Progressions are Extremely Important

Moving to say a strong Venus area, for instance, would be detrimental if your natal Venus is undergoing a longterm hard aspect from progressed Saturn. Transits / progressions are extremely important in determining a location. Sometimes a place which would usually be negative would actual yield positive experiences if positive transits are happening to those planets / houses and vice-versa.

Julian Lee makes use of this more than Moses, although they both consider transits.


Relationship Areas

He often gets new female clients who have studied an astrocartography map, moved to their Venus Descendant line but haven't been attracting relationships. The first question he asks them is if they suddenly have lots of attractive female friends, to which they say yes. This is because this area attracts women, but for a women to attract men she wants to be in a Mars/7th or Jupiter/7th area.

He also says that the condition of the 7th house is primary for relationships. You could have a weak natal Venus and that won't matter much at all if your relocated 7th is strong in terms of occupying planets or house ruler.


Refs

- Julian Lee's website
- Moses Siregar III's website
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