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I thought video below would interest about ancient Egypt, although most would know about the alleged cover-up, it is still worth seeing:-



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7gEJeZOfpM&app=desktop


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Sometimes finding stuff that flies into the face of accepted thinking
makes investigators hide finds, but
who knows whats under the Sphinx?

Controversial finds do tend to be hidden as shown below:-

https://www.nytimes.com/1985/06/25/s...in-brazil.html

Zahi Hawass is very controversial as shown below:-

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/eg...d-theft-172356
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Sometimes finding stuff that flies into the face of accepted thinking makes investigators hide finds, but who knows whats under the Sphinx?


Controversial finds do tend to be hidden as shown below:-
https://www.nytimes.com/1985/06/25/s...in-brazil.html


Zahi Hawass is very controversial as shown below:-
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/eg...d-theft-172356
Inconvenient truths!
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Hi Jup,
I thought i would do some explaining, what happened before and after the Greek invasion of Egypt by Alexander the Great regarding the heliacal rising of Sirius.
The Egyptians always looked for the first signs of dawn, where the Eastern horizon was slightly orange, but the rest of the sky was still dark to view Sirius rising with the Sun.
When the Greeks invaded, they had better mathematical skills and were able to calcalate when the Sun and Sirius were on the horizon without actually being to see it, as the sky is too bright with half a Sun on the horizon.
This measure is called a "Cosmical rising", it is the measure that Countries and secret societies use up to the present day, please read 3 page of report below:-
https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/4840/1/4840.pdf


An example of Secret Society activity in Egypt is when they wanted to create a revolution regarding King Farouk in 1952, it is very apt to get rid of a Pharaoh or King, when Sirius is rising with the Sun in a cosmic alignment on actual day!



All information about the 23rd July 1952 revolution below:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypti...lution_of_1952
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MATHEMATICAL MUSINGS


The Greek astronomer Hipparchus
who lived about 120 years BC
has long been regarded as the father of trigonometry
with his "table of chords" on a circle
considered the oldest trigonometric table.
HOWEVER
Plimpton 322 predates Hipparchus by more than 1000 years


"PLIMPTON 322 opens up new possibilities
not just for modern mathematics research,

but also for mathematics education.

With Plimpton 322 we see a simpler, more accurate trigonometry
that has clear advantages over our own.
A treasure-trove of Babylonian tablets exists
but only a fraction of them have been studied yet.
The mathematical world is only waking up to the fact that this ancient
but very sophisticated mathematical culture has much to teach us"

said Dr Wildberger



Dr Mansfield read about Plimpton 322 by chance
when preparing material for first year mathematics students at UNSW.
He and Dr Wildberger decided to study Babylonian mathematics
and examine the different historical interpretations of the tablet's meaning
after realizing that it had parallels with the rational trigonometry
of Dr Wildberger's book Divine Proportions: Rational Trigonometry to Universal Geometry.

The 15 rows on the tablet describe a sequence of 15 right-angle triangles
which are steadily decreasing in inclination.
The left-hand edge of the tablet is broken
and the UNSW researchers build on previous research
to present new mathematical evidence
that there were originally 6 columns
and that the tablet was meant to be completed with 38 rows.

They also demonstrate how the ancient scribes
who used a base 60 numerical arithmetic similar to our time cloc
rather than the base 10 number system we use
could have generated the numbers on the tablet
using their mathematical techniques.

The UNSW Science mathematicians also provide evidence
that discounts the widely-accepted view that the tablet was simply a teacher's aid
for checking students' solutions of quadratic problems.

"Plimpton 322 was a powerful tool
that could have been used for surveying fields
or making architectural calculations to build palaces, temples
or step pyramids," says Dr Mansfield.

The tablet - thought to have come from the ancient Sumerian city of Larsa
has been dated to between 1822 and 1762 BC.
and is now in the Rare Book and Manuscript Library
at Columbia University in New York.

https://phys.org/news/2017-08-mathem...nian-clay.html



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3700-year old Babylonian Tablet
Confirms
Pythagoras DID NOT INVENT the Theorem Bearing His Name

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-...theorem-021581

Old Babylonian mathematics and Plimpton 322:
A new understanding of the OB tablet Plimpton 322

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L24GzTaOll0




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This measure is called a "Cosmical rising",


it is the measure that Countries and secret societies use
up to the present day, please read 3 page of report below:-
https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/4840/1/4840.pdf

Thank you for elucidating
and highlighting

a very fine distinction Monk

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An example of Secret Society activity in Egypt
is when they wanted to create a revolution
regarding King Farouk in 1952,
it is very apt to get rid of a Pharaoh or King,
when Sirius is rising with the Sun
in a cosmic alignment on actual day!
All information about the 23rd July 1952 revolution below:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypti...lution_of_1952
Sirius/Sun graph on private members download:-
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The controlling class, that wrote the Bible
Some of the OT books were indeed written by judges, kings, conquerors and mighty men, others were written by people who ''suffered mocking and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. They were stoned, they were sawn into two (the prophet Isaiah), they were killed with the sword. They went about in skins of sheep and goats, destitute, afflicted, mistreated of whom the world was not worthy—wandering about in deserts and mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.'' - Hebrews 11.

With regard to the NT, you mean like the fishermen of Galilee and a Pharisee persecuted by his own people who said ''we have become as the scum of the world, the dregs of all things, even until now'' absolutely rejecting the idea that the saints would reign before the world to come? The NT was not written for many decades after the crucifixion, and most of it was written, because its content would be lost or corrupted in an oral transmission. Therefore this is a bad and naive excuse for rejecting the word of God.

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Hi Jup,
I thought i would do some explaining,
what happened before and after the Greek invasion of Egypt
by Alexander the Great regarding the heliacal rising of Sirius.
The Egyptians always looked for the first signs of dawn,
where the Eastern horizon was slightly orange,
but the rest of the sky was still dark to view Sirius rising with the Sun.
When the Greeks invaded, they had better mathematical skills
and were able to calcalate when the Sun and Sirius were on the horizon
without actually being to see it, as the sky is too bright
with half a Sun on the horizon.

Hi Monk - thanks

By 200BC much of the Mediterranean and what we now call the Middle East
was ruled by Hellenic monarchs claiming connection to Alexander the Great's empire.
Those ancient nations shared a language and thought of themselves as fellow Greeks
or Macedonians

even when at war.
Cultural - exchange in the region was therefore normal


From the viewpoint of Greek mathematics
some distinguish between two periods:
the classical period from about 600 B.C. to 300 B.C.
and the Alexandrian or Hellenistic period from 300 B.C. to 300 A.D.

Indeed, from about 350 B.C. the center of mathematics moved
from Athens to Alexandria (in Egypt)
the city built by Alexander the Great (358 -323 B.C.).
It remained the center of mathematics for a millennium
until the library was sacked by the Muslims in about 700 A.D.

RE:

THE SOURCES OF GREEK MATHEMATICS
In fact
our direct knowledge of Greek mathematics is less reliable
than that of the older Egyptian and Babylonian mathematics
because none of the original manuscripts are extant.
There are two sources:
  • Byzantine Greek codices (manuscript books)
  • written 500-1500 years after the Greek works were composed.
  • Arabic translations of Greek works
  • and Latin translations of the Arabic versions.
  • (Were there changes to the originals?)
  • we do not know even if these works were made from the originals.
  • For example, Heron made a number of changes in Euclid's Elements
  • adding new cases, providing different proofs and converses.
  • Likewise for Theon of Alexandria (400 A. D.).
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Sirius is a strange star, hardly effected by procession in the Julian Calendar, as shown below:-
"It has been noticed, and the Sothic cycle confirms, that Sirius does not move retrograde across the sky like other stars, a phenomenon widely known as the precession of the equinox. Professor Jed Buchwald wrote "Sirius remains about the same distance from the equinoxes—and so from the solstices—throughout these many centuries, despite precession." [11] For the same reason, the heliacal rising or zenith of Sirius does not slip through the calendar at the precession rate of about one day per 71.6 years as other stars do but much slower.[12] This remarkable stability within the solar year may be one reason that the Egyptians used it as a basis for their calendar. The coincidence of a heliacal rising of Sirius and the New Year reported by Censorinus occurred about the 20th of July, that is a month later after the summer solstice."


The Julian Calendar was constructed on 1st January 0045 BC, but the Greek Pharaoh Ptolomy III tried to add a leap year to the Egyptian Calendar, but failed because of religious reasons in 0238 BC.
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Hi Jup,
Sirius is a strange star,
hardly effected by procession in the Julian Calendar,
Hi Monk - observant Ancient Skywatchers
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"It has been noticed, and the Sothic cycle confirms,
that Sirius does not move retrograde across the sky like other stars,
a phenomenon widely known as the precession of the equinox.
passing strange

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Professor Jed Buchwald wrote
"Sirius remains about the same distance from the equinoxes
—and so from the solstices
—throughout these many centuries, despite precession." [11]
For the same reason, the heliacal rising or zenith of Sirius
does not slip through the calendar at the precession rate of
about one day per 71.6 years as other stars do
but much slower.[12]
This remarkable stability within the solar year
may be one reason that the Egyptians used it
as a basis for their calendar.
The coincidence of a heliacal rising of Sirius and the New Year
reported by Censorinus
occurred about the 20th of July,
that is a month later after the summer solstice."
The Julian Calendar was constructed on 1st January 0045 BC,
but the Greek Pharaoh Ptolomy III
tried to add a leap year to the Egyptian Calendar, but failed
because of religious reasons in 0238 BC.

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Here is what Philo says about the Magi - ''Among the Persians there is the body of the Magi, who, investigating the works of nature for the purpose of becoming acquainted with the truth, do at their leisure become initiated themselves and initiate others in the divine virtues by very clear explanations.'' - http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/t...lo/book33.html
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Some of the OT books were indeed written by judges, kings, conquerors and mighty men, others were written by people who ''suffered mocking and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. They were stoned, they were sawn into two (the prophet Isaiah), they were killed with the sword. They went about in skins of sheep and goats, destitute, afflicted, mistreated of whom the world was not worthy—wandering about in deserts and mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.'' - Hebrews 11.

With regard to the NT, you mean like the fishermen of Galilee and a Pharisee persecuted by his own people who said ''we have become as the scum of the world, the dregs of all things, even until now'' absolutely rejecting the idea that the saints would reign before the world to come? The NT was not written for many decades after the crucifixion, and most of it was written, because its content would be lost or corrupted in an oral transmission. Therefore this is a bad and naive excuse for rejecting the word of God.
Petosiris, you believe the newest myth. Oh well. One day, when this society ends, word of mouth will pass on the knowledge, as myth, till it is Pisces time to reign again.
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Re: Da Vinci Code – Is Any Of It Fact?

Hi Petosiris,
I wonder which church you will join, when you eventually do, maybe a church that advocates Self Flagellation like Opus Dei?
This church started with an alleged vision, but also Sirius was culminating as Sun was rising!


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"As a spirituality for ordinary people, Opus Dei focuses on performing sacrifices pertaining to normal duties and to its emphasis on charity and cheerfulness. But much public attention has focused on Opus Dei's practice of mortification—the voluntary offering up of discomfort or pain to God; this includes fasting, or for its celibate members, "corporal mortifications" such as self-inflicted pain self-flagellation".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_Dei
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Hi Jup,
Sirius is a strange star, hardly effected by procession in the Julian Calendar, as shown below:-
"It has been noticed, and the Sothic cycle confirms, that Sirius does not move retrograde across the sky like other stars, a phenomenon widely known as the precession of the equinox. Professor Jed Buchwald wrote "Sirius remains about the same distance from the equinoxes—and so from the solstices—throughout these many centuries, despite precession." [11] For the same reason, the heliacal rising or zenith of Sirius does not slip through the calendar at the precession rate of about one day per 71.6 years as other stars do but much slower.[12] This remarkable stability within the solar year may be one reason that the Egyptians used it as a basis for their calendar. The coincidence of a heliacal rising of Sirius and the New Year reported by Censorinus occurred about the 20th of July, that is a month later after the summer solstice."


The Julian Calendar was constructed on 1st January 0045 BC, but the Greek Pharaoh Ptolomy III tried to add a leap year to the Egyptian Calendar, but failed because of religious reasons in 0238 BC.
Thanks Jup, David and Monk, for all the great links and interesting thoughts, much appreciated!
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