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Re: Why do they say Aquarius/Uranus create astrology?

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The Muses were very real to the ancient Greeks. The question was, why Aquarius and its Domicle-ruler would be considered responsible for creating astrology. That's where Urania() comes in, and, as Goddess of the Heavens, is a perfect fit for the constellation Aquarius, which is about pouring out meteor showers.
I'm using the ancient name "Urania()" in place of "Uranus", which is a modern, made up name, never actually used in ancient times. And, as the Muse of astrology, Urania() inspired the creation of astrology.
If a pop astrology website claimed that Mercury is the ruler of Gemini, would that be a reason to doubt it?
I have no problem with Mercury going with Gemini. Merc moves fast but never moves too far away from the Sun, indicating short travel. Merc also comes from Hermes, the Messenger of the Gods. Hermes is notorious for his trickery behavior too. Gemini being the ruler of Merc is reasonable in my opinion. I actually have more problem with Virgo ruling Merc. Virgo is too cautious and enthical to represent the God of thieves.


One thing I find baffling is how NN is exalted in Gemini. I think either Scorpio or Pisces fits the role better, seeing that NN represents the higher self and pulling away from your past.

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I have no problem with Mercury going with Gemini. Merc moves fast but never moves too far away from the Sun, indicating short travel. Merc also comes from Hermes, the Messenger of the Gods. Hermes is notorious for his trickery behavior too. Gemini being the ruler of Merc is reasonable in my opinion. I actually have more problem with Virgo ruling Merc. Virgo is too cautious and enthical to represent the God of thieves.


One thing I find baffling is how NN is exalted in Gemini. I think either Scorpio or Pisces fits the role better, seeing that NN represents the higher self and pulling away from your past.
Good, you're a "free thinker" like myself. We respect what has been generally agreed upon from the past, but reserve the right to decide for ourselves, using logic and intuition.
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Re: Why do they say Aquarius/Uranus create astrology?

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I have no problem with Mercury going with Gemini. Merc moves fast but never moves too far away from the Sun, indicating short travel. Merc also comes from Hermes, the Messenger of the Gods. Hermes is notorious for his trickery behavior too. Gemini being the ruler of Merc is reasonable in my opinion. I actually have more problem with Virgo ruling Merc. Virgo is too cautious and enthical to represent the God of thieves.


One thing I find baffling is how NN is exalted in Gemini. I think either Scorpio or Pisces fits the role better, seeing that NN represents the higher self and pulling away from your past.
Virgo doesn't rule Mercury. Signs don't rule planets, it's the other way around. Technically we would call planets domiciled when they are in the sign they rule.

Each of the planets has a mythological and cultural history. The Sumerian goddess Nisaba (or Nidaba) was credited with counting and writing. She was the goddess of scribes, and writing is a Mercurial function. Among the things Nisaba counted were grain stores, probably the form of tribute or taxes paid to support ancient city states. Virgo to this day rules grain and places where grain is stored. The goddess also recorded stars, on a lapis lazuli tablet.

Over time, and the supplanting of the Sumerians by subsequent cultures like the Babylonians, the goddess merely became the wife of the god Nabu, who morphed into the Greek god Hermes and the Roman god Mercury as astrology diffused from Mesopotamia into southern Europe.

He didn't invent it but Ptolemy popularized the idea signs and planetary rulers were organized with distance from the sun and moon, and with time from the equinox (0 Cancer) and hottest month of the year (Leo.) Read the left column down and the right column up.

sun(Leo).................moon (Cancer)
Mercury (Virgo).......(Gemini)
Venus (Libra)..........(Taurus)
Mars (Scorpio)........(Aries)
Jupiter (Sagittarius)..(Pisces)
Saturn (Capricorn)...(Aquarius)
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Re: Why do they say Aquarius/Uranus create astrology?

I don't see the NN as representing your "higher self" (for which a big argument could be made against Scorpio,) but as showing where your personal growth lies.
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