It is quite possible.
what is your experience with the part of speculation? I just don't get how that is supposed to be interpereted 0.o
anyways, here are a few notes regarding the third and final conjunction to the mc from pluto:
As i stated before, the asc will be conjunct usa's natal part of love & appreciation.
the mc of the chart will be cpnjunct usa's part of termination/occultism. (About a degree and a half)
Venus conjunct usa's part of success by a bit under a degree and a half
Ceres will be conj usa's part of noble and illustrious acquaintances
merc and pallas will both be a bit over a degree away from usa's part of spiritual service.
and the moon will be conjunct usa's part of soul
mars conj the usa part of advancement. bit over a degree.
osc lillith will be conj the usa part of trickery
have a happy turkey day. don't eat too much
I haven't any experience with the Part of Speculation aka Part of Behest other than noting where it falls on my own natal chart, that of the few notable historic personages I have correct birth data and natal chart for and the USA's natal chart that I adhere to
Funny thing is, though, as the "Part of Malignancy", aka the "Part of Cancer", of which I have a great deal of doubt as to properly being so titled or even associated in any regard and which is of some concern to me presently as my own is @ 09* Aries 39' and for what Uranus has caused me in recent years...[the most recent being the conj. to my 'Part of Damage' {Asc. +
-
} and 'Part of Surgery' {Asc. +
-
} in March/April 2012 when I needed emergency surgery on that very day for the reason being of damage to my colon. The small section removed had a number of signs of, very possibly, becoming cancerous in just a few years.]
is derived from Asc. + - 
which is the opposite of the formula for this 'Part of Speculation/Behest', Asc. + - .
With Neptune as the "Trigger" and Jupiter being the "Significator" I can see it as the imaginative faculties, the dream weaver within oneself [Neptune], giving rise to some dream of getting wealthy, gaining something desirous or possibly what could produce a desire to go out proselytizing, telling wondrous and beautiful tales about ones beliefs, ones religion [Jupiter].
I really don't believe that the Creator had cause to conceive of or the intent to create an astrological Part of Cancer or Malignancy.
As to what that formula utilizing Jupiter as to 'Trigger' Neptune... What would ones religion, philosophy, growth of wealth of material goods or knowledge then trigger the higher imaginative faculties, the higher octave of Venus and subsequently result in? Why not let's take a look at that Yeshu'a chart of mine and see?
So, in that "Yeshu'a" natal chart we find that, Asc. +
-
= 11*
57' 06"...which is the 12th degree of Virgo and to now try to understand this subsequent result the only hope we have is in the Sabian Symbol for VIRGO 12*: [ibid.]
"AFTER THE WEDDING, THE GROOM SNATCHES THE VEIL AWAY FROM HIS BRIDE.
KEYNOTE: The penetrating and unveiling power of the trained mind.
In contrast to the preceding symbol we have now a scene stressing a physical action with psychological and/or spiritual overtones. In ancient cosmologies the male god often appears in three roles as son, husband and father of the woman element of nature. Nature is fulfilled by the human mind and will that overcome her; she resists only better to be subdued by the power that transcends her, and by transcending her gives her a spiritual meaning. The element of 'training' in the symbolic scene comes from the fact that there has been a marriage ritual; thus the sociocultural factor is in the background. The teacher-guru is here the priest who has performed the ritual.
At this second stage the rules are reversed, the masculine element assuming the dynamic positive part in the great play of polarity. The masculine act balances the feminine dream visualization. The Keyword is UNVEILING. There can also be an unveiling of mysteries, long protected by secrecy."
Well if you consider that by the natal chart I have for Yeshu'a [in fact it is the aspect that led me to the time of day that Edgar Cayce gave for the birth] consists of a Pluto/Asc. conj. and that said conjunction bestows upon the native an ability to see the energies of all creation at work in the physical realm as to like having some sort of x-ray vision according to the Astrologers Handbook by Sakoian and Acker but as to which I like to use the simile of 'as like the character, Neo, in the movie the "Matrix", where he could see what was the makeup of the reality/illusion he saw'...then why would Yeshu'a's ability to see through the illusion be considered some sort of "Malignancy"?
Well, yes this ability was apparently growing in faculty for him and the, knowledge, the awareness of his possessing this ability was spreading among the peoples of near and was heading out afar... but really..."Malignancy"?
I have to call attention to Dane Rudhyar's "Keynote" words;
"The penetrating and unveiling power of the trained mind." ...would that be a mind that was schooled entirely by a community that followed the teachings of Melchizedek and for hundreds of years had passed these sacred teachings from generation to generation and in this process isolating themselves from the rest of their brethren as so markedly as to produce a different sect called "The Expectant", or more properly and in Hebrew as "The Essenes"?
The knowledge and teaching of Melchizedek is legendary for it being the knowledge, of that, which is veiled from worldly men.
So, I am pretty confident that the Part identified as a 'Part of Cancer/Malignancy' would be immeasurably more appropriately titled something derived from the analysis of examining the same Part from the Yeshu'a chart... yet one good piece of evidence may be enough to exonerate but is insufficient to establish much beyond that... [although, Phoenix Venus, you know how much faith I do have in the Yeshu'a chart as to be the ultimate litmus test for all matters of questions astrological about natal charts... so much so that I call it "The Template"...both bench mark and rosetta stone, in one.] ...The question being for the present is just what do we call it ..at least temporarily, if not permanently...?
The 'Part of Spiritual Insights and Understandings Derived From Ones Discipleship' ...? ...'Spiritual Acumen'...? hmmm....
"Perspicacity"....!!!
I like that one...
"The Part of Perspicacity"
How about it? We need to do a thread on these two Parts and see what others may be able to contribute...
So then if I were to consider my own result of 09*
39', i.e. the 10th degree of Aries as, not a Part of Malignancy but rather a 'Part of Perspicacity'
then does the Sabian Symbol for ARIES 10* support this notion?
[Merriam Webster defines Perspicacity as: "of having acute mental vision or discernment"]
[ibid.]
"A TEACHER GIVES NEW SYMBOLIC FORMS TO TRADITIONAL IMAGES.
KEYNOTE: Revision of attitude at the beginning of a new cycle of experience.
This phase is the fifth of the second five-fold sequence, and in it we find expressed the capacity to restate the problem inherent in the first phase, i.e. the problem of focusing one's energies upon emotional drives and cultural values which exclude far more than they include. The subsequent stages of development taken together have added considerably to this attitude; as a result, there arises in the consciousness a desire to reformulate at a new level much that had been taken for granted because it indeed originally had been an evolutionary necessity. The very concrete emotion-arousing images of the past can now be reinterpreted as 'symbols' with a wider scope of meaning.
At this fifth stage a new dimension of consciousness is discovered, revealing higher possibilities of experience and mental development. This is a phase of ABSTRACTION and of emotional allegiance. "
...and that is the very degree that the Moons true North Node was in on Dec 22nd, in 2005 the night I was invited to give an hours presentation of the Yeshu'a natal chart on a nationally broadcast radio program, "The Rick Barber Show" [R.I.P. Rick... Rick passed away last June 28th, not long after being diagnosed with and following complications from amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, known as Lou Gehrig's disease. He was 67.]...and the 10th degree of Aries , as we know, is the Part of Transformation and also the location of the Part of Liberty, derived from the zero hour USA natal chart.
As I was doing precisely that... i.e. giving new meaning and understanding to the traditional symbols of Astrology and introducing a newly rediscovered set, r.e., the Sabian Symbols, to listeners across the United States and providing multiple examples of supporting evidence as to their veracity through the Yeshu'a chart, my own chart and those of persons that are well recognized publicly and more immediately identifiable.
Is it "Perspicacity", in the literal sense of the word and do I have it in regard to an ability to be a 'Teacher' giving new understandings to... as Rudhyar put it..."
images of the past {which}
can now be reinterpreted as 'symbols' with a wider scope of meaning... {and unveiling and announcing that}
a new dimension of consciousness is discovered, revealing higher possibilities of experience and mental development."?
Well... I certainly do pray that I have given some iota of all of that to at least a few people in these last 9 years and I hope and
I pray that others will see the true knowledge and understanding of what I've been "Teaching" inspite of my Part of Naivete being the 11th degree of Libra and being Sabian Symbolized as [ibid.] "
A PROFESSOR PEERING OVER HIS GLASSES AT HIS STUDENTS.
KEYNOTE: Problems attending the transmission of knowledge in a special cultural setup."
Which does indicate that as for me
as to how to be a "Teacher" and as to how to transfer...transmit... my knowledge and understanding [which is so highly abstract in nature]
to others is something that is to be regarded as the one thing I haven't the least bit of a "Clue" as to how to do...most especially so as to Occidental culture and of a true 'Science', albeit a noble and ancient science long forgotten, and much corrupted so as to become regarded as nonsense and even worse, by some, as taboo.
