PrecBund
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Hi Tikana
Thank you for taking the time to reply, I do wish this had of been our first conversation so I do apologise I only want to learn. I’m afraid I just ask with little thought of whether or not the one with knowledge actually wants to answer. To that end I admit I’m a dry sponge in a puddle so to speak when it comes to learning and again I apologise.
As for the mind boggled over Saturn – could it be that Saturn in the 1st the reader of the chart needed to be on alert, for discrepancies and I simply wasn’t. I didn’t really resonate with Saturn I felt more Jupiter but Lilly recommended otherwise. I was interested in knowing the answer but not desperate could that explain the heavy Rx aspect in the 1st house. Did I place the question in the wrong house, did I interpret something wrong etc, could any of these explain Saturn?
The question was about meeting (accidental or planned I didn’t specify) it was just a pure “will I meet him.” Nor did I specify any parameters on communication first; I kind of skipped that and just got straight to the point because in meeting a friendship would either develop or be of pure circumstance and we would continue on our own merry ways. Is this kind of question inherently too vague, does it require more structure?
On that note does hoping to meet someone place the question in the 11th vs. the 7th given it is the one of hopes and aspirations? The only link to the 4th house I can think of is the ‘end of the matter.’ The only other house Saturn could relate to would be the 2nd and that doesn’t fit the question at all. But I’m sincerely interested in knowing how you came to the Saturn aspect being a potential for the questied. Going forward how would I determine if the question Significators are correct is there a process i.e. the chart doesn’t make sense; can you even change the question placement, once you realise an error?
As for physical attraction if you’re referring to “who’s most interested” that was in reference to the questied as 7th L (person unknown to me) placed in the 1st house using the Placidus system. I don’t think the term is solely for physical attraction but rather who is the more interested party on the subject matter. But in terms of my question believe me I didn’t buy it either, it was simply not plausible hence the immense confusion. Felt twilight zone to be honest.
The secret/lies you mention, could that be about a different matter altogether. More like an appendix from the universe so to speak perhaps a warning of something in my own backyard? Or would it only have pertained to the question. Interestingly those unanswered messages disappeared this morning. Don’t know if that counts. I even questioned myself; was I subconsciously elsewhere if you (and perhaps others) thought I was asking a romantic question maybe the universe did too? But no I am steadfast I am a slow burn to love and while friendship was a nice cherry if he was indeed nice it wasn’t a must have. We might have hated each other.
I have no idea as to why the moon is aspecting the 5th L she is in Rx so moving towards the Moon could it be something about my future 5th house be coming towards me; things outside of the question? It is on the axis with the 11th could that have anything to do with it, given the 11th and its connotations surrounding fate and behind the scenes (you mentioned I am unaware of something) with the 11th L being active? The part of fortune and vertex conjunct in the 5th and Aldebaran is perfectly aspected with Venus, another appendix perhaps? Or could it just be his 11th and nothing to do with me.
All the comments about the Sun and the Moon are way above my current pay grade so I’m going to have to research the wool off those. Your information has been incredibly insightful on the nuisances that are so very easily overlooked.
If you’re inclined to do so I would be grateful if you wouldn’t mind elaborating on these comments, if you chose not to that’s okay you have already given me so much more food for thought. Thank you for that.
“there was def you don’t know something” do you mean in terms of the question? Is this in reference to my 12th L? Do you know which house I should look to in order to find those answers; I really don’t like being blind sighted.
“there was def subtone on his side” is that application worthwhile in Horary going forward, is it something I should seriously commit to memory. (An honest question please don’t be offended I would like your honest answer). Does this mean the chart is difficult to read? Do you have any ideas on why the subtone’s were so one sided, does this happen often? Or could it be unrelated to the questied and more about the secretive/lies undertones you picked up on.
Because you mentioned it I’ve just purchased Stephen Arroyo’s book Chart Interpretation Handbook and will re-read William Lilly’s 1 and 3 in much slower and finite detail.
“way too much to dismiss a casual communication” are you linking this to the subtone? While the chart has spoken a no, do the subtones add a layer of no casual communication either, just to give finality to the answer so to speak?
Going forward for future reference what could I do better?
