JUPITERASC
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http://www.skyscript.co.uk/dig5.html
according to William Lilly it's a - 2 for slow in motion
and stationary is not moving at all
In Mutual Reception You Switch Signs?
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according to William Lilly it's a - 2 for slow in motion
and stationary is not moving at all
Julian
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According to the chart you posted
natal Moon is located in 3rd House
one degree away from IC
When a planet is 5 degrees away from the next house it's considered to be a planet in the next house for the most part. Also please reply to your quote. I don't think you forgot that Moon and Saturn weren't making any aspect considering you regarded their exact position.
JUPITERASC
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Notice I said
BUT
unfortunately this natal Saturn is also Peregrine
Saturn at 3 Taurus having no essential dignity at all
QUOTE
A Planet is then said to be Peregrine,
when he is in the degrees of any Sign wherein he hath no essential dignity,
As Saturn in the tenth degree of Aries,
that Sign being not his House, Exaltation, or of his Triplicity,
or he having in that degree neither Term or Face,
he is then said to be Peregrine;
had he been in 27, 28, &c. of Aries, he could not be termed Peregrine,
because then he is in his own Term. William Lilly, Christian Astrology, p.112
'....Just as essential dignity signifies strength and a capacity for beneficial action,
lack of it implies weakness or a harmful disposition.
A planet with no essential dignity is called Peregrine,
a Latin word meaning 'alien' or 'foreigner'
pereger = beyond the borders,
ager = land, i.e., 'beyond one's own land'.
In old English, to 'peregrinate' means to wander far from home....'
'....In symbolic terms, a peregrine planet describes a drifter
- someone with no title or stake in his or her environment.
It's helpful to think in terms of property
because
Property owners tend to view drifters with suspicion, and distrust their lack of stability.
Peregrine planets share this dubious reputation ....' http://www.skyscript.co.uk/dig4.html
HOW TO READ THIS TABLE http://www.skyscript.co.uk/dig2.html
JUPITERASC
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As already explained
even if the two planets under discussion were in mutual reception
(and they are not)
Mutual Reception CANNOT "Switch Signs"
OP question is answered
even if the two planets under discussion were in mutual reception
(and they are not)
Mutual Reception CANNOT "Switch Signs"
Bunraku
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Here you go. Julian's chart
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=52443&d=1425246787
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=52443&d=1425246787
Julian
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Okey-dokey.
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JUPITERASC
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Oddity
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Julian, you're grasping at straws here. You really are. But I can kind of admire your tenacity, while also wondering why you don't print out a blank chart form and put the planets where you **** well want them once and for all.
It's a thought, yes?
Julian
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Julian, you're grasping at straws here. You really are. But I can kind of admire your tenacity, while also wondering why you don't print out a blank chart form and put the planets where you **** well want them once and for all.
It's a thought, yes?
Nah. I am entitled to my own opinion. I say they're in mutual reception aswell as the Moon being in the 4th house. I won't just put a blank chart where everything is okay. Solar Fire Gold is like Google. It never lies. And Solar Fire Gold says what it is. Also somebody (avoiding personal attack lols) always comes to burst my bubble.
Mutual reception:
"A type of reception in which two planets appear in the sign of the other's domicile. An example would be Mars in Gemini and Mercury in Aries. Planets in mutual reception are generally strengthen each other, unless one or both is weakened in some way. In horary and traditional astrology, for example, Saturn in Cancer in mutual reception with the moon in Capricorn would be less helpful. Even though these planets exchange the signs of their domiciles, both appear in the signs of their detriment."
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Oddity
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You must erase this, it defeats your argument. Quickly!
JUPITERASC
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Note that the example of mutual reception you just posted
is of two planets in sextile aspect
but not in domicile
note that Saturn in Cancer and Moon in Capricorn are in aspect
JUPITERASC
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Julian, very important to keep in mind that I'm no expert
and do take note of Oddity's excellent advice
and do take note of Oddity's excellent advice
Julian
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Note that the example of mutual reception you just posted
is of two planets in sextile aspect
but not in domicile
note that Saturn in Cancer and Moon in Capricorn are in aspect
Have you ever heard of the quincunx?
Julian
Banned
No. They're in each other's sign of exaltation. It's also a valid form of mutual reception.
"Mutual reception is not limited to exchange of the signs of dignity of rulership. Ancient and medieval astrologers gave equal force to mutuality obtained by planets being in each other's signs of exaltation—for example, Jupiter in Taurus in a chart where the Moon is in Cancer. Jupiter is exalted in the sign of Cancer; Moon is exalted in the sign of Taurus"
JUPITERASC
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Julian
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planets quincunx are not in traditional aspect
So? It's still an aspect. It's been verified that it actually works, otherwise nobody would use that. There are tons of articles that regard the quincunx as a major aspect and it is very powerful.
JUPITERASC
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i.e. not in each other's signs of domicile
notice that Jupiter in Taurus is in aspect with Moon in Cancer