Ruskapi
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I love this thread so much! Thank you all for so much information. I have been trying to get a better handle on quintiles and the notes about traits seeming natural to others but not necessarily feeling so to the individual is kinda neat. I also see that, certainly in myself, I cannot be fake in these areas so that interpretation feels right to me.
My Sun is quintile my Ascendant, and Mars my MC.
For Sun/Asc, I think I do have a natural gift for expressing myself honestly and having what I say be (reasonably) well-received. I can get away with saying stuff many others wouldn’t because, by grace of god I suppose, people seem to be able to perceive my intentions (which are usually to help). But I mean…I have Venus-Sun and Mars-Uranus deciles as well, and there’s clear logic and a method to what I say and how I act, I’m not just blurting stuff out. But by the same token, I cannot lie or hide how I’m feeling to save my life. I have a knack for knowing how to phrase things to make them palatable, but people usually know what I mean, for better or worse.
As for my perception of the skill, it’s hard for me to separate what might be lack of awareness and what might be self-doubt due to having Saturn conjunct my ASC. When I was younger I had a lot of trouble expressing anything, and my perception was that no one valued me enough to want to listen anyway, so I didn’t try. Having worked hard to make friends with my Saturn, I can say I now definitely speak with the kind of confidence people respond to. But, again, Saturn can give you that if you learn how to use it.
I really love the descriptions from Waybread: "As quintiles supposedly indicate (a) talent and (b)some determination to manifest it." That the sun Q Asc can manifest as, "the need to make something of [Q] myself [since] the sun and ascendant are the two points that relate most closely to our identity." …because I know I have an intense desire to make something of myself, and to be able to express myself clearly. Quite specifically, becoming a writer is one of the things I want most, so my hope is that this aspect might lend itself to that task.
The Mars quintile MC still feels a bit unclear to me, though…
Natally, my Mars is in the 12th and I don’t have much energy, but if I manage to get off my lazy rear, there’s really not much I can’t accomplish thanks to good focus and finishing power. But I have always attributed that to Mars being conjunct Pluto, so…maybe this aspect has more to do with what actions I take to accomplish those goals? Or the level of luck I have doing so?
I’m definitely a work-smarter-not-harder person. I have a natural knack for being able to figure out which things that, if fixed, will correct a handful of other problems with them. Like, people may ask me to fix a crack at the top of a structure, and I’ll be able to look and trace things back to invisible problems in the base which, if fixed, will prevent further problems. That kind of thing. Mostly I do this to assist with therapeutic issues, since that is a passion of mine, but I can do it for most tasks given to me. Maybe that energy is Martian, since it’s a direct approach? Ahhh, but again, Pluto and Scorpio are so strong in my chart that I never go by the surface appearance of anything...
I mean…I would never classify myself as a hard worker, so that’s there. I mean, I know I'm capable of hard work and have the stamina required to do so, but I guess that's why I don't feel like I expend much most of the time. I know what it feels like when I work hard, and I don't very often. At least not as it relates to the MC. Maybe that's part of it? I tend to focus all my Pluto-Mars into personal interests, so maybe this aspect is the reason I can complete required tasks fairly well without actually working very hard on them.
Does that sound correct? Thanks so much for reading,
My Sun is quintile my Ascendant, and Mars my MC.
For Sun/Asc, I think I do have a natural gift for expressing myself honestly and having what I say be (reasonably) well-received. I can get away with saying stuff many others wouldn’t because, by grace of god I suppose, people seem to be able to perceive my intentions (which are usually to help). But I mean…I have Venus-Sun and Mars-Uranus deciles as well, and there’s clear logic and a method to what I say and how I act, I’m not just blurting stuff out. But by the same token, I cannot lie or hide how I’m feeling to save my life. I have a knack for knowing how to phrase things to make them palatable, but people usually know what I mean, for better or worse.
As for my perception of the skill, it’s hard for me to separate what might be lack of awareness and what might be self-doubt due to having Saturn conjunct my ASC. When I was younger I had a lot of trouble expressing anything, and my perception was that no one valued me enough to want to listen anyway, so I didn’t try. Having worked hard to make friends with my Saturn, I can say I now definitely speak with the kind of confidence people respond to. But, again, Saturn can give you that if you learn how to use it.
I really love the descriptions from Waybread: "As quintiles supposedly indicate (a) talent and (b)some determination to manifest it." That the sun Q Asc can manifest as, "the need to make something of [Q] myself [since] the sun and ascendant are the two points that relate most closely to our identity." …because I know I have an intense desire to make something of myself, and to be able to express myself clearly. Quite specifically, becoming a writer is one of the things I want most, so my hope is that this aspect might lend itself to that task.
The Mars quintile MC still feels a bit unclear to me, though…
Natally, my Mars is in the 12th and I don’t have much energy, but if I manage to get off my lazy rear, there’s really not much I can’t accomplish thanks to good focus and finishing power. But I have always attributed that to Mars being conjunct Pluto, so…maybe this aspect has more to do with what actions I take to accomplish those goals? Or the level of luck I have doing so?
I’m definitely a work-smarter-not-harder person. I have a natural knack for being able to figure out which things that, if fixed, will correct a handful of other problems with them. Like, people may ask me to fix a crack at the top of a structure, and I’ll be able to look and trace things back to invisible problems in the base which, if fixed, will prevent further problems. That kind of thing. Mostly I do this to assist with therapeutic issues, since that is a passion of mine, but I can do it for most tasks given to me. Maybe that energy is Martian, since it’s a direct approach? Ahhh, but again, Pluto and Scorpio are so strong in my chart that I never go by the surface appearance of anything...
I mean…I would never classify myself as a hard worker, so that’s there. I mean, I know I'm capable of hard work and have the stamina required to do so, but I guess that's why I don't feel like I expend much most of the time. I know what it feels like when I work hard, and I don't very often. At least not as it relates to the MC. Maybe that's part of it? I tend to focus all my Pluto-Mars into personal interests, so maybe this aspect is the reason I can complete required tasks fairly well without actually working very hard on them.
Does that sound correct? Thanks so much for reading,
