2017 Eclipse U.S.A
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The Cat astrologer
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Do you think that the eclipse of 1811 could also be related to the war of 1812?
The Cat astrologer
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Also John Frawley, a traditional astrologer of today, and he would use the geographical center of the place intended in the case of new/full Moon, Aries ingresses, Jupiter-Saturn conjunction etc.The great majority of Mundane experts, past and present, always use (and continue to use) the capitol of a country for mundane maps, eclipse, lunation, ingress, yearly revolution, etc.
An exception was radical Modernist astrologer Johndro (1920's-early 1950's), who taught that the population center should be used, or-for long range weather or geological trend determinations-the geographic center should be used.
Experimenting with this concept, I have become convinced that using the population center (of a larger country*) for erecting mundane charts, yields more accurate maps than charts erected for the national capitol-hence my study of the forthcoming eclipse is based on the chart erected for the US center of population (Plato, Missouri)
Thank you for comparing elements of the US birth chart with the upcoming eclipse chart!
(*by "larger country" I mean the USA, Canada, Brazil, Russia, India, China, Australia, Mexico; for smaller countries I still pretty much use the national capitol as mundane chart location)
Still, if the eclipse is more visible in a particular place I would think that it is better using that place, but well this is just my humble opinion.
Based on my examination of that eclipse, my answer is yes. Same with the total eclipse of August, 1914 (over Europe) and its relationship to World War 1.
The Cat astrologer
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I see, also the previous Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in 1901 was quite remarkable.
Kuntuzangmo
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Regarding eclipses, the Tibetans say that everything is amplified during them, so emphases on positive thoughts and actions, meditation practice in particular is very much encouraged.
CapAquaPis
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The Aug 21, 1914 total solar eclipse was where a team of astronomers and scientists working for physicist Albert Einstein from the Prussian Academy in Germany were arrested by the Russian empire in the path of totality in the Ukraine when the two nations declared war on each other that day and they were briefly prisoners of war until a prisoner exchange returned them to the Germans as they returned Russian soldiers back to the Russians.
Eclipses are thought to predict great disasters, like the Aug 11, 1999 total solar eclipse might been the Nostradamus myth (in his time before 1582, Aug 11 was July 31 before the Roman Catholic church adapted the modern Gregorian calendar) on foretelling the 9/11 terrorist attack on the USA.
Another thing about eclipses, old wives' myths of babies born on eclipse dates have birth defects, some like clapt lips and others are rather strange. Anyone pregnant-due on (or becoming fathers) on this Aug 21st don't need to worry about these non-scientific tales would have on their baby/child.
Eclipses are thought to predict great disasters, like the Aug 11, 1999 total solar eclipse might been the Nostradamus myth (in his time before 1582, Aug 11 was July 31 before the Roman Catholic church adapted the modern Gregorian calendar) on foretelling the 9/11 terrorist attack on the USA.
Another thing about eclipses, old wives' myths of babies born on eclipse dates have birth defects, some like clapt lips and others are rather strange. Anyone pregnant-due on (or becoming fathers) on this Aug 21st don't need to worry about these non-scientific tales would have on their baby/child.
I believe the war eclipse of August 21, 1914, over Europe (and right on the star Regulus), began having its influence nearly 2 years BEFORE the moment of the actual eclipse, with the Balkans War of 1912-13; I believe it also influenced the June 1914 assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, and the July 1914 declarations of war by Austria (vs Serbia) and Germany (against Russia), as well as the first actual military action of the war, also in July (against a town in Luxembourg)-all these events occurring before the moment of the eclipse in August.
I believe this 1914 War eclipse continued in be operative through the end of World War 1 and on through the Russian Revolutionary War (1918-1920), and perhaps even as late as 1921, with the economic collapse and famine in Russia which claimed 5 million lives (1921-22 period)...
I consider our forthcoming August 21st 2017 total solar eclipse to be much milder than the 1914 solar eclipse, since ours will be on the star al Jabhah (and only somewhat in orb of Regulus), a significantly less potent star than Regulus.
I also believe that our eclipse has already manifested several pre-eclipse influences, which I shall mention in a future posting about our forthcoming eclipse.
I believe this 1914 War eclipse continued in be operative through the end of World War 1 and on through the Russian Revolutionary War (1918-1920), and perhaps even as late as 1921, with the economic collapse and famine in Russia which claimed 5 million lives (1921-22 period)...
I consider our forthcoming August 21st 2017 total solar eclipse to be much milder than the 1914 solar eclipse, since ours will be on the star al Jabhah (and only somewhat in orb of Regulus), a significantly less potent star than Regulus.
I also believe that our eclipse has already manifested several pre-eclipse influences, which I shall mention in a future posting about our forthcoming eclipse.
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As I have posted elsewhere I consider our August 21 2017 solar eclipse to be a warfare eclipse: now, today, August 21, Trump will address the nation about an escalation of the war in Afghanistan! 4000 more troops, and more intensive military action.
Also note that joint South Korean/US military war games commenced (yesterday I believe) in the Korean/Sea of Japan area...
Also note that joint South Korean/US military war games commenced (yesterday I believe) in the Korean/Sea of Japan area...
unique_astrology
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08-20-2016, 05:29 PM unique_astrology Senior Member
U.S. Unrest?
"War Eclipses? Every one finally under control of our Department of Homeland Security? Or?
Sep 1 2016 – Sun and Moon squared by Saturn, opposed by Neptune
Sep 16 2016 – Sun and Moon squared by Mars
Feb 10 2017
Eclipse Mars conjunct prog Sibly Asc
Eclipse Saturn square prog Sibly Neptune
Eclipse Neptune conjunct prog Sibly Sun
Eclipse Pluto square prog Sibly Mars
Feb 26 2017 – Mars conjunct Uranus
Aug 7 2017 – Saturn opposite Sibly Mars, square Sibly Neptune
Aug 21 2017 – Saturn stations opposite Sibly Mars, square Sibly Neptune; in the geographic center of the 50 states Mars is conjunct the MC, in the geographic center of the 48 contiguous states the eclipse is on the MC of the eclipse chart opposite the Sibly Moon (the people?) on the IC."
08-20-2016, 05:29 PM unique_astrology Senior Member
U.S. Unrest?
"War Eclipses? Every one finally under control of our Department of Homeland Security? Or?
Sep 1 2016 – Sun and Moon squared by Saturn, opposed by Neptune
Sep 16 2016 – Sun and Moon squared by Mars
Feb 10 2017
Eclipse Mars conjunct prog Sibly Asc
Eclipse Saturn square prog Sibly Neptune
Eclipse Neptune conjunct prog Sibly Sun
Eclipse Pluto square prog Sibly Mars
Feb 26 2017 – Mars conjunct Uranus
Aug 7 2017 – Saturn opposite Sibly Mars, square Sibly Neptune
Aug 21 2017 – Saturn stations opposite Sibly Mars, square Sibly Neptune; in the geographic center of the 50 states Mars is conjunct the MC, in the geographic center of the 48 contiguous states the eclipse is on the MC of the eclipse chart opposite the Sibly Moon (the people?) on the IC."
JUPITERASC
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Some of the toll has already been taken on the day after the eclipse.
It was Tuesday 22 August.
In Upper Darby, Pennsylvania, a commuter train crashed into a parked train, wounding over 40.
Story here.
Upper Darby lies exactly (nearly to the minute)
on the Saturn square MC line of the eclipse!
THE GREAT AMERICAN ECLIPSE IMMEDIATE EFFECTS
http://www.emakurent.com/en/2017/08/24/the-great-american-eclipse-immediate-effects/
So, when’s the next “hot” date?
Not in the nice sense of the word when we’re speaking of potential disaster.
But, surely, the eclipse will be activated on (or about) August 27
and September 3rd again.
Watch for the above areas
and see EMA KURENT BLOG of August 20 for the European danger zones
Kuntuzangmo
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Some of the toll has already been taken on the day after the eclipse.
It was Tuesday 22 August.
In Upper Darby, Pennsylvania, a commuter train crashed into a parked train, wounding over 40.
Story here.
Upper Darby lies exactly (nearly to the minute)
on the Saturn square MC line of the eclipse!
THE GREAT AMERICAN ECLIPSE IMMEDIATE EFFECTS
http://www.emakurent.com/en/2017/08/24/the-great-american-eclipse-immediate-effects/
So, when’s the next “hot” date?
Not in the nice sense of the word when we’re speaking of potential disaster.
But, surely, the eclipse will be activated on (or about) August 27
and September 3rd again.
Watch for the above areas
and see EMA KURENT BLOG of August 20 for the European danger zones
Looks like Harvey might make its mark in the coming days...
I consider the Las Vegas mass shooting the 2nd "warfare" manifestation since the 8/21/17 eclipse (the first warfare manifestation was Trump's escalation of the US war in Afghanistan on the afternoon of 8/21)
:ruling sign for Nevada is Scorpio: Scorpio was the ascending sign in the TSE map, in platik square to the Eclipse, and ascending degree in Scorpio in partile square to Mars, which planet had dominion of the Eclipse
:the Eclipse occurred in the sign of Leo, with Mars also there; in the 10:08 PM Las Vegas chart for the time of the shooting, Mars was in the Manilius decan of LEO in the shooting event chart, as was Venus, which was conjuncting Mars at the time (in the chart we also find Mars square Saturn, Venus opposition Neptune, Jupiter opposition Uranus, and the Sun on the star Vindemiatrix, long known by its nickname, the "widow-maker)
With over 500 casualties, I consider this event qualifies for a "warfare"like designation.
:ruling sign for Nevada is Scorpio: Scorpio was the ascending sign in the TSE map, in platik square to the Eclipse, and ascending degree in Scorpio in partile square to Mars, which planet had dominion of the Eclipse
:the Eclipse occurred in the sign of Leo, with Mars also there; in the 10:08 PM Las Vegas chart for the time of the shooting, Mars was in the Manilius decan of LEO in the shooting event chart, as was Venus, which was conjuncting Mars at the time (in the chart we also find Mars square Saturn, Venus opposition Neptune, Jupiter opposition Uranus, and the Sun on the star Vindemiatrix, long known by its nickname, the "widow-maker)
With over 500 casualties, I consider this event qualifies for a "warfare"like designation.
October 2017
Over 3000 homes and businesses destroyed in northern California brush fires; California wine country (Sonoma County) especially hard hit.
Note that:
-the 8/21/17 Eclipse was in the fire sign of Leo, its lord-also in Leo-being Mars
-the Eclipse featured a Grand FIRE trine. linking the Eclipse + Mars with Uranus in Aries and the Saturn/Dark Moon Lilith conjunction in Sagittarius
-California is in the far West of the USA = Leo
-northern California is specifically under Leo
-"vines" are under Leo
- vineyards are under Scorpio and Aquarius; in the Eclipse chart, Scorpio is the ascending sign, square the Eclipse & Mars; Aquarius is in opposition to the Eclipse & Mars
I consider this massive northern California fire a likely Eclipse effect.
Over 3000 homes and businesses destroyed in northern California brush fires; California wine country (Sonoma County) especially hard hit.
Note that:
-the 8/21/17 Eclipse was in the fire sign of Leo, its lord-also in Leo-being Mars
-the Eclipse featured a Grand FIRE trine. linking the Eclipse + Mars with Uranus in Aries and the Saturn/Dark Moon Lilith conjunction in Sagittarius
-California is in the far West of the USA = Leo
-northern California is specifically under Leo
-"vines" are under Leo
- vineyards are under Scorpio and Aquarius; in the Eclipse chart, Scorpio is the ascending sign, square the Eclipse & Mars; Aquarius is in opposition to the Eclipse & Mars
I consider this massive northern California fire a likely Eclipse effect.
detectahead
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It doesn't take rocket science to know that any major atrocities occurring within the US are associated with the past eclipse. What I am afraid of is another murder rampage in a school or on a campus of a university. Or possibly at a sporting event. Leo and mars, let's hope that this does not come about
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Good points: I agree.
detectahead
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I appreciate that acknowledgement Dr farr. The Las Vegas incident imo comes under entertainment...leo
In addition, other components of the Mandalay incident come under Leo:
-event happened in the far Western US (Leo)
-event happened in a desert (Leo, only sign ruling deserts)
-event happened @ a pleasure/vacation resort (Leo)
-event happened in a gambling casino (gambling, gambling places = Leo)
-gunmen was a high stakes gambler (Leo)
-gunmen had made his fortune as a speculator (in real estate) (speculations; speculators = Leo)
-gunmen was in a high place (32 floor of Mandalay Bay hotel and casino) at the time of the event; high places = Leo
The Mandalay event was "saturated" with Leo affinities.
(affinity references see eg R.Bills)
-event happened in the far Western US (Leo)
-event happened in a desert (Leo, only sign ruling deserts)
-event happened @ a pleasure/vacation resort (Leo)
-event happened in a gambling casino (gambling, gambling places = Leo)
-gunmen was a high stakes gambler (Leo)
-gunmen had made his fortune as a speculator (in real estate) (speculations; speculators = Leo)
-gunmen was in a high place (32 floor of Mandalay Bay hotel and casino) at the time of the event; high places = Leo
The Mandalay event was "saturated" with Leo affinities.
(affinity references see eg R.Bills)
detectahead
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I have the reference book, good points