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JUPITERASC · Nov 25, 2014

NEWGRANGE is one of the best examples in Western Europe
of the type of monument known as a passage-grave or passage-tomb http://www.authenticireland.com/newgrange/ :smile:

'......According to the most reliable Carbon 14 dating techniques,
Newgrange was constructed around 3200 BC.
This means it is at least 600 years older than the Giza Pyramids in Egypt,
and
1,000 years older Stonehenge.

On the Winter Solstice,
the light of the rising sun enters the roof box of Newgrange and penetrates the passage,
shining onto the floor of the inner chamber.
The beam illuminates the inner chamber of Newgrange for just 17 minutes.....'

Zonark · Nov 25, 2014

Monk said:
Hi JupiterAsc,

I know you have a non-aggression policy, which i respect, however after 9/11, you know America had to do something....well Osama Bin Laden was in area we invaded, but he didn't have a foothold in Iraq, but posthumous we see that....wrong move invading Iraq, HE DOES NOW he is dead!

Isis direct genesis was the result of this, please note after invading Iraq Constitutional Referendum on 15th October 2005, on link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_constitution_ratification_vote,_2005

Midnight day marker was observed on 15th October 2005 in Baghdad with Constitution, Sirius was rising at midnight, astronomy diagram below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=4191&mode=view

I think the Navy Seal ROBERT ONEILL who has said he shot Osama Bin Laden is a complete idiot, seals are controlled by politics, they do what they are told to do, obviously he is a very brave man!

However, he may not worry about himself about a FATWA, but he must have a family, i wonder if he has ever heard of Salmon Rushdie, it is disputed that he actually did end Osama Bin Laden's life, but do you think he made his family a target by disclosure?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Verses_controversy

Perhaps JupiterAsc will give us some links to Navy seal Robert Oneill?

However JupiterAsc make sure your Identity is secure when writing, obviously my family ends with my mother who is 87 and myself who is badly disabled, i don't have extented family so can be brave!

Monk, please know the Islamic State is much older than Al Qaeda and helped create that organization. Their true roots run deep, one would have to be well versed in lineage to know but I personally suspect that those behind IS are of a bloodline which can without a doubt trace itself to Muhammad. I call the Islamic State by no other name, they are not ISIS to me, not ISIL, not any other of these names. The Mahdi will come from this lineage by Sunni understanding and Shi'ite say it cannot come from the flesh, it must come from the spirit. This is one of the most extreme reasons for division of the sects. What else could cause such a schism? Logical of course that the Ba'ath ideology is Sunni and by no coincidence takes the Royal Eagle for its symbol.

Shia is the little people's Islam. Sunni is monarchic.

I posted here in another thread for Astro Prophet, perhaps you will find this interesting too; http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=587437#post587437

The real ISIS, Mizz Cleopatra, the Empress, wife of the Green Man etc is more akin to the Israeli Secret Intelligence Service or Mossad. Hermetically speaking this is true, the twelve tribes being the mother of those who wander the center of the world. The Muhammadan lineage is of a different spirit, again hermetically speaking. This may also suggest something about which side of the most infamous schism is in the right and tells us what the inevitable destiny of the Islamic State must be, a word to the wise!

A light riddle maybe, but you will know what I mean!

Obfuscation of the esoteric, hiding the Great Work, is paramount for those who conduct it.

They will not give it to you so blatantly on the news 24/7! The agency which seeks to reassemble the 12 pieces of Osiris is not Islamic.

Humorous displays of this going on can be seen in Katy Perry's single Dark Horse and the animated cartoon Archer, where the spy agency Archer works for, previously named ISIS, is destroyed and must be renamed, this plot line occurring before "ISIS" became world famous, or world infamous rather.

Instead of implying, like most conspiracy theorists that these artists are somehow in bed with a grand design, I will say Hollywood is populated predominantly by the children of a certain tribe and their dreams and musings do tend to compose what their destiny calls them forth unto.

For your speculation :smile:

Zonark · Nov 25, 2014

For references confirming the earlier existence of ISIS please start here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jama'at_al-Tawhid_wal-Jihad

Rife with clues, a breadcrumb trail here!

"Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad was started in 1999 by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and a combination of Jordanian and other Islamist militants."

This is the most important part.

Muhammad wore a veil for most of his life, rarely showing his real face.

Why? What was he hiding? Or hiding from...?

Ah, I do know, Muhammad was wise to do this, I think I will take a small part from that wisdom and not give the answer outright.

I will give one clue. Who was the first prophet of monotheism? The answer is not the answer, just a clue.

Eagle eyes will know the truth!

Monk · Nov 25, 2014

Hi JupiterAsc,

Humour is good but we have to get Sirius now, you are under attack by Raha, i'm under attack by Zonark....humour has very little to do with this in the end!!!!

Zonark says no one else saw monotheism, i say it was there long before the prophet of Islam, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten

You are under attack by Raha, however Washington DC is a chololate factory for me regarding secret societies and C.I.A. the National Security Act of 1947 is also Genesis of C.I.A., during this time LANGLEY wasn't even thought of, it was 18th September 1947, and yes Truman was a 33 degree mason, so alignment was in Washington DC, so help and find date of the C.I.A. which is 18th September 1947!!!!

We see Hermetic alignments with link below:-

In Washington DC on 18th September 1947, Sun rises Alnilam Culminates, this is accurate astronomy, i have many more for Washington DC if others want to test! link below to graph:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3907&mode=view

I just know you will find good information....also as i have so much accurate astronomy about Washington DC it should hold Raha back from commenting, but i have an arsenal of charts if he wants to continue!

Please note i'm very careful what i say, no doubt JupiterAsc will find my comment in this thread where i say it is only hermetic muslims that use the criteria, mostly they are terrorists BUT NOT CONNECTED TO ISLAMIC BELIEFS THAT ARE USUAL....please find in this thread JupiterAsc.

JupiterAsc has opened a good firework display with his last thread section, i'm sorry but Harry Potter Stuff is on hold for a while, i know you wish me to get to synchronicity, but it must wait for a while.

It was Constantine the great that brought in 25th December for the birth of Christ, the reasons have already been stated, he was there regarding the Treaty of Nicaea in 325 AD!

The Eastern Church wasn't pleased, that includes Bethlehem, they celebrated the Wise Men coming to Bethlehem on 6th January, ever heart of the report by EGERIA???

The Jewish start of day for EPIPHANY is sunset in Bethlehem, WANNA SEE WHAT HAPPENED BY ASTRONOMY?????

Link below for 6th January also Epiphany but by Jewish tradition being sunset previous, no doubt JupiterAsc will tidy up, we help each other with information...i'm waiting for Raha to try it on!

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=4079&mode=view

No idea when i will get back to Harry Potter Ooppss!

Monk · Nov 25, 2014

Clue, EGERIA is mentioned below with Eastern Church regarding Epiphany:-

http://www.catholicireland.net/the-origins-and-spirituality-of-the-epiphany/

It doesn't matter that i've shown 0003 as date on link as fixed stars will show on exact date but by jewish tradition in Bethlehem by record of axial procession every year thus covers when we think Christ was born, it didn't move, so exact year doesn't matter regarding EPIPHANY!!!!!

Funny isn't it we know date of Cleopatra's death and Caesars, but don't have an accurate date for the birth or death of Christ for the year etc.????

Zonark · Nov 26, 2014

Monk said:
Hi JupiterAsc,

Humour is good but we have to get Sirius now, you are under attack by Raha, i'm under attack by Zonark....humour has very little to do with this in the end!!!!

Zonark says no one else saw monotheism, i say it was there long before the prophet of Islam, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten

You are under attack by Raha, however Washington DC is a chololate factory for me regarding secret societies and C.I.A. the National Security Act of 1947 is also Genesis of C.I.A., during this time LANGLEY wasn't even thought of, it was 18th September 1947, and yes Truman was a 33 degree mason, so alignment was in Washington DC, so help and find date of the C.I.A. which is 18th September 1947!!!!

We see Hermetic alignments with link below:-

In Washington DC on 18th September 1947, Sun rises Alnilam Culminates, this is accurate astronomy, i have many more for Washington DC if others want to test! link below to graph:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=3907&mode=view

I just know you will find good information....also as i have so much accurate astronomy about Washington DC it should hold Raha back from commenting, but i have an arsenal of charts if he wants to continue!

Please note i'm very careful what i say, no doubt JupiterAsc will find my comment in this thread where i say it is only hermetic muslims that use the criteria, mostly they are terrorists BUT NOT CONNECTED TO ISLAMIC BELIEFS THAT ARE USUAL....please find in this thread JupiterAsc.

JupiterAsc has opened a good firework display with his last thread section, i'm sorry but Harry Potter Stuff is on hold for a while, i know you wish me to get to synchronicity, but it must wait for a while.

It was Constantine the great that brought in 25th December for the birth of Christ, the reasons have already been stated, he was there regarding the Treaty of Nicaea in 325 AD!

The Eastern Church wasn't pleased, that includes Bethlehem, they celebrated the Wise Men coming to Bethlehem on 6th January, ever heart of the report by EGERIA???

The Jewish start of day for EPIPHANY is sunset in Bethlehem, WANNA SEE WHAT HAPPENED BY ASTRONOMY?????

Link below for 6th January also Epiphany but by Jewish tradition being sunset previous, no doubt JupiterAsc will tidy up, we help each other with information...i'm waiting for Raha to try it on!

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=4079&mode=view

No idea when i will get back to Harry Potter Ooppss!

Under attack? Monotheism didn't exist before Islam? You did not get any of my riddles?

I apologize for upsetting you. Do you work for the FBI in a timewarp back to 2001 perhaps? I am disappointed Monk.

Humor always has everything to do with it. Keep things light buddy, our own intellectual shortcomings can cause grievous damage.

JUPITERASC · Nov 26, 2014

Zonark said:
Under attack?

Monotheism didn't exist before Islam?

Monk clearly stated as follows :smile:

Monk said:
Zonark says no one else saw monotheism,

i say it was there long before the prophet of Islam, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten

Zonark · Nov 26, 2014

JUPITERASC said:
Monk clearly stated as follows

The "being attacked" part threw me off.

It still does.

Not sure how to respond to that.

Not attacking!

Oh and no, it is not Akhenaten. He merely remodeled an existing pantheon to have a capstone.

Monk · Nov 26, 2014

Hi Zonark,

I apologise, please note that JupiterAsc opened a large can of worms mentioning the Zeitgeist Movie so close to Christmas, i have no intention of spoiling Christmas for those of Christian beliefs.

I write on a number of forums and generally when Zeitgeist is mentioned hell breaks out, as it has a number of errors but some of it is true!

But with a great deal of effort on my part my threads can spin out of control by rogue posters, i misread your intentions, as i am introspective with all religions, thus give all religious belief a level playing field, wrongly i thought that as i was introspective regarding the Christian Religion, you were trying to promote the Islamic philosophy, obviously i am introspective of all religions!

The Romance of Cleopatra with Julius Caesar and Mark Antony is all political, however mystics have always been in awe of Egypt, so even if by the Sothic Cycle Sirius wasn't the start of calendars, those that come after with Sun Calendars thought it was!

Please note you are welcome and wanted in any discussion on this thread!

I can get a bit "SPIKEY" when Zeitgeist is mentioned, as there is truth but with some errors!!!

JUPITERASC · Nov 26, 2014

Monk said:
Hi Zonark,

I apologise, please note that JupiterAsc opened a large can of worms mentioning the Zeitgeist Movie so close to Christmas, i have no intention of spoiling Christmas for those of Christian beliefs.

I write on a number of forums and generally when Zeitgeist is mentioned hell breaks out, as it has a number of errors but some of it is true!

But with a great deal of effort on my part my threads can spin out of control by rogue posters, i misread your intentions, as i am introspective with all religions, thus give all religious belief a level playing field, wrongly i thought that as i was introspective regarding the Christian Religion, you were trying to promote the Islamic philosophy, obviously i am introspective of all religions!

Monk said:
The Romance of Cleopatra with Julius Caesar and Mark Antony is all political, however mystics have always been in awe of Egypt, so even if by the Sothic Cycle Sirius wasn't the start of calendars, those that come after with Sun Calendars thought it was!

Please note you are welcome and wanted in any discussion on this thread!

I can get a bit "SPIKEY" when Zeitgeist is mentioned, as there is truth but with some errors!!!

Humble apologies Monk, that can is now closed :smile:

Monk · Nov 26, 2014

So now we can get back to humour!

Hi JupiterAsc,

Ever thought of getting in a time machine with me to the period of the birth of Christ, and joining the Wise men on a camel train across the desert from Persia?

The thought of me on a camel being disabled is very funny, but i could have followed the Sirius alignment in Bethlehem by Sunset on Jewish start of day on 6th January within the criteria of when we think Christ was born it comes up every year on date in Bethlehem during that era.

I could have followed Sun setting as Sirius was rising on 5th January to Bethlehem, however i would have to know date that Jesus would be born before setting out on my journey!!!

Please note that if i thought that Jesus would be born on 31 December at sunset it would have led me to Thebes/Luxor, as i have already shown with start of Julian calendar with Thebes/Luxor!

I'm suspicious that before Treaty of Nicaea, that the Eastern Church thought that the Birth of Jesus, the Magi, the first Miracle in Cana and Baptism all have the same date being Epiphany 6th January, perhaps Hermetic influences muscled in to create date in early Christian philosophy??

Obviously you may have thoughts that all this was unconscious, thus synchronicity, you could have a point, if you want to write on the subject!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity

At some point we will debate this, but perhaps not yet!

JUPITERASC · Nov 26, 2014

Monk said:
But with a great deal of effort on my part my threads can spin out of control by rogue posters,
i misread your intentions, as i am introspective with all religions,
thus give all religious belief a level playing field,
wrongly i thought that as i was introspective regarding the Christian Religion,
you were trying to promote the Islamic philosophy,
obviously i am introspective of all religions!

You are wise Monk :smile:

".....We seek wisdom and compassion

because we recognize that it is these two attributes that will make our lives and the lives of others better.

Does it matter how we seek them?

Is one way or religion really better then others in seeking out and cultivating wisdom and compassion?

When we suffer do we seek out someone who has the same views as we do,

or just someone who holds out a wise and compassionate hand, heart and mind to us?....."

Monk · Nov 26, 2014

You have no need to apologise JupiterAsc for opening a big cans of worms, but we are nearly at Christmas, thus before we get back to the Harry Potter codes perhaps as i have always searched for my "GOD" we can do it in a mathematical way for all religions, even though some don't celebrate Christmas!

My way is only mathematical, so doesn't have a set of rules like many religious scripts....do we need them, we know right from wrong....in history those at the top create empires by sucking other countries dry of resources because they are weak!

So now in this Christmas period we can debate the most stunning equation in history, close to your heart and mine that isn't involved in any religious interpretation, PHI AND GOLDEN RATIO, i'll begin tomorrow!

JUPITERASC · Nov 27, 2014

Monk said:
You have no need to apologise JupiterAsc for opening a big cans of worms, but we are nearly at Christmas, thus before we get back to the Harry Potter codes perhaps as i have always searched for my "GOD" we can do it in a mathematical way for all religions, even though some don't celebrate Christmas!

My way is only mathematical, so doesn't have a set of rules like many religious scripts....do we need them, we know right from wrong....in history those at the top create empires by sucking other countries dry of resources because they are weak!

So now in this Christmas period we can debate the most stunning equation in history, close to your heart and mine that isn't involved in any religious interpretation, PHI AND GOLDEN RATIO, i'll begin tomorrow!

PHI and the GOLDEN RATIO then for us Monk

by the way
noticed an interesting article

'You Can't Understand ISIS
If You Don't Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia' http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-wahhabism-saudi-arabia_b_5717157.html

Monk · Nov 27, 2014

Hi JupiterAsc,

I will read your article soon and reply!

A lot of Metaphysical researchers say that when you completely understand Phi you are ready for the nut house, i have researched it for most of my life so probably need a nice quiet padded cell ha ha!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNcRNQIaJEQ

So what is it?

It can be a Golden Rectangle, it can be a Golden Spiral, it can be a Pentagram, it can be a decagon, it can be a Dekagram, it can be a Dodecahedron, it can be the 5th Platonic Solid, Aether or Fifth Element, it can be the Mandelbrot Set or Thumbprint of God, it is a Fractal, it can be The Fibonacci Sequence, and the essence of God!

It has endless equations, like Phi =5^.5*.5+.5, or 1.618 or 0+1=1, 1+1=2, 1+2=3, 2+3=5, and a few more endless equations on link below:-

http://www.goldennumber.net/five-phi/

You may like the Anagrams below ha ha:-

http://www.goldennumber.net/poetry/

Is it any wonder my brain is falling out of my ear!

But before you lose interest with a complex fractal please read below:-

http://phys.org/news/2014-11-golden-ratio-unity-science.html
Or below:-

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100107143909.htm

Obviously my way of explaining will be a little long winded as it is very complex.

To show i'm ready for the nut house, i've left one of my symbolic drawings of PHI below ha ha:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=4649&mode=view

I'll be back when i've had my injection LOL!

Monk · Nov 27, 2014

Hi Jupiterasc,

I have read the report, very interesting!

Isis can come out in interesting places, and as Sirius is the Isis star, perhaps we should look at the ARAB LEAGUE.

It was formed on 22nd March 1945 in Cairo, they had to use the Vernal Equinox didn't they?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League

Midnight day marker was chosen by hermetic philosophers, for at that time, Sirius the Isis star was setting along the horizon in the West, graph below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=6419&mode=view

I'll be back hopefully today!

Monk · Nov 27, 2014

I'm not going to bother with the equations yet, if ever, it will make the whole thing harder to understand....it is better by visual math, or sacred geometry, obviously astrology was joined to sacred geometry in ancient history, it is where angles and aspects come from!

What will help will be to try to join the shapes up that form Phi, there are so many of them, however the Pentagon, Pentacle, are related, and the Decagon and Dekagram are just two opposite Pentagons in a circle, surprisingly when all ten points are joined up it forms a 3D Dodecahedron in the centre, so now you understand how these shapes are related by diagram below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=4648&mode=view

Jup, Plato didn't invent the Platonic Solids, they have been found in Scotland long before him, however what did he have to say about the Dodecahedron?

Monk · Nov 27, 2014

An example of two Grand Quintiles being opposite or the Decagon regarding DNA is on link below:-

http://www.beautyanalysis.com/research/our-research/beauty-code/

Lots to think about JupiterAsc, and i haven't even started yet, but i am a sandwich short of a picnic ha ha!

JUPITERASC · Nov 28, 2014

Monk said:
An example of two Grand Quintiles being opposite or the Decagon regarding DNA is on link below:-

http://www.beautyanalysis.com/research/our-research/beauty-code/

Lots to think about JupiterAsc, and i haven't even started yet,
but i am a sandwich short of a picnic ha ha!

sandwich = Schwandi = good location for a picnic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwändi,_Glarus

fibonacci = fabion CCI

fabion relates to Roman general Quintus Fabius Maximus.
and
ubiquitous Fabian Society
committed to gradual rather than revolutionary means for spreading socialist principles.

CCI = Canine Companions for Independence = Sirius

as we divide the sandwiches Monk we find the golden ratio in the following continued fraction:

$confrac.gif$

JUPITERASC · Nov 28, 2014

Monk said:
I'm not going to bother with the equations yet, if ever, it will make the whole thing harder to understand....it is better by visual math, or sacred geometry, obviously astrology was joined to sacred geometry in ancient history, it is where angles and aspects come from!

What will help will be to try to join the shapes up that form Phi, there are so many of them, however the Pentagon, Pentacle, are related, and the Decagon and Dekagram are just two opposite Pentagons in a circle, surprisingly when all ten points are joined up it forms a 3D Dodecahedron in the centre, so now you understand how these shapes are related by diagram below:-

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/file.php?id=4648&mode=view

Jup, Plato didn't invent the Platonic Solids,
they have been found in Scotland long before him,
however what did he have to say about the Dodecahedron?

'.....One morning the young Werner Heisenberg discovered reading Plato's Timaeus
a description of the world with regular polyhedra.
Heisenberg could not understand why Plato being so rational started to use speculative ideas
But finally he was fascinated by the idea that it could be possible to describe the Universe mathematically.
He could not understand why Plato used the Polyhedra as the basic units in his model,
but Heisenberg considered that in order to understand the world
it is necessary to understand the Physics of the atoms.....'

Plato's Mathematical Model of the Universe - Space and Time http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/PlatoSolid.htm

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