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Re: Escape! From the Cult of Materialism

Why do people shun you for wanting stuff.

It's so annoying.

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Materialism has made life on Earth tremendously better.

Materialism > Spirituality any day.

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That's obviously you.
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Re: Escape! From the Cult of Materialism

Honestly, it doesn't even matter.

I'll become a millionaire in a mansion.

You can go conserve with God in your mud hut.
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For everyone on this thread, can I have all your stuff? I'll gladly take it off your hands.
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Materialism > Spirituality any day.
For the past 100 years SCIENCE has debunked philosophy of Materialism and it continues to do so almost daily.

Whether you realize it or not, all you have is your BELIEF in Materialism. You are a religious person and your religion is MATERIALISM.



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Re: Escape! From the Cult of Materialism

Your little article just said that our consciousness resides in another dimension. That doesn't mean stop getting stuff.

Having wealth makes your life better.

My head is not buried in the sand.
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What's the point of living on Earth if we can't enjoy living on Earth?

If we live in a material world, why are we bothering with spirituality?

I'd rather drive a nice car than talk to God or connect with the universe. Cuz I'll connect with the universe when I'll die anyway.

I probably won't ever be able to drive a nice car in my existence again.

People who are unhappy with their materials are people who are UNGRATEFUL and don't realize what they have.

Materialism lets me talk on the internet to you. It's because of materialism, I have a macbook pro and I can type on a thin nice *** keyboard really fast. It's because of materialism I can live longer. It's because of materialism, I can do everything way easier.

If materialism is a religion, then I'm proud of my belief.
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I don't really consider that materialism...maybe materialistic.

But I agree with what you said - mostly - anyhow.
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It's nice to have someone mostly agree with me for once.
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What's the point of living on Earth if we can't enjoy living on Earth?

If we live in a material world, why are we bothering with spirituality?

I'd rather drive a nice car than talk to God or connect with the universe. Cuz I'll connect with the universe when I'll die anyway.

I probably won't ever be able to drive a nice car in my existence again.

People who are unhappy with their materials are people who are UNGRATEFUL and don't realize what they have.

Materialism lets me talk on the internet to you. It's because of materialism, I have a macbook pro and I can type on a thin nice *** keyboard really fast. It's because of materialism I can live longer. It's because of materialism, I can do everything way easier.

If materialism is a religion, then I'm proud of my belief.
Rejecting the philosophy of Materialism doesn't mean that we shouldn't organize society in such way that is more comfortable and enjoyable for everyone. It doesn't mean stopping all progress and research. It just means setting our priorities straight, leaving the "competition paradigm" to the past, where it belongs. Society where people are racing to acquire "material stuff" beyond any measure, what can't be used in 10 lifetimes is just plain stupid, it doesn't matter from what angle you look at it.
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Rejecting the philosophy of Materialism doesn't mean that we shouldn't organize society in such way that is more comfortable and enjoyable for everyone.
Yes it does.

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It doesn't mean stopping all progress and research. It just means setting our priorities straight, leaving the "competition paradigm" to the past, where it belongs.
Without competition and abandoning the "cult" of materialism means no comfort, less wealth, and lack of technological advancement in society.

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Society where people are racing to acquire "material stuff" beyond any measure, what can't be used in 10 lifetimes is just plain stupid, it doesn't matter from what angle you look at it.
The wealth that our ancestors created was passed down to us. And when we die, our wealth will be passed down to future generations.

Racing to acquire wealth is extremely important for those who want to live comfortably, happily, and better than everyone else.

Materialism is the reason we aren't like Africa.
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The Material world is just the lowest vibratory frequency of the Spiritual world.
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Materialism is the reason we aren't like Africa.
Materialism is the reason Africa is devastated.
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If we live in a material world...
You see, that's the problem with your cult-like belief system. We don't live in a material world, that's been proven by science. We just call it by that name in lack of a better term.

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The Material world is just the lowest vibratory frequency of the Spiritual world.
Correct enough. I would put it that both are vibratory frequencies of the same "something" (you can call it whatever you want).
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Materialism is the reason Africa is devastated.
Well obviously you have something mixed up because materialism/capitalism in America has made us rich.
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I'd rather drive a nice car than talk to God or connect with the universe. Cuz I'll connect with the universe when I'll die anyway.
What makes you think death will be the exception to your experiences?
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There's a difference between enjoying the material plane and being a slave to materialism.
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What makes you think death will be the exception to your experiences?
What do you mean? I live in a material world so I'm going to live materialistically. ONce I die and go to wherever, I don't even know, then I'll live spiritually because I'll be in the spiritual world.

It doesn't make sense to pursue spirituality when we live a material world. If I can touch, see, hear, taste, smell this world that is material... then I want to do what I can to enjoy how I how I sense this world.

I have no senses that allow me to sense any other dimensions or planes or spirituality.

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There's a difference between enjoying the material plane and being a slave to materialism.
Being a slave to materialism is enjoying materialism. To live on Earth, in a sense, is hard work. We are constantly working to make our lives more enjoyable and comfortable.

If you don't want to be a slave to materialism then kill yourself. I'm not saying that you, specifically, should. I'm saying in general. To be alive is to be materialistic. To dead is to be one with the spirits. If you want spirituality instead of pursuing material possessions and see no use for them and see no point in enjoying them, then seriously just kill yourself. What's the point in living a life of materialism if you don't believe in materialism.
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Re: Escape! From the Cult of Materialism

Our society and culture are materialist, esp. since the 1980s and probably the 1950s when consumerism took off. Millennials are increasingly anti-materialist, they live in less prosperous times and are less prosperous than the Baby boom generation before them. We had the worst recession in 80 years (2008-11) vs. the Great Depression (1929-41), so we're changing the way we want things or stuff. I find it ironic the Boomers were in the anti-materialist phase (hippies in the 1960s/70s) rejected their parents' enjoyment of prosperity, then grew up to adults (yuppies in the 1980s/90s) whom were obsessed with money or material goods. And we have the widest income disparity since the 1920s, the middle class have began to view themselves as the "new poor" and materialism will be abandoned as well rejected by Millennials unable to pursue an affluent lifestyle.
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Another day in paradise
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Materialism is what keeps people out of poverty.

To think otherwise is plain stupidity.
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Materialism is what keeps people out of poverty.

To think otherwise is plain stupidity.
Materialists are Spiritually impoverished, because the Material world is the ghetto of the Spiritual world.
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