Can I temporarily be a gay escort?

noraleader

Banned
i don't want to declaim your personal values, but as one poster touched upon,

can one "temporarily" be anything? if we consider teilhard de chardin's hypothesis for eschatology, the final universal solution contains and includes all precedent moments. the experience, once committed, exists forever thereafter.

"cultivation requires distance from corruption" - if you cherish somethnig, keep it free from impurity. hetero or homosexual, sex for money is not sex by free will. if it was what you really wanted, they wouldn't have to pay you to do it.


you also mentioned waiting for an inheritance. honestly i don't know your circumstances, but going through life without the potential to earn money independently of dispensation can be problematic. especially as you get older, employers are reluctant to consider someone who has no work history, and though it can be very easy to find employment when young, suddenly you may find it extremely difficult to do. cultivate some form of social security for yourself, before you are older.

personally, if you need money for a short time, i think it would be much less scarring to spend a few months sweeping or digging or delivering or making food or taking phone calls. orgasm isn't just a physical thing.. someone could use you for magic, then you'd have all kinds of problems you might be dealing with for years. when you get more psychic as you get older, they might think of you with every orgasm, which could be extremely disruptive to your daily life.. don't get sucked into prostitution because culture defines sex as "pleasurable.." when we are young, movies help us think that hedonism is a small class of elite activities, when we are old, we realise that the things we thought we wanted aren't the only things in life.. sweeping up the leaves is good exercise and gives your mind time to think, compose music or ideas for creative projects. while your hands are busy doing simple menial tasks, your mind is free. but... you can put down a rake or a broom.. people get upset when you try to put down their er*ction before *they're* through with *you*

my suggestion, read the tao te ching linked in my sig :) it's easy in youth to discard your later years, until they catch up with you.. it's far wiser to plan that one day, you will be older.. make sure the way you get there doesn't leave you with pain or injury.
 
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markus0509

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i don't want to declaim your personal values, but as one poster touched upon,

can one "temporarily" be anything? if we consider teilhard de chardin's hypothesis for eschatology, the final universal solution contains and includes all precedent moments. the experience, once committed, exists forever thereafter.

"cultivation requires distance from corruption" - if you cherish somethnig, keep it free from impurity. hetero or homosexual, sex for money is not sex by free will. if it was what you really wanted, they wouldn't have to pay you to do it.


you also mentioned waiting for an inheritance. honestly i don't know your circumstances, but going through life without the potential to earn money independently of dispensation can be problematic. especially as you get older, employers are reluctant to consider someone who has no work history, and though it can be very easy to find employment when young, suddenly you may find it extremely difficult to do. cultivate some form of social security for yourself, before you are older.

personally, if you need money for a short time, i think it would be much less scarring to spend a few months sweeping or digging or delivering or making food or taking phone calls. orgasm isn't just a physical thing.. someone could use you for magic, then you'd have all kinds of problems you might be dealing with for years. when you get more psychic as you get older, they might think of you with every orgasm, which could be extremely disruptive to your daily life.. don't get sucked into prostitution because culture defines sex as "pleasurable.." when we are young, movies help us think that hedonism is a small class of elite activities, when we are old, we realise that the things we thought we wanted aren't the only things in life.. sweeping up the leaves is good exercise and gives your mind time to think, compose music or ideas for creative projects. while your hands are busy doing simple menial tasks, your mind is free. but... you can put down a rake or a broom.. people get upset when you try to put down their er*ction before *they're* through with *you*

my suggestion, read the tao te ching linked in my sig :) it's easy in youth to discard your later years, until they catch up with you.. it's far wiser to plan that one day, you will be older.. make sure the way you get there doesn't leave you with pain or injury.

I am very thankful for your heartfelt reply. I ask temporarily as I do not really think this would really be happening. My circumstances can be lifted whenever I ask for. I know that might not be pleasant to say about waiting for inheritance but indeed I also stretch until the very end before asking for help. The inheritance thing is actually linked to a mother issue, I treat it as NOT a monetary thing but some psychological healing. I know this sounds weird. I feel stucked in the state that I am living in, thats why I gonna move to the south (now I am in east coast), and start fresh. I am quite sure that I will restart again after the move. Best wishes for u too.
 

SkuttleStar

Well-known member
Hey Honey,

I could read your chart, but this is one of those 'oh man I know exactly what I wanna say to you' cuz you're like a younger, gay me.

I have nothing against prostitution, a lot of my friends are. When I was in my early 20's I worked **** jobs where costumers would approach me and ask to pay me for sex. I was incredibly broke, constantly hungry, always cold.

I thought for awhile: "**** I feel so exploited at work, I come home to the place i am barely keeping feeling so objectified- why don't I just ******* do it for a living, atleast then I'd ******* eat!" and a lot of my friends who are prostitutes very much encouraged this- because yes, I would eat better, I'd be warm. I wouldn't constantly be on the brink of homelessness.

I am SO LUCKY for my friends. They showed me exactly what I would be getting into- without blinders, without pussy footing around it- cuz it had to do with my safety.

I understood why there are pimps-- for the ladies it's protection. My good friend- who is like queen-bee status. She's gorgeous- and her reign is supreme. As another woman in this world who she was gonna take under her wing-- that all that knowledge she gained was earned after witnessing some awful, awful, awful atrocities. Losing people she loved, getting hurt.

She warned me of many things, some things well-beyond control-- for example if you're near an international port the reality that you- as an American or UK citizen or whatever-- if you do this kind of work, you can very easily be sold into sex slavery.

There is an unfortunately long list my friend can number off of women she knew who are simply 'missing' and she knows for sure a few of them are certainly in the sex trade over seas now.

To go out this without a pimp or someone who knows the field- is twice as dangerous- and literally impossible to survive on your own unless you've built a life on it and have lived it for many, many years.

My friend didn't go to a good school, she didnt graduate high school, she couldn't get a job. If you went to a school that put you in a position to even cook fries- that's a serious blessing to have in life. Don't turn your nose up so fast.

Getting your life together is honestly REALLY REALLY ******* hard. We ALL go through this.

Also I didn't do it, and I dealt with the bleh of life-- and now things aren't that bad at all. i'm really thankful i didn't add all that to my memory bank.

If you're hell-bent on doing this- try stripping- you know go to a place where people at least can't kidnap you. Find clients that way- for the love of god dont post up on craigslist or something. Find your clients in real life. Ideally in a place where the client was at least ID'd before they even see you.
 
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Kitchy

Banned
There's a funny old question about sex -

"It's okay to give it away for free but no to charge for it?"

From what I've seen in Markus chart - he has the capability to run a business of profit in the sex industry. The world's oldest profession.

Legality, Location and operating from a standpoint of Strictly Business will suit him well, if he does it correctly and in the correct location.

Emotion should be never part of a business transaction, nor should the "I gave you this and I feel so used" sentiment.

The difference I see you offering Skuttle, is the Drug Ho' vs. the Businessman.

I hope that makes sense.
 

SkuttleStar

Well-known member
The difference I see you offering Skuttle, is the Drug Ho' vs. the Businessman.

I hope that makes sense.

The businessman still needs experience to know how to do business right, regardless of planet blessings.

My wing mama is not a Drug Ho' and honestly that's so insulting because she is actually in college now, and she's VERY smart, and she's never been addicted to crack nor meth. Just like OP, she's just trying to make it. Just like me, she's just trying to make it.

There is always a learning curve in any business. But because this business is illegal, you can get killed and kidnapped much easier. It's called a black-market. You can't call the cops if you're hurt doing something illegal. It's just the basic conditions any black-market. That's why people with guns point them at the heads of pot-farmers, and it's not like the farmers can call the cops. They take the crop and sell it, the farmers lose a house payment.

And really, it only takes one time, alone in a hotel room-- to ruin your life. That learning curve is intense.
 

Kitchy

Banned
Skuttle -

Did you take that personally? Wowza.

This is about Markus', his original post, the astrological responses that by and far point to an affirmative answer to his desire to use his skills and chart to his economic advantage in the sex industry. We are not talking about you or your pimp or whatever you want to call her or him.

Where's your astrology in this, by the way? :unsure:
 

SkuttleStar

Well-known member
Thanks for actually reading it, then you'd know.

Why? Because regardless of your chart, a particular manifestation may not be a wise one to encourage. Perhaps his chart points to a future where he's paid to spank people at bar- covered in leather. This kind of thing manifests into a huge realm of possibilities.

Therefore, I think my time is far more valuable devluging what I know about this idea- because i know it to be a VERY dangerous path.

Yes I decided to take offense- because that 'drug ho'' mentality is honestly the same mentality that some men have-- that dehumanizing mentality-- that rationalize hurting these human beings who are honestly just broke and trying to eat. They hurt them and think no one will care, cuz she's a drug ho'. Dozens of layers of 'less than' stigma, as then re-affirmed with comparing it to someone who does the same thing, but differently- and then you disguise it in the stigma to create an assumption that being a businessman requires a different skill-set than his 'drug ho' counterpart- totally missing, even undermining the point that the risks and conditions of the job are equally real.

I have all the time in the world to be offended at ignorance of that notion. I'm not mad at you, but you really should realize that people don't just wake up and be like "I should start selling myself on the street" no- it's been romanticized by our media as being some 'in control, sexually free time' but it's really not. It's sooo not.

It's honestly all too real.
 
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noraleader

Banned
The world's oldest profession.

of course, this implies there was a time before professions.. :cool:


Emotion should be never part of a business transaction

there may be things that business transactions ought not be a part of as well.


i've been through a lot myself, degraded and libeled in unmentionable ways. one commodity i have maintained is that one can look me in the eye or listen to my voice and see/hear honesty and integrity.

if i'd compromised that within the course of my trials, it would not be there to pull me out of some scrapes. whatever society throws at me - i will not lower myself to its level!

skuttlestar is right, if men act like hounds subservient to whatever desire is the order of the day, then what value are any of them? like sand on the beaches. if someone else forces their value on your life, they have taken the life from you. clinging to that life is clinging to a corpse. if the corpse means more than the spirit to you.. by all means, suffer the degradation.....

how do you say.. time wounds all heels, time weals all hounds. (other people only get one of these.. here, i present both.. because, i empower my mind, not the corpse, i am able to do that. what are the dogs able to do except salivate on command...)

but, i think this matter is concluded.


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and i have a long list of things that other people missed... like putting the heart before the course... did you know that it was i who first wrote "weed em and reap?" "every crook and nanny?" "deeper by the chosen?" "stick a dork in me i'm fun?" aah.. only me... the one who cherishes my mind........... sometimes people borrow or steal part of my brilliance for material profit, but they never care for the true gift i offer.... all the world and more... just don't be a **** they take the gem and **** all over it.
 
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theV

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The Sun is in opposition with Pluto/Juno/Lilith/Vertex, strong sexual combination. All of these three are very sexual, but the thing is sex is not emotional/or intimate. It is purely to please intense emotions, it could lead to domination/and rough sex.
 

markus0509

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The Sun is in opposition with Pluto/Juno/Lilith/Vertex, strong sexual combination. All of these three are very sexual, but the thing is sex is not emotional/or intimate. It is purely to please intense emotions, it could lead to domination/and rough sex.

To some extend it is quite true but do u mean that my sex life is not emotional or intimate? Sorry for my English, I often need more explanation in order to get the exact meaning......:pouty:
 
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