waybread
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So here are my 2c on the subject.
First off, anyone living in a modern country today does not have to be celibate if s/he doesn't want to be. What with all of the dating apps, holiday destinations known for their pick-up possibilities, bars, sex-for-hire, and so on.
So I have to assume that you're Not That Kind of Girl (or Guy-- you haven't said.) Obviously you could have had casual sex at multiple points over the past 25 years or so, but chose not to. Possibly you want a deeper, more permanent connection with someone before jumping into bed with him/her.
The first thing that jumps out at me is your Saturn in the first house of one's body and outward personality-- and conjunct your ascendant. Thus also opposed to your descendant. Saturn rules limitations of various kinds. You may feel that there is something essentially limited or wrong about you. Your Saturn is angular and in-sect (though below the horizon) but has no essential dignity. So he's not helping you out much here.
We pick up more Saturn with your moon-Jupiter in Capricorn, the moon in detriment and Jupiter in its fall. I would guess that you're not the impulsive follow-your-heart kind of bon vivant/e. I see you as someone with enormous self-discipline-- to a fault, perhaps?
This is consistent with what I infer from your posts, that you feel limited or constrained by your celibacy.
Venus rules your 7th house. She's in Libra (great) but in the terms of Saturn and square your moon-Jupiter in Capricorn (more Saturn.) The 12th house is not a terrific placement for relationship-oriented Venus in Libra. The 12th deals with people who are shut-in in some way, ranging from a voluntary sequestering of oneself or membership in a religious order that sequesters its members, to people who are hospitalized or even imprisoned. Our 12th house planets are often ciphers to us, although they may be perfectly clear to everyone around us.
Mars is the other sexy planet. It has no essential dignity and squares your sun and Mercury. It is ruled by Jupiter, which loops us back to Saturn.
So the bad news is that you're 45 wondering why you're celibate. The good news is that you've avoided the kinds of sexual relationships that you wouldn't have wanted in the first place. Even where you may be tempted to indulge in a 5th house fling or an arranged marriage, you hold back, perhaps knowing it isn't what you want in a sexual relationship.
I agree that not everything in our lives has an astrological explanation. Skin color and birth nationality, for example. If you look through your past, you may develop further understanding as to why you remain celibate. Sometimes children have been sexually assaulted or been exposed to inappropriate sex, and grow up fearful of sex. Sometimes they had a strict background (usually but not necessarily religious) that taught them that sex was bad and wrong outside of marriage.
Further, I wonder if you might have sublimated that domiciled Venus into some other Venusian activity like playing a musical instrument, writing poetry, or reading.
Virgo is an earthy earth sign, but it is a perfectionist, and if you're looking for love, you may not have found someone who (a) reciprocates and who (b) meets your standards.
You also wrote:
While I might dispute this astrologically, if you are saying what I think you are saying, you might benefit from counseling. Especially if you have got a back-story of exposure to childhood sexual abuse or a super-strict upbringing, counseling might be helpful.
Lostinstars, I actually see your chart as perfectly fine and OK. Many religious orders require a vow of celibacy. In the past, an unmarried woman of any age would have been criticized severely if she lost her chastity. This is just to put you in a wider perspective.
The one thing I see is that with your NN in your 8th house, which rules the sex organs, is that your personal growth may come from engaging in some sexual activity with a considerate person. I cannot promise that it would go brilliantly. But you are emotionally strong enough and mature enough to handle whatever it brings.
With all good wishes, W.
First off, anyone living in a modern country today does not have to be celibate if s/he doesn't want to be. What with all of the dating apps, holiday destinations known for their pick-up possibilities, bars, sex-for-hire, and so on.
So I have to assume that you're Not That Kind of Girl (or Guy-- you haven't said.) Obviously you could have had casual sex at multiple points over the past 25 years or so, but chose not to. Possibly you want a deeper, more permanent connection with someone before jumping into bed with him/her.
The first thing that jumps out at me is your Saturn in the first house of one's body and outward personality-- and conjunct your ascendant. Thus also opposed to your descendant. Saturn rules limitations of various kinds. You may feel that there is something essentially limited or wrong about you. Your Saturn is angular and in-sect (though below the horizon) but has no essential dignity. So he's not helping you out much here.
We pick up more Saturn with your moon-Jupiter in Capricorn, the moon in detriment and Jupiter in its fall. I would guess that you're not the impulsive follow-your-heart kind of bon vivant/e. I see you as someone with enormous self-discipline-- to a fault, perhaps?
This is consistent with what I infer from your posts, that you feel limited or constrained by your celibacy.
Venus rules your 7th house. She's in Libra (great) but in the terms of Saturn and square your moon-Jupiter in Capricorn (more Saturn.) The 12th house is not a terrific placement for relationship-oriented Venus in Libra. The 12th deals with people who are shut-in in some way, ranging from a voluntary sequestering of oneself or membership in a religious order that sequesters its members, to people who are hospitalized or even imprisoned. Our 12th house planets are often ciphers to us, although they may be perfectly clear to everyone around us.
Mars is the other sexy planet. It has no essential dignity and squares your sun and Mercury. It is ruled by Jupiter, which loops us back to Saturn.
So the bad news is that you're 45 wondering why you're celibate. The good news is that you've avoided the kinds of sexual relationships that you wouldn't have wanted in the first place. Even where you may be tempted to indulge in a 5th house fling or an arranged marriage, you hold back, perhaps knowing it isn't what you want in a sexual relationship.
I agree that not everything in our lives has an astrological explanation. Skin color and birth nationality, for example. If you look through your past, you may develop further understanding as to why you remain celibate. Sometimes children have been sexually assaulted or been exposed to inappropriate sex, and grow up fearful of sex. Sometimes they had a strict background (usually but not necessarily religious) that taught them that sex was bad and wrong outside of marriage.
Further, I wonder if you might have sublimated that domiciled Venus into some other Venusian activity like playing a musical instrument, writing poetry, or reading.
Virgo is an earthy earth sign, but it is a perfectionist, and if you're looking for love, you may not have found someone who (a) reciprocates and who (b) meets your standards.
You also wrote:
A person with a very strong Mercury can be overtaken by voyeuristic fantasies showing less inclination to particpate in the sexual act itself.
While I might dispute this astrologically, if you are saying what I think you are saying, you might benefit from counseling. Especially if you have got a back-story of exposure to childhood sexual abuse or a super-strict upbringing, counseling might be helpful.
Lostinstars, I actually see your chart as perfectly fine and OK. Many religious orders require a vow of celibacy. In the past, an unmarried woman of any age would have been criticized severely if she lost her chastity. This is just to put you in a wider perspective.
The one thing I see is that with your NN in your 8th house, which rules the sex organs, is that your personal growth may come from engaging in some sexual activity with a considerate person. I cannot promise that it would go brilliantly. But you are emotionally strong enough and mature enough to handle whatever it brings.
With all good wishes, W.
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