Donald Trump will be impeached.

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david starling

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Oddity said:
You mean things like the abrupt blanket-ban of refugees from seven countries? The botched attempt to create a different healthcare and then realising it was 'complicated'? Though Obamacare is a big failure for a lot of people, you have to admit that. Appointing Scott Gottlieb as the new FDA director? That kind of thing?

Ye gods, David, from the beginning (pre-election) both Dirius and I posted extensively about the guy's unsuitability for the job....

Point is, he's in office now. And I want him to do a good job for America. Don't you? Why is that a bad thing? Why does that make me a brainless sycophant?
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You and Dirius are rational, intelligent, independent thinkers. The problem is, Trump is INCAPABLE of doing a good job for America. He's unsuitable for the job, as you said. He's a tool for the Neocons, the Petrochemical Industry, the Drug War Industry, which includes the Prison Industry, etc. But it's his attitude that's causing emotional damage to the country. Pence might be just as bad in terms of policies, but the emotional climate would vastly improve. The sooner Trump is out of office, the better.
 
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david starling said:
You and Dirius are rational, intelligent, independent thinkers. The problem is, Trump is INCAPABLE of doing a good job for America. He's unsuitable for the job, as you said. He's a tool for the Neocons, the Petrochemical Industry, the Drug War Industry, which includes the Prison Industry, etc. But it's his attitude that's causing emotional damage to the country. Pence might be just as bad in terms of policies, but the emotional climate would vastly improve. The sooner Trump is out of office, the better.
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THERE'S the nasty, threatening, bullying attitude that's dividing this nation. Can't trust what he says, either. Won't release his tax-returns, so we have only his bankrupt veracity to go on. Lost his credit rating in his own country and had to turn to foreign investors, especially Russians. That much, we do know.
 
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david starling said:
THERE'S the nasty, threatening, bullying
attitude that's dividing this nation.
Can't trust what he says, either.
Won't release his tax-returns, so
we have only his bankrupt veracity to go on.
Lost his credit rating in his own country
and had to turn to foreign investors, especially Russians.
That much, we do know.
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tRump and his administration's future. And after only 3 years in play - a full year short of the completion of a full term.

I think more convictions of his personnel are coming than there were for Nixon's crew. Astrology.
 

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david starling said:
Unemployment went down every month of Obama's last 2 years in office. This pittance in tax relief for the middle class will be more than offset by inflation. A huge increase in the National Debt will be laid on the doorstep of the next Administration, the way Bush Jr's tax policies landed on Obama's. We're in more trouble than you know, but if you lived here, I think both you and Oddity would understand. The attitude of the President does matter here, and this lying, swaggering, greedy bully is making the national mood worse, not better--wrongheaded economic and environmental policies aside.
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National debt increasing and inflation have little to do with tax cuts, they are a product of goverment spending. Obama almost doubled national debt, while having very high taxes, which not only shows they are unrelated, but makes your comparison of Bush and Obama quite hilarious.

If you wish to counter inflation, you need to spend less.
 
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You can always tell when people are desperate about Trumpanzee when they keep talking about the Popular President Hillary Clintin and former Presidents because they cannot defend ONE policy of Trumpanzee WH because it's all a complete disaster and collapsing as I type this.


So many Republicans have stated that they will not be running for re-election.
Speaker Paul Ryan is leaving the sinking ship faster than anyone can say Mueller investigation!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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National debt increasing and inflation have little to do with tax cuts, they are a product of goverment spending. Obama almost doubled national debt, while having very high taxes, which not only shows they are unrelated, but makes your comparison of Bush and Obama quite hilarious.

If you wish to counter inflation, you need to spend less.
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Absolutely wrong! Obama kept discretionary spending down, and attempted to convince Congress to roll back Bush Jr's massive tax cuts for the wealthy. There was also the serious Recession to deal with, due to 8 years of a Republican administration. Reagan's tax cuts did the same thing, but were early enough to put the blame where it belonged. If you want to drastically increase the National Debt, cut taxes on those who need the increase in income least. If you want to increase inflation, start a tariff trade-war.
On a humorous note, if Economics is considered a "Science", then Astrology should DEFINITELY be considered one as well! :lol:
 
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Nancy Pelosi and other Dems are telling their cohorts to stop talking about impeachment. Their internal polling shows them it's not a winning strategy.

Hope Trump is making a place in the Oval Office to put his Nobel Peace Prize. :wink:
 
unique_astrology

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The Ides of June.

June 13 may get national attention according to astrology. It connects with the August 2017 total solar eclipse that spanned the country and tRump’s natal and solar return charts. It also attacks the Sibly Mars-Neptune square while New Moon Mars trines Sibly Uranus. Not favorable for tRump or the country or "This very bad for" tRump.

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The New Moon of June 13 will drag tRump onto the rack of The American Eclipse of last August as eclipse Saturn is opposed by it and his natal Sun and Moon receive direct hits from from it and from eclipse Saturn, all square the eclipse MC in Washington, DC.

If a precessed solar return is used it's Mars/Pluto is square the MC.

If a regular return is used the American Eclipse Saturn is on the Asc.

Strong is strong.

No Peace Prize.
 
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unique_astrology said:
The Ides of June.

June 13 may get national attention according to astrology. It connects with the August 2017 total solar eclipse that spanned the country and tRump’s natal and solar return charts. It also attacks the Sibly Mars-Neptune square while New Moon Mars trines Sibly Uranus. Not favorable for tRump or the country or "This very bad for" tRump.

https://i.imgur.com/431abIo.gif

The New Moon of June 13 will drag tRump onto the rack of The American Eclipse of last August as eclipse Saturn is opposed by it and his natal Sun and Moon receive direct hits from from it and from eclipse Saturn, all square the eclipse MC in Washington, DC.

If a precessed solar return is used it's Mars/Pluto is square the MC.

If a regular return is used the American Eclipse Saturn is on the Asc.

Strong is strong.

No Peace Prize.
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Obama and his regime murdered hundreds of thousands and got one. Trump brings peace to the Koreans and gets nothing? Globalists are the worst.
 
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Obama and his regime murdered hundreds of thousands and got one. Trump brings peace to the Koreans and gets nothing? Globalists are the worst.
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Reagan didn't get one for bringing down the Berlin Wall. Wait until the details of this "peace agreement" come out. Could look very bad for Trump--N.Korea and China may get everything they want, which includes Chinese control of N.Korea, and a N.Korea with nuclear arms and missles, and no freedom of movement by Korean citizens, in and out of N.Korea.
Obama shouldn't have gotten one. The Prize is meaningless since Kissinger got one.
 
Dirius

Dirius

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david starling said:
Absolutely wrong! Obama kept discretionary spending down, and attempted to convince Congress to roll back Bush Jr's massive tax cuts for the wealthy. There was also the serious Recession to deal with, due to 8 years of a Republican administration. Reagan's tax cuts did the same thing, but were early enough to put the blame where it belonged. If you want to drastically increase the National Debt, cut taxes on those who need the increase in income least. If you want to increase inflation, start a tariff trade-war.
On a humorous note, if Economics is considered a "Science", then Astrology should DEFINITELY be considered one as well! :lol:
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I never said obama increased public spending, I said he increased national debt. He didn't do anything to cut spending though.

The reason why recession and inflation usually follow tax cuts, is because goverment keeps spending at the same rate without reducing public spending. Its not because of tax cuts themselves. Problem is that cutting federal programs is usually an unpopular move no president wants to take full on because of the political costs. The tariff war has no impact on inflation, it just makes the costs of certain products to increase, which isn't the same.

And yes, I agree that Trump's plan, as it is right now without cutting massive spending, will probably fail. But this is because he is applying a half-measure. In general, the tax cut is a good thing, and he still has time to apply the proper full-measure, but he will probably wait until re-elected (if he gets there).

Take foreign aid for example: it is completely useless program and wastes billions of dollars per year; but cutting that program would give the left the excuse they need to make a negative public image of a fiscal conservative president.
 
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Neoliberalism has been thoroughly discredited in practice, although it sounds good in theory. True "austerity" would mean belt-tightening by the rich, as well as the poor, in the form of higher, not lower, taxes. If Trump had DIRECTLY tied the massive tax cuts for the extremely wealthy to contributions to the nation's economic growth, the social-safety-net, and the infrastructure, it wouldn't have been what it is: A sure way to drastically increase the National Debt.
 
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