Does this chart explain my loveless life?

waterlilly

waterlilly

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sethi said:
Hello.

I have never looked for "love " in a chart.

So what is love?

Or are you looking for a long term relationship? like marriage?

I have checked your chart. In my eyes the 2nd house is afflicted. It is not a foregone conclusion, however, it just means that you will have to strive harder in this department.

I would guess that the 8th house of sex, death and regeneration are important for you .

Ruler of fifth house jupiter is in the 1st and receiving squares and opposition, so you will be disappointed in love repeatedly for sure.

So you had a friendship with a leo, the next one I would say would be a virgo. Only time will tell.

Owner of seventh venus is along with sun, and is coming "under its beams" so this reduces it effects mostly plus it is in square position to your 7th .

So once again there will be difficulties in finding a long relationship.

Saturn is in the third house in relation to the moon, the last 2.5 years. Or 2 years. You just have to pass this time. Also called saarsati.

So a rough guess I would say that the last 4 years or so were not really very good years, and especially the time when saturn touched your moon, and your venus. Might have shown you who were your real friends and on whom you could trust (or not trust)

Jupiter is now in taurus and about opposition to natal.

Wait for the time when jupiter enters cancer, for a better and long lasting partner.

Would you like to know more?
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yes please Sethi, I would indeed like to know more. It has been a terrible few years, I actually have no one in my life I feel I can trust with my stuff without, them either feeling obligated or burdened with my concerms. Can I ask if you see a house move? Maybe there are just to many other things I need to attend to?
 
sethi

sethi

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waterlilly said:
yes please Sethi, I would indeed like to know more. It has been a terrible few years, I actually have no one in my life I feel I can trust with my stuff without, them either feeling obligated or burdened with my concerms. Can I ask if you see a house move? Maybe there are just to many other things I need to attend to?
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Was there a house move in 2008 or 2009?
 
hazelrah

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Just to throw another view out there, I could see Saturn in your seventh house being the "culprit" here, as has already been suggested. I've heard that the nature of Saturn is that it makes you wait for what you want. It does not withhold your desires forever, just makes you wait...
If you look at this in the right light, it's very much a positive.
For one thing, maybe you weren't ready to handle the demands of a committed relationship in your younger years, or able to do the work that this kind of relationship REQUIRES.
For another thing, not all the good stuff should happen just in the first part of life. With Saturn here, you know you still have some pretty awesome stuff to look forward to!
 
kimbermoon

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[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Relational chemistry: Moon/Virgo;[earth-needs security ] Mars/Aquarius[air]; Venus Leo/Sun[fire][/FONT]


[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Moon Virgo-earth - [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]need [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]to be exacting and practical: need to offset criticality and [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]pettiness in relationships[/FONT]
V[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]enus/leo – fire -[/FONT][FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]expectations [/FONT][FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]of romance, sincerity and creativity in love[/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Mars / Aquarius-air- [/FONT][FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]desires[/FONT][FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif] freedom and independence in love.[/FONT]


[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]My 2 cents: as hard as it is to accept, in order to 'create' a meaningful and loving relationship we must first know ourselves from within: what do we expect in love ; what are our inherent needs and how do we express and control our passions? This is what I call the 'relational chemistry' that we are conditioned to express. [/FONT]


[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Saturn in the 7th ruling the 2nd: the search for material and financial security through partnership. Saturn shows a karmic commitment to be accountable for your own reactions and responsibilities : are your responsibilities realistic or are they taken on because of a sense of guilt...Your Virgo sun wants to discern the difference between what are realistic or inappropriate duties...have you taken on too many other responsibilities that interfere with your own emotional needs? Do you harbor underlying feelings of guilt or shame? Do you have feelings of unworthiness? [/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Saturn square Venus: necessary setbacks and delays in terms of marriage. Financial and social hardships. The relationship with your father has much to do with your partnership disappointments and challenges [thus you must own the conditioning instilled upon you by the dynamics of your paternal relationships][/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif][/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Born just after the new Moon phase: the Moon phase holds clues to our [FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]domestic imprinting: “ [/FONT][FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Y[/FONT][FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]ou strive to accomplish and fulfill your own personal plans and ideals. You tend to react impulsively and emotionally[/FONT][FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]”[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]the Moon in exact conjunction with Pluto: ill-aspected by mars: possible past abuse or violence creating deeply embedded psychological challenges causing relational imbalance...[/FONT]


[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Additional considerations: [/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Mars/Venus opposition: mars sesquiquadrate Moon: [/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Moon ssq North Node[/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Venus sq Jupiter/neptune; square Saturn [/FONT]


[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]pluto ruling the Ascendant with mars ruling the 5th house [romance and creativity] [/FONT]
just some things to consider
 
waterlilly

waterlilly

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kimbermoon said:
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Relational chemistry: Moon/Virgo;[earth-needs security ] Mars/Aquarius[air]; Venus Leo/Sun[fire][/FONT]


[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Moon Virgo-earth - [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]need [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]to be exacting and practical: need to offset criticality and [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]pettiness in relationships[/FONT]
V[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]enus/leo – fire -[/FONT][FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]expectations [/FONT][FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]of romance, sincerity and creativity in love[/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Mars / Aquarius-air- [/FONT][FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]desires[/FONT][FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif] freedom and independence in love.[/FONT]


[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]My 2 cents: as hard as it is to accept, in order to 'create' a meaningful and loving relationship we must first know ourselves from within: what do we expect in love ; what are our inherent needs and how do we express and control our passions? This is what I call the 'relational chemistry' that we are conditioned to express. [/FONT]


[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Saturn in the 7th ruling the 2nd: the search for material and financial security through partnership. Saturn shows a karmic commitment to be accountable for your own reactions and responsibilities : are your responsibilities realistic or are they taken on because of a sense of guilt...Your Virgo sun wants to discern the difference between what are realistic or inappropriate duties...have you taken on too many other responsibilities that interfere with your own emotional needs? Do you harbor underlying feelings of guilt or shame? Do you have feelings of unworthiness? [/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Saturn square Venus: necessary setbacks and delays in terms of marriage. Financial and social hardships. The relationship with your father has much to do with your partnership disappointments and challenges [thus you must own the conditioning instilled upon you by the dynamics of your paternal relationships][/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif][/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Born just after the new Moon phase: the Moon phase holds clues to our [FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]domestic imprinting: “ [/FONT][FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Y[/FONT][FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]ou strive to accomplish and fulfill your own personal plans and ideals. You tend to react impulsively and emotionally[/FONT][FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]”[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]the Moon in exact conjunction with Pluto: ill-aspected by mars: possible past abuse or violence creating deeply embedded psychological challenges causing relational imbalance...[/FONT]


[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Additional considerations: [/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Mars/Venus opposition: mars sesquiquadrate Moon: [/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Moon ssq North Node[/FONT]
[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]Venus sq Jupiter/neptune; square Saturn [/FONT]


[FONT=DejaVu Serif, serif]pluto ruling the Ascendant with mars ruling the 5th house [romance and creativity] [/FONT]
just some things to consider
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wow thanks! Yep! Sounds like me...hmmm i'm going to start looking into that right now...Thank you once again
 
astrologer50

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sethi,
Owner of seventh venus is along with sun, and is coming "under its beams" so this reduces it effects mostly plus it is in square position to your 7th .
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your ruler of 7th is not 'under the beams' looking at Traditional astrology, it's combust
If it's further than that, and up to 8-1/2 degrees away, it's combust, even if it's in a different sign.

From 8-1/2 to 15 degrees away it's under the beams, which means it's slightly weakened, but not as much as combustion would weaken it.
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T jupiter it gemini going through 7th will do just fine, just be careful when Jupiter meets saturn as these two don't really get along and saturn usually wins...

T Jupiter going through 8th house is better for joint finances getting bank loans, mortgages and sex of course but is less connected with relationships, that belongs to 7th house or even 5th in my mind...

Ruler of the Second House in the Seventh House
Your chart indicates that there is a definite connection between your own resources and the close partnerships you form with other people. What you have may rest on your ability to balance giving and receiving in partnerships of any kind, even business relationships.
It's likely that you place a very high value on your committed relationships, whether with your spouse or best friends and you generally make an extremely loyal partner.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr2
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So depending on what house system you use (I Use Equal of course) ruler of 9th is cancer/moon and is posited in 11th house of friendships. This suggests that you may have a lot of 'faith' in your friends and your spiritual, religious beliefs could influence friends, groups etc..

in Equal house T Saturn is now conj 12th house cusp for next 2.5years and is far less malfic here, depending on what mathamatical aspects aside. So over last 2.5 years going through your 11th and over your, moon, pluto and uranus I would have expected you to have lost a few friends, as saturn was 'testing what is of value to you' what was working or not as the case may be??

T Jupiter in taurus over the last year in 6th your health should have improved and also work opportunities to?

You may also like to research lillith since you put it on your chart and I notice prog sun is conj now :sad:

http://www.angelfire.com/az/zodiacenterprises/LILART.html
http://www.astrotherapy.eu/BlackMoon.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/az/zodiacenterprises/LILART.html
http://www.valkyrieastrology.com/Makeover/asteroids/lilith.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2291

http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/blackmoon/lilith.html
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/lilith-dark-moon.html
http://www.astrologyalive.com/LilithSPEAKS.html
http://www.heliastar.com/triplegoddess.html#blackmoon
http://www.sria.org/lilith_demon.htm
http://www.horoscope-picks.com/myblog.html
 
waterlilly

waterlilly

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astrologer50 said:
sethi,
your ruler of 7th is not 'under the beams' looking at Traditional astrology, it's combust


T jupiter it gemini going through 7th will do just fine, just be careful when Jupiter meets saturn as these two don't really get along and saturn usually wins...

T Jupiter going through 8th house is better for joint finances getting bank loans, mortgages and sex of course but is less connected with relationships, that belongs to 7th house or even 5th in my mind...

Ruler of the Second House in the Seventh House


So depending on what house system you use (I Use Equal of course) ruler of 9th is cancer/moon and is posited in 11th house of friendships. This suggests that you may have a lot of 'faith' in your friends and your spiritual, religious beliefs could influence friends, groups etc..

in Equal house T Saturn is now conj 12th house cusp for next 2.5years and is far less malfic here, depending on what mathamatical aspects aside. So over last 2.5 years going through your 11th and over your, moon, pluto and uranus I would have expected you to have lost a few friends, as saturn was 'testing what is of value to you' what was working or not as the case may be??

T Jupiter in taurus over the last year in 6th your health should have improved and also work opportunities to?

You may also like to research lillith since you put it on your chart and I notice prog sun is conj now :sad:

http://www.angelfire.com/az/zodiacenterprises/LILART.html
http://www.astrotherapy.eu/BlackMoon.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/az/zodiacenterprises/LILART.html
http://www.valkyrieastrology.com/Makeover/asteroids/lilith.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2291

http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/blackmoon/lilith.html
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/lilith-dark-moon.html
http://www.astrologyalive.com/LilithSPEAKS.html
http://www.heliastar.com/triplegoddess.html#blackmoon
http://www.sria.org/lilith_demon.htm
http://www.horoscope-picks.com/myblog.html
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WOW! this is very interesting. I did indeed look into the sun conjuction lilth. The funny thing is My dad who is a leo, I have just removed from my life after years of disappointment once and for all about 6mths ago. He never really loved me and I am tired of pretending he will, does and should. In addition, I have just stopped seeing a Leo whom I met on my course and, I found to be married. He objectified me and it got to a point where he just spoke about sex non stop which had the oppisite afect thank god and really turned me off, Been there done that and it's never gonna happen again. I have another issue I will pm you about all falling under the same catergory of illusions. How do I feel about it? Relieved actually, I have had enough of trying to be that good little girl, or trying to get my dad to want to make up for being such a S**t, not saving me from various abuses and so on. wow. I am coming back to this once i read it through again. thank you Astrologer 50 this is very kind of you
 
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