when a sign inhabits 2 houses, a transit affects which house?

PensiveGemini

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Hi all!

This is a question I always have when reading my horoscope for my rising sign and for others... for example, I am a Cancer rising at 24 degrees (Gemini sun, merc, venus, NN, Chiron) so Capricorn begins in the 6th house for me, cusps on the 7th house and ends soon after. Pluto is in my 6th house and is about to go Retro on April 9th-- as a cancer rising it says it would be affecting my 7th house and while Cap is on the cusp, pluto is still smack in the middle of my 6th... so how would one interpret this? Is it affecting the house it cusps or the house its in?

Thanks in advance!
 
Hi all!

This is a question I always have when reading my horoscope for my rising sign and for others... for example, I am a Cancer rising at 24 degrees (Gemini sun, merc, venus, NN, Chiron) so Capricorn begins in the 6th house for me, cusps on the 7th house and ends soon after. Pluto is in my 6th house and is about to go Retro on April 9th-- as a cancer rising it says it would be affecting my 7th house and while Cap is on the cusp, pluto is still smack in the middle of my 6th... so how would one interpret this? Is it affecting the house it cusps or the house its in?

Thanks in advance!

I use Equal House system and am a modern astrologer. Lots of people that come into Astrology get their free charts calculated at www.astro.com and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all that there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few more.

Throughout the forums but mainly in natal astrology there are two main branches Placidus (unequal size houses) v Equal House (whereby each house is same size) but lots more……. For more information on these go here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology)#Description
http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp
http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm

It's only with study and research will you be able to assess where your planets are deposited and in which houses... thus see which 'glove fits'

Capricorn can only rule/cover your 7th house:love:
 

wilsontc

Staff member
transiting planets affect the house they are in, to Gemini

Gemini,

You asked:
...I am a Cancer rising at 24 degrees (Gemini sun, merc, venus, NN, Chiron) so Capricorn begins in the 6th house for me, cusps on the 7th house and ends soon after. Pluto is in my 6th house...Is it affecting the house it cusps or the house its in?

Transits (moving planets in they sky) affect the house they are in. The exception is if a transiting planet is on the cusp (edge) of a house. In that case, I think the transit affects BOTH houses. However, other astrologers believe that the transit affects the house the planet is transiting TOWARDS. For example, if transiting Pluto is in the 5th house on the 6th house cusp and moving into the 6th house, some astrologers would interpret as being IN the 6th house.

About transits,

Tim
 

PensiveGemini

Well-known member
Hey! Thanks so much for the replies!!

I'm still a little confused, though... so astrologer50, you say it would still affect my 7th house and wilsontc says it affects the house it's in which would be my 6th... I sometimes feel its affecting both... hmmm...
 
Hey! Thanks so much for the replies!!

I'm still a little confused, though... so astrologer50, you say it would still affect my 7th house and wilsontc says it affects the house it's in which would be my 6th... I sometimes feel its affecting both... hmmm...

Where is yoiur chart??

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With ANY house system IF cancer is rising then Capricorn HAS to be ruling 7th house/marriage house. But if using the default on astro.com of placidus then Cappi could poss rule 6th house, but not in Equal house system it couldn't


May I suggest you read the 'welcome to the world of astrology’ and other ---sticky' at the top of this forum? It has some great explanations, links etc. At the top of every forum there are lots of ‘stickys’ which explain matters in that forum, along with guidelines & tips

There is a 'plethora' of information on AW, espec in the 'stickys' at the top of every forum, our Education forum and Recommendations forum to. Plus we have a good search feature,[but not foolproof obviously, so try here first] bit like google using keywords – initially select advanced and try just selecting 'titles' rather than posts or you'll get too many threads. If this doesn’t get results then try google

What Astrology Can and Can Not Do
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http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/whatastrologycandoforyou.html

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=234549&postcount=7
Perhaps you should read this thread entitled: astrology predicts meanings, not events
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17546&page=2
 

PensiveGemini

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Thanks so much, I will read! Attached is my chart with regular house and equal house so you can see what I mean... Cap rules my 7th b.c its on the cusp but it starts there at 24 degrees just as my rising is 24 degrees cancer and pluto is in 7 degrees in my 6th... since its going retrograde tomorrow, I'm curious if it will affect my 6th, 7th or both.

Right now Saturn is in Libra which is on my 4th house cusp but even before it entered my fourth house, as soon as Saturn went into Libra, my Step-father lost his job, my brother lost his scholarship, my mother was diagnosed with diabetes, I began having issues with my roommates and so on and so forth. Anyway, sounds like i have to read those articles.
 

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Thanks so much, I will read! Attached is my chart with regular house and equal house so you can see what I mean... Cap rules my 7th b.c its on the cusp but it starts there at 24 degrees just as my rising is 24 degrees cancer and pluto is in 7 degrees in my 6th... since its going retrograde tomorrow, I'm curious if it will affect my 6th, 7th or both. IF/when T Pluto actually makes an aspect to something within your chart or an Angle ie: MC/Asc then it will simply be a background influence.

Right now Saturn is in Libra which is on my 4th house cusp but even before it entered my fourth house, as soon as Saturn went into Libra, my Step-father lost his job, my brother lost his scholarship, my mother was diagnosed with diabetes, I began having issues with my roommates and so on and so forth. Anyway, sounds like i have to read those articles.
You can't blame saturn for all of the above, the most it could have been linked to was your brother :whistling:

I notice T Uranus is fast approaching your MC

Uranus Transits the Tenth House
During this cycle, your career direction begins to change and your relationships with authority figures could sometimes be tense. You certainly don't like to follow orders these days! Do your best to avoid impulsive decision-making that is built upon your desire to be a free spirit. You may recognize talents that you never knew you had, and this can be a sudden, exciting discovery. You may also find that unexpected twists in your life story impact your career and reputation. You could become known for an unusual or unconventional approach to your profession.


http://cafeastrology.com/uranus_transits_houses.html
to give you some of my personal examples of major transits to MC. It does not just affect work/career...
T Saturn hit my MC when my first husband after divorce decided to disappear and avoid paying maintenance. This put me on the benefit system for 12months until I tracked him down. I ended in Court 4x to get an attachment on his earnings..... not a nice time

When T Pluto hit my MC my father died, same time T Pluto conj my mothers sun..

When T Uranus hit my MC my first marriage started breaking down, same time T Pluto opp Moon. On the Retrograde hit of Uranus I filed for divorce, first hit spoke to solicitor, but reconciled til next hit...

When T Neptune conj my MC age 16 left home, broke (dissolved) relationship with parents Principle is same your social standing career (if working) take nose dive, major alterations are afoot.
 
it's a while before T Pluto get to your natal jupiter, but when it does

Pluto Transits Conjunct Jupiter
~Your perspective on what you want from life, what you are willing to do to get it and the values that you want to express undergoes a change. If you have been working in a direction that is compatible with your standards and your philosophical or religious views, you are likely to be effective. This thus becomes a time when your past faith and hard work are rewarded, bolstering your confidence and helping you to make even bigger plans for your future - plans that are based on a realistic and solid foundation. http://cafeastrology.com/plutotransits.html
to read the full article click on link
 

byjove

Account Closed
Watch out for that transiting Uranus on MC. After watching arrive for some time and researching, I was wondering where's the drama. Well I did get to move abroad, and after 8 years of planning from a young age for a particular career, I've completely changed my mind because I'm shocked and disappointed with recent goings-on in the career. Alas, my long-planned career has just changed dramatically (after a couple of months I felt better, less insecure about the shock). TR Uranus is now about 3.5 degrees past my MC, now in early Aries where he'll stay for most of this year, no guys - early Aries?

Let the secure be unsecured...:w00t:
 

PensiveGemini

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You can't blame saturn for all of the above, the most it could have been linked to was your brother :whistling:

I notice T Uranus is fast approaching your MC

to give you some of my personal examples of major transits to MC. It does not just affect work/career...
T Saturn hit my MC when my first husband after divorce decided to disappear and avoid paying maintenance. This put me on the benefit system for 12months until I tracked him down. I ended in Court 4x to get an attachment on his earnings..... not a nice time

When T Pluto hit my MC my father died, same time T Pluto conj my mothers sun..

When T Uranus hit my MC my first marriage started breaking down, same time T Pluto opp Moon. On the Retrograde hit of Uranus I filed for divorce, first hit spoke to solicitor, but reconciled til next hit...

When T Neptune conj my MC age 16 left home, broke (dissolved) relationship with parents Principle is same your social standing career (if working) take nose dive, major alterations are afoot.

I'm so sorry to hear about all that went on :unsure: sounds so tough.

I have a question... why do you say that all that happened with my fam couldn't be Saturn? I'm curious... should I be paying more attention to Uranus? I don't like Uranus very much, although I acknowledge that all its changes did recreate me for the better... it was just so long and difficult to go through...

Uranus was squaring my natal venus at 25 gemini but now that it's in Aries things (seem to) have begun to look up, if only because its passed the threshold... also, my moon is 0 Aqua which is currently trine Uranus so I haven't felt the negative energy so much yet but I'm scared that it's going to catch me off guard... I've been more afraid to randomly lose my job than anything else and I am actively looking for a new job now with no success in the 6 weeks I've been looking... but I guess that's not as bad as some folks...

I'm literally making myself over to help my job search, dieting, changing my hair style, tweaking my confidence and personality... however, going on a diet is long overdue and has a lot of spiritual meaning/healing, as letting go of this weight has a lot to do with letting go of some 4th house clutter...
 
I'm so sorry to hear about all that went on :unsure: sounds so tough.

I have a question... why do you say that all that happened with my fam couldn't be Saturn? I'm curious... should I be paying more attention to Uranus? I don't like Uranus very much, although I acknowledge that all its changes did recreate me for the better... it was just so long and difficult to go through...

Right now Saturn is in Libra which is on my 4th house cusp but even before it entered my fourth house, as soon as Saturn went into Libra, my Step-father lost his job, my brother lost his scholarship, my mother was diagnosed with diabetes, I began having issues with my roommates and so on and so forth. Anyway, sounds like i have to read those articles.You can't blame saturn for all of the above, the most it could have been linked to was your brother
Saturn is transiting/going through your third house of siblings, plus saturn is karma, men, authority figures - do the research
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h3.html

house meanings
http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/houses.php
http://www.astrologyzine.com/what-is-a-house-in-astrology.shtml
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm
http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoundation/BookKarma&NewDirections.htm
http://www.gotohoroscope.com/houses-in-chart.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h1.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology)
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_house2_e.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houses.htm

Uranus was squaring my natal venus at 25 gemini but now that it's in Aries things (seem to) have begun to look up, if only because its passed the threshold... also, my moon is 0 Aqua which is currently trine Uranus so I haven't felt the negative energy so much yet but I'm scared that it's going to catch me off guard... I've been more afraid to randomly lose my job than anything else and I am actively looking for a new job now with no success in the 6 weeks I've been looking... but I guess that's not as bad as some folks...
T Uranus last made a square to venus/sun last year and is no longer affecting or afflicting venus. Uranus hard aspect to venus or moon is on my list of divorce aspects...

synastry and divorce
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13745&highlight=synastry+divorce
Synastry & divorce--- really great article, well worth reading-----
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=0OJgX88KKMsC&pg=PA46&lpg=PA46&dq=astrolog y+2nd+marriage&source=bl&ots=DoV__K_IQS&sig=dI1UAX 5oprrQLtfzYUrJ4_XzuKU&hl=en&ei=zBV0SsfnHYqhjAf5rN2 nBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6#v=onepa ge&q=&f=false

I'm literally making myself over to help my job search, dieting, changing my hair style, tweaking my confidence and personality... however, going on a diet is long overdue and has a lot of spiritual meaning/healing, as letting go of this weight has a lot to do with letting go of some 4th house clutter...
T Saturn has just gone overy your IC/home roots and this adds more duties, responsibilities connected to family members and home roots.

T Saturn will make it's first pass at squaring Asc last two weeks in November this year, which may well knock your confidence and cause you to withdraw. Middle May 2012 is the 'retrograde hit' which is used for timings of 'events' and finally a last hit. if you want to see/plot transits manually, use an online ephemeris like.
http://www.khaldea.com/kldaephem/2000/dec2010gmt.shtml
 
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