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JUPITERASC

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Ouranos, the Greek god of the Heavens, was known as "Caelus" to the Romans. Just as Zeus was known as "Jupiter".
You think that JA is harsh,


and that AJ is kind?
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1025891&postcount=48

What was Disney thinking? :unsure:

Anyway, there's an ancient religious connection involved with a planet named P!uto and the Sign called Scorpio.

The ancient Babylonians pictured the constellation of the Scorpion with ancient Egypt in mind.

And, the most important god of Egypt was Osirus, transformed by the Hellenists
into their god of the Underworld, Pluto.
The Romans originally had their own name for the god, "Dis Pater", but

later changed it to Pluto. Pluto and Apollo are the only Greek deities

I know of with the same exact name in Latin as in the Greek.

Hi david starling,

What kind of nonsense is that?

First, it's not "Dis Pater" it's Dyas-piter. There's a difference.

Dyas-piter is Hindi, as in Indian.


Familiar with the Hungarian town Gyula? Google.

Gyula and Dyas have something in common linguistically.

The "gy" in Magyar and the "dy" in Hindi

are the same sound phonetically as "dj" in Slavic languages.

The "dj" and "gy" and "dy" sounds are the same phonetically

as the pronunciation of "j" in English "judges" or "Jupiter."

Get it?

Dyas-piter equates to Jupiter.

The word "Dis Pater" is a very good example

of a poor and disturbingly bad transliteration

(which is why there is more than 100 spellings
of the name of the former Libyan head-of-State Ghaddafi

by stupid idiotic journalists who are clueless about transliteration).

Roman Jupiter equates to Greek Zeus.

You're pronouncing "Zeus" wrong.

The "z" in ancient Greek

is equivalent to "dj" in Slavic and "gy" in Magyar and "dy" in Hindi
and the "j" in English "judges" and "Jupiter."
Thus....the correct English transliteration of the ancient Greek Zeus is Jeus.

It's called a "fricative shift." See Grimm's Law.

To which "Babylonians" are you referring?

There are three totally different "Babylonians."

The, um, "Babylonians" who gained power circa 1830 BCE were Amorites.

I assure you they knew nothing of Magan (Egypt).

About 3 centuries later circa 1530 BCE they were overthrown
by the Cassites (the biblical "Kush" in Genesis).

Some "Babylonians" regained control circa 1125 BCE.

They weren't exactly Amorites. Well, some of them were.
Some of them were Akkadian, and Sumerian, some Elamites from Elam,

Mari, Nuzi, Mitanni, some Hurrians.

Suffice to say they were a cosmopolitan group
linked only by the Aramaic language.

They certainly knew where Egypt was, but

not much else about Egypt.

They got overthrown by the Assyrians in 729 BCE, and then
some of the remnants of old Babylon tossed the Assyrians in 612 BCE,

and Chaldean would be more historically accurate than Babylonian
(and then the Chaldeans were tossed by the Medo-Persians in 529 BCE).

In any event,

none of those "Babylonians" would have had Osiris and ancient Egypt in mind,

especially since the zodiac existed before they existed and was handed down to them.

Your claim that Osiris was "the most important god" is highly subjective,

baseless and without merit.

Name one pharaoh who took the name Osiris?

I can name dozens and dozens of pharaohs who took the names of Ra, On/An/Amen,

Ptah, Thoth, Ankh, Horus, Seth, Dedi and others.

For example, Dedumoses means "emanating from Dedi."

If, as you claim, Osiris is "the most important god"
then why didn't any pharaohs take the name of Osiris?

Only a non-Egyptian bereft of any knowledge of Egypt

would claim Osiris was "the most important god."

The Greek god of the underworld was Hades, not Osiris
and certainly not Pluto.

Pluto was the Roman/Latin name for Hades.

Neptune is the Latin name for the Greek Poseidon
.

Your attempt to rewrite history is not going very well.

with reference to ds oft repeated comment

Ouranos, Greek god of the Heavens, was known as

"Caelus" in Latin.

In Hurria in eastern Anatolia the Hurrian god Anus
was originally the cup bearer
for an even older heavenly ruler, Alalus.
After nine years Anus defeated and overthrew his master
dispatching him to under the earth
Similar to Zeus' overthrow of Kronos or his defeat
and casting into Tartaros of the Titans
The sky god Anu aka Anus equates to the Sumerian An/Anu, Ouranos, and Varuna
though there was no Earth consort in this myth.
However, the overthrow of this primordial sky god
closely parallels both the Sumerian and Greek versions :smile:
He took his seat on the throne and had Kumarbis as his cupbearer.
Likewise, after nine years
Kumarbis rebelled and usurped the rule of Anus who fled to the sky.
Kumarbis also bit off and swallowed his phallus
which detail parallels Kronos' castration of Ouranos.

In this act Anus had some revenge
by impregnating Kumarbis with the Storm-god
the god of the Aranzahas (Tigris) river, and Tasmisus.
Anus then hid himself in heaven.
After the Storm-god's 'birth' or regurgitation
this triad plotted to destroy Kumarbis
and, with his other children, succeeded.

Although this part of the Hurrian story diverges somewhat from the Greek
we can still recognize
that this impregnating of Kumarbis

equates to Kronos' swallowing his children

before both finally regurgitating them.



The respective children overthrew both of these gods
of whom the 'Storm-god' was the leader in both myths.
The 'impregnation' of Kumarbis also reflects another theme
recalled in such myths as Zeus' swallowing of his pregnant wife Metis
before 'giving birth' to Athena from his head
- a theme that is otherwise very strange to the other Indo-European peoples.
 

conspiracy theorist

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@ Uranus

I was working at the time of the earthquake. Apparently it was a magnitude 7.8, and the Cayman Islands got hit pretty badly. Apart from a few shaken up co-workers (huehuehuehue) it was business as usual.

Anyway, good to see that the internet friendship network is still alive and active. I have experienced another paradigm shift and am working like a demon most of the time. The plan is to fill the rest of my schedule with more activity. It's been an demanding year and I'm enjoying every minute of it. The next SR looks like another doozy since it has the Jupiter/Saturn/Pluto conjunction at the ascendant.
 

david starling

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Saturn goes into tropical Aqua for its 2 1/2 year cycle on Dec. 16/17 (depending on the time zone). Jupiter and Pluto will still be in Cap.

Jupiter/Saturn exactly conj on Dec. 21/22 @ 0 degree 32 min. tropical Aqua, while Pluto stays behind @ about 24 degrees Cap.
 
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Bunraku

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Jupiter in Capricorn people--I rarely get along with them. They seem to have an overly harsh view and despise my Jupiter in Pisces. They often criticize my happiness and feelings of content. :annoyed: :lol:
 
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Bunraku

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Check out JA's natal delineation in another thread. It's accurate, intelligent, and succinct, with an eclectic style that combines tradition with the world today.

Hi tsmall, it's worth mentioning that traditionally in Medieval astrology when examining the profession, it's routine to commence with the 1st - as well as 10th - because the Elemental Quality of the Ascendant Sign is a useful indicator of the Primary Motivation of the native :smile:

In this case the Elemental Quality of the Ascendant Sign is Tropical Earth. Earth signs need physical security.


Capricorn is one of the four Cardinal signs and Cardinal signs are the most active so Cardinal Capricorn works tirelessly – although usually in circumstances and an environment that has already been structured by others.


Saturn, Ruler as well as Almuten of the ascendant is in own Triplicity in 5th - finding Ruler of 1st in 5th indicates that the person seeks to fulfil their primary motivation through Entertainment or Children - or both. Another association with 5th house is gambling and on that note Jupiter is separating from direct opposition with Saturn.


Mercury, domicile ruler and Almuten of the degree in which Saturn is located is in 10th in domicile of Mars. Interestingly, the Exalted ruler of the Capricorn ascendant is Mars who is also the domicile ruler of the MC, furthermore Mars is located in the domicile of Saturn, thus linking the Primary Motivation of the native to their Career. It is frequently said that the Almuten and Exalted ruler are almost as significant as the domicile ruler - sometimes even more so.


Planets aspecting the Ascendant represent powers the native can use in the world and this person has a powerful Exalted Taurus Moon strongly angular in 4th, trining their ascendant and assisting/joining with the Primal Motivation drive towards physical security. Moon is domicile ruler of 7th thus linking partnerships of all kinds - including business or marriage - to the Primal Motivation drive as well as to the career AND the home. Furthermore, Venus, domicile ruler of Taurus is located in Mars domicile in 10th and is another connector linking the home to the career via 4th house/10th planets.
A need for Emotional Security is added to the Primal Motivation drive by Sun, Mercury and Venus aspecting the Ascendant by Sign from Tropical Scorpio. Fixed signs have a need to center and to acquire - in this case emotional security is sought via Career, the Home, Children in general, Entertainment. Exalted Ascendant ruler Mars forms part of the intricate weave as Mars is also domicile ruler of MC

In order to achieve their Primary Motivation, one would expect this person's Career to link Physical security, Emotional Security, Entertainment, Children and the Home. This person is likely to enjoy being with kids in general/being a performer/being creative and/or being a parent.

Furthermore according to Egyptian Terms, Jupiter, bound ruler of the ascendant is in domicile and located in 11th house of friends
. Wames said:


Jupiter is also the Exalted ruler of 7th and as such links to partnerships whether business, legal, marriage and so on and is another link via those significations to the Career as well as the Home of this person
 

petosiris

Banned
I’ve downloaded a couple of bible apps, thinking of going to church. I’m actually seeking theology now :lol:

''On more than 350 million devices around the world, people are reading, listening to, watching, and sharing the Bible everyday using the YouVersion Bible App—completely free. 1,400+ Bible versions, 1,000+ languages.'' - that is just one google app

''And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.'' - Matthew 24:14
 

Ukpoohbear

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I’m a little concerned about what parts of the Bible has been changed by humans and which parts will be truly conscious, but I’ll use my discernment and not let trust issues stop me trying. I basically just want to surrender my trust to the universe and ‘love consciousness,’ to save a ‘wretch like me.’ I’ve learnt enough to try believe in karma and that everything happens for a reason.
 
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