Trump and Pluto in Capricorn

david starling

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The financial crash of 2008 coincided with Pluto Transiting Capricorn, and had a direct bearing on the Election. Pluto was both god of the Underworld AND god of material wealth. I've facetiously dubbed Trump "High Priest of Pluto", but that would be Pluto in Capricorn where wealth in this world is concerned. Pluto entering Aquarius in 2023 will change that, but won't be in time for the 2020 Election. Hadn't made the connection with Pluto in Capricorn until now. Any thoughts?
 

Dubyadude1986

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Hi David!

I hope you are all doing well. I got locked out for a few months because I lost my password and mixed everything up. I think it's a pisces thing.

I am going to be posting images and explanations, just know a detailed response is coming!
 

Dubyadude1986

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When Trump won, Mars went into 00'00 Aquarius. The U.S. natal progressed chart for 1712p.m. Philadelphia july 4 1776 shows Pluto at 29 degrees Capricorn and Vertex at 00 degrees Aquarius.

Trump has Mars exact Regulus, which transiitted into the U.S. 00'00 Aquarius, and was activated by the vertex.

The time of this natal Mars ingress into Aquarius 00'00 that activated US natal vertex was 0051 a.m.

During the electoral vote cast, on December 19th, Mars moves into 00'00 Pisces.

On inauguration day at noon, it is the Sun at 00'00 Aquarius...

I am using time cycles graphics:
 

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Dubyadude1986

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And Speaking of Pluto in Capricorn, in 2020, it will join Saturn and Jupiter in Capricorn and it reminds me of the super-stellium in 88 that contributed toward the end of the USSR. :)

There is something here.

Look at all this Capricorn. These Capricorn aspects will form oppositions to the U.S. natal Cancer stellium, however, I think that these aspects can be considered conjunctions at times in predictive astrology and the U.S. is having it's first PLUTO RETURN in 2023ish.

The US had Saturn Neptune Saturn opposite it's natal Cancer stellium (i believe is on a 2nd/8th axis) during the Reagan Administration and the fall of the USSR.

While I have been locked out, I have done a lot of my own research with IO Sprite, and people need to go through astro-gold or something and look at the buildup to 2020. Wow.
 

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Dubyadude1986

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This election and the 1980 election are also an astrological spitting image in a bi-wheel. Today is 1980. and 2020, is 1990... Sort of... This is the Cartography of Mars at that time on election night at 0051 a.m. on the 9th of November when Mars went into Aqua...
 

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Chillaxer

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Pluto Capricorn seems indicative of overhaul of establishment, that which is going on globally.


It would seem to peak about 2030/2035. Halfway through Aqua then. This is looking at the last two cycles, going back to Thomas Cromwell in England first and then the French and American revolutions.
 

winterwaltz

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The financial crash of 2008 coincided with Pluto Transiting Capricorn, and had a direct bearing on the Election. Pluto was both god of the Underworld AND god of material wealth. I've facetiously dubbed Trump "High Priest of Pluto", but that would be Pluto in Capricorn where wealth in this world is concerned. Pluto entering Aquarius in 2023 will change that, but won't be in time for the 2020 Election. Hadn't made the connection with Pluto in Capricorn until now. Any thoughts?

Funny that you mentioned this, because I had this wispy notion in my mind that Hillary Clinton wasn't going to be elected, because of Pluto in Capricorn. I know some people have said something about the planets not working in her favour, but I feel like Capricorn Pluto was more the resultant cause than anything else...
 

MikeySee

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I looked at Trump's, Hillary's and Bernie's charts during the election and noticed that all their natal moon's corresponded with particular outer planet that was being heavily aspected. With Bernie you noticed that he benefitted widely from both Jupiter and north node in Virgo to his Virgo sun but he also had a fiery Aries Moon. Well, Uranus in Aries was in a tussle for years with Pluto in establishment Capricorn. Suddenly we all "felt the Bern" as Uranus (the socialist planet) highlighted his moon making him super popular. The moon represents our popularity and how people respond to us on a personal and emotional level. Uranus in Aries is a pioneer of socialist reforms that are a little ahead of their time. Bernie sort of encapsulated that Uranian energy and he pushed for universal health care, free college, living wage, etc . Sadly when Uranus went retro, he lost his steam and it was clear that he wasnt going to be the dem candidate.

The next two planets to go to war were both Neptune in Pisces and Saturn in Sagittarius. Hillary whose natal moon is in Pisces encapsulated the vibe of Neptune (compassion, healthcare, coming together but also secrets, scandal and confusion). On the plus side, Neptune rules Pisces which gave her strength and a destined purpose (and she even worked to include Bernie's reforms into her platform which was more moderate, yes, but she understood that middle america wasn't prepared for revolution just yet).

Saturn on the other hand is in Sag a sign it does not feel comfortable in. Sagittarius is loud, risky, ostentatious and brutally honest whereas Saturn is more subdued, cautious, frugal and calculated. Saturn doesn't do well here and we saw it in the rise of populism, xenophobia and Trump's promise to build a wall. Saturn is fear and restriction and Sagittarius represents different cultures, immigrants, people of faith (muslims), scholars, travel etc and now we're seeing Brexit, threats to open boarders, and fear of Mexicans, muslims, experts etc. Also Trump's Sag moon encompassed the Saturn in Sagittarius energy and played on peoples fears. On election night the transiting moon started out in aquarius but ended in Pisces (same sign as Hillary's Moon and Neptune) and I knew it would fair well for Hillary especially on the west coast where people voted later and I was sure she was a shoe-in but Saturn was trining Uranus which rules the unexpected. The sad thing was, Hillary won popular vote by largest margin over electoral college ever but trump still won which shocked even his supporters (uranus).

Neptune also rules Martyrs which I feel Hillary was martyred for standing up to Putin in 2011 when she was secretary of state. She put sanctions on him for Russia's non democratic elections then more were added when he invaded Ukraine. The fake news stories that helped sway the election came via Russia which plays out with the Saturn/Neptune square (confusion through media and false publications). The same strategy was used on the UK to influence Brexit and I fear the Russians will try it also with both France's and Germany's upcoming elections to destabilize Europe and flood the world market with cheap oil when Trump (who I strongly feel was primed for president by Putin) will lift sanctions against Russia and allow his pic for secretary of state (rex tillerson head of exon for gods sake) so they can drill the rich oil reserves of Siberia and make himself and putin RICH all while reversing environmental protections, clean energy, women/gay/human rights etc.

This fits in with Pluto in Capricorn. If you look at your history, the US was formed during its last passage. The powers that be became so power hungry and detached from its citizenry that there was an uprising. A revolt. Our government was based in England and america was seen as an endless supply of resources for the British who had the power to enact various parliamentary laws effecting life and trade in the 13 colonies but only benefited the British. Americans weren't afforded the same rights as the British people and had no representatives in Parliament to present their points of view (taxation without representation). This began the protests which resulted in the Revolutionary War. Now I see how the new revolution will be played out. The powers in control of our government will be so detached from the needs and desires of the people that the we must rise up. I've been telling people for years that this wouldn't be peaceful. I also foresaw civil war but more based on ideals than actual borders (party lines?). When the revolutionary war broke out, it was a civil war. American revolutionaries against British loyalists. There is so much anxiety now more than I've ever experienced. The stolen election, Standing Rock and tensions between liberals and conservatives over marriage equality, trans rights, land rights, environmental protections and immigrants is beginning to boil over. If we don't stand up to the Plutocrat billionaires clutching to the Age of Pisces oil paradigm, we are gonna be in a world of hurt especially when Pluto hits Aquarius (it'll be like the French revolution on steroids).
 

Kuntuzangmo

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Do you see anything in the days following the inauguration? There are myriad reasons for the guy to be impeached. I'm wondering if his slippery ways will continue to rue the day or if he will finally be pinned to the wall...?
 

MikeySee

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Well, Saturn is sort of hovering over his moon and opposing his sun making him "HUUUGELY" unpopular. There has never been a president elect in living memory as polarizing as Trump is now (even Nixon had more respect). Trump however, has Jupiter working in his favor (he's been experiencing his Jupiter return since December) but stuff is coming out that is potentially damaging especially during this last full Moon in Cancer which was part of a grand cross. I feel that with Neptune and Saturn continuing to spar, secrets will arise about how much the FBI knew and who was in who's pockets but the checks and balances aren't there. Inauguration day chart has a square between Mars and Saturn which doesn't bode well for the incoming administration (or the nation) especially with tensions so high. Standing rock will be in the news again. Its linked heavily (this is a war over oil money) and its gonna set off 60's style protests which will continue a movement.
 
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