ChildOfVenus
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Yes this is true I don't really care for my father but both of my parents are overprotective and controlling. I like to travel and they give me a hard time about this. I still live at home some of the time and now that I'm in my Saturn return it seems to be a lot worse now. For example I want to go on a trip next month but I know when I tell my father he will probably give me a hard time. Are you saying manipulation on my parents part? If so yes they do try to manipulate me.
Sun=father, Moon=mother, so yes hard aspects with Pluto can mean some kind of abuse or manipulation.
The 10th house is one parent, the 4th the other. More often than not, the 4th pertains to the father even though that seems counterintuitive (the 4th is associated with the maternal sign of Cancer, ruled by the Moon). Clients, friends and my own father with this placement have either lost their fathers early, or had very strict and domineering fathers.
As for the effects, I sent you a couple of Saturn in the 4th emails, one had several dozen definitions from around the Web and books. Do you still have that one? Check it out!