Age of Aquarius May Not Be So Great

david starling

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Once the Aquarian Age takes effect, the power of the mind will replace the power of technology....doesn't mean technology will stop advancing, just that it will no longer dominate.
 
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Tcfourthefour

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Pluto generations Leo (the Baby-boomers) vs. Sagittarius (millennials) will have a rivalry, because both are fire signs. When the Boomers were younger in the 1960s, they clashed with their elders: Pluto in Aries and Taurus generations (19th century) and Gemini (early 20th century). Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius are fixed signs, while Taurus-Scorpio and Leo-Aquarius are opposites. Generation gaps when they have their own ideas of making the world a better place: the old establishment wants to preserve the status quo vs. the new youth about to inherit the world. Debates and arguments on politics, religion, economics and sociocultural beliefs, values, mores and rules tend to intensify in our endless culture wars involved differing generations, esp. if their Plutos are in fire signs (Aries, Leo and Sagittarius) or opposite fixed signs. Currently, Pluto is in Capricorn in between Sag and Aquarius, the calm before the storm, and right when we're entering the Aquarian age.


I couldn't agree with you more. I have been checking the frequencies of the planets (Pluto, Saturn, Uranus). I am actually looking closely to the Great Conjunction 21 December 2020 13:22 6' South 30.3° East Aquarius. I believe we will at least understand the next 20 years. However we will have the Jupiter energy to help balance
 
Hello!
On January 20 the Sun made its annual move into the eccentric and evolutionary tropical zodiac sign of Aquarius, where it will stay through February 19. While “Aquarius Season” is 30 days long, the Age of Aquarius is said to last around 2,160 years.
You should check these blogs.
 

CapAquaPis

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Hello!
On January 20 the Sun made its annual move into the eccentric and evolutionary tropical zodiac sign of Aquarius, where it will stay through February 19. While “Aquarius Season” is 30 days long, the Age of Aquarius is said to last around 2,160 years.
You should check these blogs.

And the great conjunction of Jupiter/Saturn period in Aquarius in Dec 2020-Jan 2021, about 2,020 years of the old age (Pisces) enters the new age (Aquarius). I expect it's either a 2,000 year period or a 2,160 year one, should the median number will be 2080? The year 2020 is a double number, something magical. Either it is about the Trump administration escaped impeachment and appears to be losing chances on a re-election, because of the Covid19 pandemic and economic damage caused by it, this will be a rocky year.
 

david starling

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And the great conjunction of Jupiter/Saturn period in Aquarius in Dec 2020-Jan 2021, about 2,020 years of the old age (Pisces) enters the new age (Aquarius). I expect it's either a 2,000 year period or a 2,160 year one, should the median number will be 2080? The year 2020 is a double number, something magical. Either it is about the Trump administration escaped impeachment and appears to be losing chances on a re-election, because of the Covid19 pandemic and economic damage caused by it, this will be a rocky year.

So, whatcha think :capricorn::aquarius::pisces:, will it be a great Age or not? You should have some insight regarding the matter.
 

CapAquaPis

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So, whatcha think :capricorn::aquarius::pisces:, will it be a great Age or not? You should have some insight regarding the matter.

The early 2020s will be a tough time: Great political division in the USA after Trump isn't re-elected and he was the most divisive politician we ever had; and a chance of WW3 when the USA gets into conflict with a triple enemy alliance: Communist China, Islamic Republic of Iran, maybe Cuba, North Korea and Syria, and Venezuela...then there's Russia when Putin decides to engage in full combat. Continued global economic crisis, the dried up oil market and intense political/ ideological hatred are factors of America and it's allies (i.e. Britain, France, Saudi Arabia, Israel and South Korea) to decisively go to war just to make a buck, esp. to raise the price of oil back to let's say $60-70 a barrel.
 

david starling

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Well, Aquarius is the Sign of peaceful solutions. Maybe clearer thinking will prevail in the future. That's what I'm hoping for, once Trump gets bumped.
 

CapAquaPis

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Well, Aquarius is the Sign of peaceful solutions. Maybe clearer thinking will prevail in the future. That's what I'm hoping for, once Trump gets bumped.

In a highly scientific age, we're much better in viral treatments and discoveries of what to combat new viruses. Also, another supermoon in a 29-day month period on May 7th (full moon in Scorpio), we had one on Apr 8 (passover moon, it has to fall on Libra)...almost like a blue moon. Both Libra and Scorpio full moons in Aries and Taurus sun months, are seen as healing to a sickened world in midst of a pandemic. It can be seen as periods of mobilization and response to a great disaster. And it should involve other planetary alignments to make this occur. Humanity has learned in world history in putting an end to disease pandemics, we can be fatalistic and realistic, but there's promising research in vaccine development to prevent Covid-19 and drug treatments to save lives.
 

CapAquaPis

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Slightly off topic, but I noticed something recently and I wanted to mention it. I remembered this thread, and I remember your theory about the Ages and I figured this place would be the best place to discuss it

They say Christianity was the symbol of the Piscean Age, a sign traditionally ruled by Jupiter. Jesus appears to have had a very Piscean nature, but The Church itself does not seem to reflect Jesus's actual teachings. Christianity was originally symbolized by the fish (Pisces) and scholars say he was actually born around March. But we celebrate his birthday in December, and they replaced the fish with a cross, why is that?

I was passing by a church the other day and for the first time, I noticed the Christian cross looks suspiciously like the glyph of Saturn. I don't think this is a coincidince. Why is Jesus symbolized by the thing he died on? The thing they killed him with? It doesn't make much sense to me.

Christmas is celebrated on December 25th because they wanted it to correspond with various Pagan holidays, such as Yule and the Roman festival, Saturnalia. I just find it interesting because Christmas is more about Santa than it is Jesus Christ. It's more of a commercialist holiday, nowadays. Jesus does not seem to have had a Capricornian (???) nature, but Christmas certainly does, and in a different way, so does religion.

I have a more in depth theory about this if anyone's interested.

I don't know American society is turning less Christian, but millions of people criticize Jesus Christ and there are non-Christians who don't believe he's the son of God. It's not immoral to not believe in Jesus Christ, we have freedom of religion and conscience in what we truly and dearly believe. Jesus Christ is a Capricorn and was only a civilian when he lived in the holy land 2000 years ago. Another Capricorn hero who's American, was only a civilian and positively influenced society is Dr/Rev Martin Luther King Jr (1929-68). It's unpopular to criticize him, but be in mind all people are not free of and can be subjected to criticism. And both Jesus Christ as a religious and ethical figure, and Martin Luther King Jr to influence political and social history of the USA and the world are the only 2 civilians to have their birthdays as official federal holidays in the USA.
 

david starling

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In a highly scientific age, we're much better in viral treatments and discoveries of what to combat new viruses. Also, another supermoon in a 29-day month period on May 7th (full moon in Scorpio), we had one on Apr 8 (passover moon, it has to fall on Libra)...almost like a blue moon. Both Libra and Scorpio full moons in Aries and Taurus sun months, are seen as healing to a sickened world in midst of a pandemic. It can be seen as periods of mobilization and response to a great disaster. And it should involve other planetary alignments to make this occur. Humanity has learned in world history in putting an end to disease pandemics, we can be fatalistic and realistic, but there's promising research in vaccine development to prevent Covid-19 and drug treatments to save lives.

I suppose you already know I don't consider these pandemics to be manifestations of the Age of Aquarius. I see them as vestiges of the past, which will be fully eradicated once the Aquarian Age actually takes effect.
There is increasing influence from the approaching Aquarian Age though, which will help us get through this difficult transitional period.
 

david starling

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I don't know American society is turning less Christian, but millions of people criticize Jesus Christ and there are non-Christians who don't believe he's the son of God. It's not immoral to not believe in Jesus Christ, we have freedom of religion and conscience in what we truly and dearly believe. Jesus Christ is a Capricorn and was only a civilian when he lived in the holy land 2000 years ago. Another Capricorn hero who's American, was only a civilian and positively influenced society is Dr/Rev Martin Luther King Jr (1929-68). It's unpopular to criticize him, but be in mind all people are not free of and can be subjected to criticism. And both Jesus Christ as a religious and ethical figure, and Martin Luther King Jr to influence political and social history of the USA and the world are the only 2 civilians to have their birthdays as official federal holidays in the USA.

Interesting that both were martyred for their religious principles. Martin Luther King Jr. was heavily criticized for opposing the Vietnam War.
 

CapAquaPis

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Interesting that both were martyred for their religious principles. Martin Luther King Jr. was heavily criticized for opposing the Vietnam War.

MLK Jr was a crusader against poverty in America, which made him lose some civil rights activist supporters who were for the war and thought his ideas was "socialist". MLK Jr. was a person, only a person...he's not perfect, he does have a criminal record of bouncing checks (a felony) and caught with prostitutes, as well infidelity in his marriage. He's still a genuine good person with Capricorn and a lot of Aquarian energies, esp. the 1960s was the dawning of the age of Aquarius with a Capricornian side. His dream of a more united, peaceful and equal society is what made him a hero to millions of Americans and billions of people worldwide. Many Americans opposed the Vietnam war, a hot portion of the cold war when the US foreign policy was to contain any communist uprising anywhere in the world, but we don't know the US should ever gotten involved.
 

CapAquaPis

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In the Aquarian age, you have the micro-ages and smaller ages within them. Some astrologers said the year 1432 is when the Aquarian age began, under a Capricorn micro-age and a Capricorn portion. In 2020, we're in a Libra micro-age under a Gemini from 2014-29. I take it we would be in a very air sign type of era when you have Aquarius+Libra+Gemini (social progress, prosperity and telecommunication). 1969-70 was when the Libra micro-age began just when the first of 6 manned lunar landings happened: 2 in 1969 and 4 in the 1970s.
 

david starling

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In the Aquarian age, you have the micro-ages and smaller ages within them. Some astrologers said the year 1432 is when the Aquarian age began, under a Capricorn micro-age and a Capricorn portion. In 2020, we're in a Libra micro-age under a Gemini from 2014-29. I take it we would be in a very air sign type of era when you have Aquarius+Libra+Gemini (social progress, prosperity and telecommunication). 1969-70 was when the Libra micro-age began just when the first of 6 manned lunar landings happened: 2 in 1969 and 4 in the 1970s.

I've been explaining that the sidereal Ages alone can't explain things well enough, and that there are tropical Ages occurring simultaneously.

You're probably aware of the "epicycles" necessary to the Ptolemaic model of planetary motion. Johan Kepler introduced the elliptical orbit model, which made the epicycles superfluous.

It's the elliptical orbit model itself which makes it possible to track the Ages tropically. This eliminates the need for micro-ages within micro-ages, just as the elliptical orbits eliminated the need for Ptolemy's epicycles.

The tropical Ages are direct-motion, and are determined using astronomy, for both the transiting Age-indicator and the tropical Sign-boundaries. There's no guesswork involved, only astronomy.
 

david starling

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Sidereal astrologers are nearly unanimous in determining that the beginning of the Age of Aquarius is still centuries away.
With the exception of Terry MacKinnell, who uses a sidereal Age-indicator 15 degrees ahead of that used by nearly everyone else. This gives an Aquarian Age beginning at the time of the Renaissance, with micro-Ages within micro-Ages. But, he does say that the sidereal Aquarian Age won't manifest its true results until centuries from now, due to interference from a continuing, unyielding Piscean Age which overlaps it. In that sense he agrees with the other siderealists that it won't come into full effect for at least another 300 years.

The tropical Ages have the tropical Aquarian Age coming into full effect c.2150, with a current transitional period, as this Age of tropical Capricorn nears its ending.
 

CapAquaPis

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In the year 1432, the first Europeans (Portugal) began to set sail to Africa and Asia, and within 60 years, they along with Spain "discovered" the Americas. It may be the first year of the Aquarian age, Capricorn micro-age and Capricorn era. Now in 2020, we're in the Libra micro-age (since 1969, just when the first man landed on the moon, the Virgo era 1969-84) and Gemini era (2013-28, note the Dec 21, 2012 prophecy talk). This is one of many theories on when exactly we've entered the Aquarian age, because there's no clear year. I have to say 2000-01 were the most important years of everyone who's alive now, it could well be the starting point of the Aquarian age within our living memory.
 

david starling

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In the year 1432, the first Europeans (Portugal) began to set sail to Africa and Asia, and within 60 years, they along with Spain "discovered" the Americas. It may be the first year of the Aquarian age, Capricorn micro-age and Capricorn era. Now in 2020, we're in the Libra micro-age (since 1969, just when the first man landed on the moon, the Virgo era 1969-84) and Gemini era (2013-28, note the Dec 21, 2012 prophecy talk). This is one of many theories on when exactly we've entered the Aquarian age, because there's no clear year. I have to say 2000-01 were the most important years of everyone who's alive now, it could well be the starting point of the Aquarian age within our living memory.

The Age-indicator is a measured, transiting point that enters a measured Sign when any Age begins, including the Age of Aquarius. No guessing needed tropically. But, there is disagreement as to where, exactly the sidereal Signs are located. Even one degree difference in sidereal Sign-placement means a +/- 71.6 year difference in when the Age-sign ingress occurs, and it's the ingress that tells exactly when the Age officially begins.

Why are tropical astrologers so precise on everything else, right down to a minute of arc, but so murky and confused when it comes to the start-year of the Aquarian Age?
 
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david starling

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I see no reason whatsoever why the tropical Zodiac wouldn't have an Age-indicator setting of its own, due to Earth's "wobble" as it rotates.

And not surprising, (since it's mainly tropicalists who are most intuitively aware of an upcoming Aquarian Age), that the next and soon-to-occur new tropical Age will be that of tropical Aquarius.
 
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CapAquaPis

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I see no reason whatsoever why the tropical Zodiac wouldn't have an Age-indicator setting of its own, due to Earth's "wobble" as it rotates.

And not surprising, (since it's mainly tropicalists who are most intuitively aware of an upcoming Aquarian Age), that the next and soon-to-occur new tropical Age will be that of tropical Aquarius.

Some astrologers said the age of Aquarius actually begins in the year 2597, a long way from now (5 centuries). The last 650 years under a Libra? or Gemini? decan. It should have began in 1947 after WW2 and start of the cold war which ended around 1991, about 45 years long.
 
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