Trump Supporters Peacefully Demonstrate at the U.S. Capitol

They did NO damage to the building. Except the Antifa thugs who smashed some windows. Many of them walked right through the front door escorted by the police. They took selfies sitting at Pelosi's desk!
They smoked weed, went to the washroom, walked around putting MAGA hats on the statues but they didn't destroy them.

The REAL crime. They are Trump Patriots protesting. That's not allowed....& while they shouldn't have entered the building, it doesn't even begin to compare with the anarchy destruction, burning, rioting, killing by the Left mobs. They are still called 'mostly peaceful protests' by the fake news & the corrupt Dems....even as they smash & destroy & attack in Portland TODAY!


Police investigate new shootings as uptick in gun violence continues in Portland

Dirius said:

I don't think the people who saw their homes destroyed, and their businesses looted and ransacked would agree with you. I think people's homes, where they sleep, where they make a living to feed their families, is what should be treated as sacred - not some government building.

I honestly find it funny that someone would buy into the lie that somehow, a government building has more value than someone's home. If you were not outraged by the antifa/BLM destruction, you can't expect us to believe your "fake" outrage at this.

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Inquisag said:

It's not just some government building. You don't seem to understand that. The building makes an individual's home possible. A republic makes the enjoyment of life in the Republic possible. The Republic made the internet possible.

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Individuals make the Republic possible. You are putting your government, above your own life, and the lives of your fellow citizens.

BLM destroyed the lives of thousands of people, devastated entire cities. Democrats and most of their supporters didn't care. A few people entered the capitol building, and stole speaker Pelocy's laptop. Democrats are outraged.

Have you considered the reason why they are so enraged, is because this is the first time an actual protest affected politicians only?

Establishment Hypocrisy over Antifa-BLM Riots

https://youtu.be/m6R2eqofe38




Antifa doesn't exist according to the Dems, it's just an idea.

Except they attacked federal court buildings, threw molotov cocktails at police, burned down entire blocks of buildings, attacked an ICE facility, burned it to the ground & killed law enforcement officers incl 2 retired police officers. BLM rioted & looted all summer & the police were ordered to 'stand down'. Nobody was shot at but Trump Patriot Ashli had to be gunned down as she tried to enter through a broken window with no weapons.

Dirius said:

Individuals make the Republic possible. You are putting your government, above your own life, and the lives of your fellow citizens.

BLM destroyed the lives of thousands of people, devastated entire cities. Democrats and most of their supporters didn't care. A few people entered the capitol building, and stole speaker Pelocy's laptop. Democrats are outraged.

Have you considered the reason why they are so enraged, is because this is the first time an actual protest affected politicians only?

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Your interpretation is interesting, so let me try to be more clear. The republic exists for the benefit of it's peoples. People are more likely to prosper if the Republic prospers. It is the center which everything branches out from. The branches can be nipped in places, but the center can replace it and grow more branches. It is very important that it be protected for when it dies, all the branches die. I would give my life to protect the center, so all the other branches can continue to exist and other branches can grow.

Black Lives Matter was not the cause of the riots that happened last year. Your accusations are groundless. Your characterization of Wednesday's events make light of Wednesday's events. Why bother? We all saw the footage. From what I have seen, to most Americans, support of Wednesday's activity is advocacy of insurrection and treason.

Inquisag said:

Your interpretation is interesting, so let me try to be more clear. The republic exists for the benefit of it's peoples. People are more likely to prosper if the Republic prospers. It is the center which everything branches out from. The branches can be nipped in places, but the center can replace it and grow more branches. It is very important that it be protected for when it dies, all the branches die. I would give my life to protect the center, so all the other branches can continue to exist and other branches can grow.

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That is a very poetic statement, but basically, you are willing to throw away your life and the lives of others to protect a system, which half of your country believes is corrupted. And your statement would be correct if people were prospering. They are not. Thanks to the very system itself - which allowed for the destruction and looting of citizens homes.

If politicians are willing to let riots destroy the property of normal citizens, then you don't really have a "republic" anymore. You just have a corrupted system.

What are the 3 basic human rights? life, liberty and property. All three have been infringed by the democrat party, before and after the BLM/Antifa riots.

blackbery said:

Establishment Hypocrisy over Antifa-BLM Riots

https://youtu.be/m6R2eqofe38




Antifa doesn't exist according to the Dems, it's just an idea.

Except they attacked federal court buildings, threw molotov cocktails at police, burned down entire blocks of buildings, attacked an ICE facility, burned it to the ground & killed law enforcement officers incl 2 retired police officers. BLM rioted & looted all summer & the police were ordered to 'stand down'. Nobody was shot at but Trump Patriot Ashli had to be gunned down as she tried to enter through a broken window with no weapons.

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I suppose anyone can say they represent an organization when they don't just like anyone can say they represent an organization and they do. If you get caught and connections are proven, then that is proof. I recall seeing proof given of Right Wing groups causing mayhem after George Floyd's killing. Before their connections were proven, people claimed they were associated with Antifa and Black Lives Matter.

Your statement about Antifa and democrats is incorrect by way of generalization.

Dirius said:

That is a very poetic statement, but basically, you are willing to throw away your life and the lives of others to protect a system, which half of your country believes is corrupted. And your statement would be correct if people were prospering. They are not. Thanks to the very system itself - which allowed for the destruction and looting of citizens homes.

If politicians are willing to let riots destroy the property of normal citizens, then you don't really have a "republic" anymore. You just have a corrupted system.

What are the 3 basic human rights? life, liberty and property. All three have been infringed by the democrat party, before and after the BLM/Antifa riots.

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Um,...people are prospering (my statement was just as general as yours). By system do you mean the last 4 years? We were doing better before we had a President who said at least 100,000 people has to die before he would take a virus seriously. This in comparison to Viet Nam who took the virus seriously from the beginning and worked hard to lose no one to the virus.

Riots that would not have occurred without incendiary words from the President.

For U.S. citizens the 3 rights are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness - The Declaration of Independence 1776.

Our Republic still stands and millions of American will do their best to make sure it continues well into the future.

Inquisag said:

Um,...people are prospering (my statement was just as general as yours). By system do you mean the last 4 years? We were doing better before we had a President who said at least 100,000 people has to die before he would take a virus seriously. This in comparison to Viet Nam who took the virus seriously from the beginning and worked hard to lose no one to the virus.

Riots that would not have occurred without incendiary words from the President.

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I mean this last year, when the restriction of liberty destroyed the lives of millions of individuals. When politicians allowed the life and property of thousands of people to be ransacked, and then downplayed the issue for political gain.

You don't think that loosing your place of business has an effect in your life? Do you think BLM riots were "peaceful"?

Inquisag said:

For U.S. citizens the 3 rights are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness - The Declaration of Independence 1776.

Our Republic still stands and millions of American will do their best to make sure it continues well into the future.

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The idea of natural rights (life, liberty and property) come from John Locke -who had a clear influence over Thomas Jefferson, who drafted the declaration. "Pursuit of Happiness" does look much better though, but it is established that property rights exist within that category.

Property rights are protected under your constitution are they not? So why did democrats downplayed the destruction of property? Isn't their role to do so under a Republic?

I'm sure millions will do their best - I have no doubts about that.

Sati said:

Amen to that. Just looking at the figures where Biden won counties at 300%. That's literally 3 times the people in the county. They went way overboard in the fake voting. Not to mention catching the voting dump on camera after hours with ballots that only had Biden's name colored in and nothing else filled in. The fraud automatically dismisses Biden from the running.
Don't let these other people get you down. They believe whatever they're told by sources who have the same script and don't question it. Trump shut down the boarders and were sending self employed foreigners home to stop the human trafficking that none of our news mentions has been prevalent forever. They went with racism as the reason for the masses. New reform is happening where places, including my work, has to be on the lookout for human trafficking. Over half a million children go missing in this country every year and nobody says a thing. So many people are going to jail. This trafficking goes all the way up to the highest positions. FCC sent out an alert to all broadcasters reminding them that they MUST comply with the Emergency Alert System. The next week and a half will be interesting.

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So with all of the lawsuits filed by Trump supporters contesting election results, why were all of them thrown out by judges?? This is something like 50-60 lawsuits and 90 judges, as higher courts typically have several members (like 9 on the Supreme Court.)

You need to be more insightful about what you are reading-- or soaking up from YouTube.

CapAquaPis said:

A few Trump supporters trespassed into the US capital and the FBI managed to find the guy who sat on House speaker Nancy Pelosi's desk, some of them are armed and had grenades, knives or batons, and I saw a few confederate flags fly in the crowd along with Neo-Nazis and white nationalists were involved in the riot. I'm sure the majority of them were peaceful and law-abiding, but what I saw on Wed. is shocking and unacceptable regardless of the political positions and beliefs the protesters were. This is unprecedented, we had the 1812 war, the US civil war, the Great Depression and the radical 1960s when there were mobs took over city halls, county halls, state capitals and colleges/universities, but I never thought the heavily secure and patrolled US capitol will have a raid like this.

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I agree. The people who trashed Capitol property, breaking windows and ransacking offices, were criminals.

The people flying Confederate flags in the Capitol hate the United States.

The Neo-Nazis in the crowd wore shirts with slogans like "Six Million Wasn't Enough" and "Camp Auschwitz."

Our founding fathers, having grown up under the British monarchy, wanted nothing to do with cult leaders-- or this kind of insanity.

The Trumpers refuse to acknowledge:

1. Multiple states went through recounts and hand-counts prior to certification. Each state has its own procedures. You can look them up here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/election-laws-and-procedures-overview.aspx

2. Multiple states with contested results had the same voting procedures in place as states that went for Trump. Yet none of the Trumpers demanded recounts in Montana, &c.

3. Some states alleged to have flawed voting procedures followed procedures previously voted into law by Republican legislators. None of them introduced bills prior to Election Day to change the procedures.

4. Each state has its own laws for recounts and audits. It would take an act of states' legislatures to change those rules to suit the Trumpers.
https://ballotpedia.org/Election_recount_laws_and_procedures_in_the_50_states,_2020 (And Dirius, I drew this to your attention previously. So no pass.)

5. None of the many court cases filed against state election officials and procedures succeeded. Primarily due to lack of evidence or lack of standing (e. g. meddling.) Judges repeatedly rebuked the Republican legal teams for their lack of hard evidence supporting their allegations.

6. The same disputed ballots for president included successful elections for many down-ballot Republicans. One cannot redo or audit just the presidential portion of the ballot without calling their election victories into question.

7. In the Wisconsin recount, Biden actually picked up more votes than he was previously allocated.

And no--there is no credible evidence of Antifa involvement in Wednesday's coup attempt.

Blackbery, you're basically arguing that two wrongs make a right.

I. e., any law-breaking committed by Trumpers is fully justified by your allegations about Antifa.

I don't think so.

Here are some general overview summaries of the 60 or so failed lawsuits filed on behalf of Donald Trump's re-election bid. I did hear that maybe one of them succeeded but it was too minor to affect any election outcome.

Note that many judges are themselves Republicans and some were appointed by Donald Trump (like 3 on the Supreme Court.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-..._the_2020_United_States_presidential_election

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-lawsuits-election-results-2020-11

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/n...efforts-overturn-election-numbers/4130307001/

I especially recommend the USA Today analysis.

waybread said:

Blackbery, you're basically arguing that two wrongs make a right.

I. e., any law-breaking committed by Trumpers is fully justified by your allegations about Antifa.

I don't think so.

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Waybread, any predictions for Inauguration Day?

There are some ultra-Righties calling for a FULL scale insurrection!

And, the exact Mars/Uran conj on January 20th, squaring the Jupiter/Saturn conj in Aqua.

There are still Trump supporters claiming something or other is going to happen to prevent Biden from being Inaugurated.

It's like a fuse is going to blow when it actually happens.

Dirius said:

I mean this last year, when the restriction of liberty destroyed the lives of millions of individuals. When politicians allowed the life and property of thousands of people to be ransacked, and then downplayed the issue for political gain.

You don't think that loosing your place of business has an effect in your life? Do you think BLM riots were "peaceful"?


The idea of natural rights (life, liberty and property) come from John Locke -who had a clear influence over Thomas Jefferson, who drafted the declaration. "Pursuit of Happiness" does look much better though, but it is established that property rights exist within that category.

Property rights are protected under your constitution are they not? So why did democrats downplayed the destruction of property? Isn't their role to do so under a Republic?

I'm sure millions will do their best - I have no doubts about that.

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Restriction of liberty. Again we are back to President Trump. Had he behaved in a rational manner, the restrictions may not have happened. His behavior during that period was grounds for a 2nd impeachment. What he did and didn't do was unreal.

Black Lives Matter. Marches organized by Black Lives Matter were generally peaceful. I know of one riot that took place later in the summer (not sure about the time) were a member of the organization sanctioned looting. There was no word from the organization denouncing the member. Afterwards, the organization lost substantial support from citizens.

Destruction of property. From what I witnessed, Democrats, in general, did not downplay the destruction of property.

Some of the insurrectionists, and rioters are now apologizing (mea-culpa)


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-begs-forgiveness/ar-BB1czXtE?ocid=uxbndlbing


The one dangling from the balconey, and the one who had the cuff ties will still have a lot to answer for in court.


IF Trump is successfully impeached, for being the supreme instigator of this riot - he will lose his Govt. taxpayer paid for pension and office perks, etc. says Senator Ted Lieu (D) which can add up to millions and of course be banned from running again



https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com...-for-trump-giulianis-arrest-for-insurrection/

David, this is a whole signs chart for inauguration day.

With all of those squares, plus Mars-Uranus, I think there will be a lot more civil unrest. But with such a strong Saturn in the 10th house, I think the government will be able to maintain more law and order than they did on January 6.

Poor Trump.

Now the PGA has announced it is cancelling its planned 2022 championship game in Trump's golf course in Bedminster, NJ.

You'd think the PGA could overlook a little thing like Trump's trying to stage a coup and incite a riot.

waybread said:

Poor Trump.

Now the PGA has announced it is cancelling its planned 2022 championship game in Trump's golf course in Bedminster, NJ.

You'd think the PGA could overlook a little thing like Trump's trying to stage a coup and incite a riot.

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How about, instead of a PGA tournament, Trump could schedule his own PNG* tournament?

[*Persona Non Grata]

Dirius said:

I mean this last year, when the restriction of liberty destroyed the lives of millions of individuals. When politicians allowed the life and property of thousands of people to be ransacked, and then downplayed the issue for political gain.

You don't think that loosing your place of business has an effect in your life? Do you think BLM riots were "peaceful"?


The idea of natural rights (life, liberty and property) come from John Locke -who had a clear influence over Thomas Jefferson, who drafted the declaration. "Pursuit of Happiness" does look much better though, but it is established that property rights exist within that category.

Property rights are protected under your constitution are they not? So why did democrats downplayed the destruction of property? Isn't their role to do so under a Republic?

I'm sure millions will do their best - I have no doubts about that.

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Live: Washington State Capitol With National Guard Standing Bye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhhLRSUCcVc




THE E.O IS STILL ON THE DESK!

YOU ARE GOING TO SEE SOME ACTIONS SOON!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5okzU0yvxv0







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