Concerning children... (birth chart interpretation help)

MissVenus

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Hello all!

I read a lot of topics in this section and I have a question of my own now.
What are the outlooks of me having children, and, if possible when?
(I'm not asking this in a horary way, I have just been told that that might happen later in life.)

LINK to a large image of the chart.

My 5th house is in Taurus, which is good, but Venus is in Gemini, and combust, I think.
Venus is also opposed Saturn and Uranus, which is not that great, I guess.
Moon is in Gemini, almost unaspected (maybe technically unaspected completely).

So based on all that, chances are slim?

As always, any help is always most welcome.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Hello all!

I read a lot of topics in this section and I have a question of my own now.
What are the outlooks of me having children, and, if possible when?
(I'm not asking this in a horary way, I have just been told that that might happen later in life.)

LINK to a large image of the chart.

My 5th house is in Taurus, which is good, but Venus is in Gemini, and combust, I think.
Venus is also opposed Saturn and Uranus, which is not that great, I guess.
Moon is in Gemini, almost unaspected (maybe technically unaspected completely).

So based on all that, chances are slim?

As always, any help is always most welcome.

There's a Medieval astrology method that you may find interesting
of DELINEATING CHILDREN IN A NATAL CHART
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49614 :smile:


 

MissVenus

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Thank you, JUPITERASC :)
I'm reading the topic you linked and so far, I have Venus in 7th house (that's the lord of my 5th), but it's in barren sign and (I think, I'm not sure) combust.
Mercury is also combust and in 8th, so I don't think it matters here.
Moon in 6th, in Gemini, also bad.
Pars Filorum is in 10th house, so that's good, in Libra, but then again, Venus is in barren sign.
That's why I always end up in a loop and can't figure it out.

Venus (ruler of 5th) in 7th, in Gemini. Mercury (dispositor) is in Cancer, and Moon (its dispositor) is in Gemini. Freakin' loop. :pinched:

I am prepared for whatever the interpretation is, positive or negative.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Thank you, JUPITERASC :)
I'm reading the topic you linked and so far, I have Venus in 7th house (that's the lord of my 5th), but it's in barren sign and (I think, I'm not sure) combust.
Mercury is also combust and in 8th, so I don't think it matters here.
Moon in 6th, in Gemini, also bad.
Pars Filorum is in 10th house, so that's good, in Libra, but then again, Venus is in barren sign.
That's why I always end up in a loop and can't figure it out.

Venus (ruler of 5th) in 7th, in Gemini. Mercury (dispositor) is in Cancer, and Moon (its dispositor) is in Gemini. Freakin' loop. :pinched:

I am prepared for whatever the interpretation is, positive or negative.
Good that you found the link useful :smile:

~ let's check the malefics

malefics are also known as 'infortunes', these are planets that naturally symbolise damage and loss.
Traditionally these are Saturn, the 'Greater Malefic'
and
Mars, the 'Lesser Malefic'.
Both are extreme in nature: Saturn being cold and dry,
and
Mars exceeding in heat.

If the natural malefics are positively placed in the chart,
well dignified, strong in position and involved in good aspects,
their influence may be beneficial rather than afflicting

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/gl/malefics.html

Venus is in opposition to Saturn
 

MissVenus

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Well, I didn't calculate the Pars Filorum right :(
It's in my 8th house, in Leo, so barren again.
Oh, fun, it's right next to Lilith :pinched:

Following instructions from this topic
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28962

Lot of Sons: 2°47' Libra
Lot of Daughters: 23°8' Sagittarius
Lot of time of children: 14°33' Virgo

Sooo, when Jupiter aspects the Lot of time of children, that is a good time for conception?

It's really late and I'm really tired, so forgive me if my posts make little sense.
 
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JUPITERASC

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the thread linked to also advises that if there are any aspects to malefics
then to check if there is any mutual reception
:smile:

here's a TABLE OF THE ESSENTIAL DIGNITIES OF THE PLANETS
(there are various alternatives - this is one that is well known)

HOW TO READ THIS TABLE
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/dig2.html

dignities2.gif


According to the above table then,
Venus at 15 Gemini is in Saturn's Triplicity
and using the Egyptian Terms
Saturn at 16 Sagittarius is in Venus Terms

so there is mutual reception but not the strongest possible
although arguably any mutual reception is better than none :smile:

EGYPTIAN TERMS

egyptianterms.gif
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Well, I didn't calculate the Pars Filorum right :(
It's in my 8th house, in Leo, so barren again.
Oh, fun, it's right next to Lilith :pinched:

Following instructions from this topic
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28962

Lot of Sons: 2°47' Libra
Lot of Daughters: 23°8' Sagittarius
Lot of time of children: 14°33' Virgo

Sooo, when Jupiter aspects the Lot of time of children, that is a good time for conception?

It's really late and I'm really tired, so forgive me if my posts make little sense.
Delineating any natal chart takes many hours if done reliably
so let's take some time to check this out :smile:

by the way it is possible to work with the potential for conception
astro.com has an Extended Chart Selection Page
on that page if one selects "special charts"
then chooses "Lunar Phases Fertility Calendar" from the drop down menu
days are listed for each month
when conception is optimised by the fertility cycle
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member


There is an astrological method that can - by focusing on your most fertile five days each month - be helpful in predicting the particular five days each month when you may be most likely to conceive


Having created your free natal chart on astro.com then select Extended Chart Selection page and choose “special charts”. Scroll down the pop up menu (that appears when you click on the small triangle) and you'll notice the last choice is “Lunar Phases Fertility Calendar” - select that and then click to show the chart. That displays a twelve month calendar with your likely conception dates - based on your astrological information.

Your most likely Conception dates are indicated in red. Either a Venus or a Mars logo above each area accentuated in red indicates whether a child conceived at that time is likely either girl or boy

The idea is Venus = Girl
Mars = Boy :smile:
also
On that thread you posted, Olivia links to this page
CAN ASTROLOGY BRING YOU A BABY?
http://skyscript.co.uk/harris.html
 

MissVenus

Well-known member
by the way it is possible to work with the potential for conception
astro.com has an Extended Chart Selection Page
on that page if one selects "special charts"
then chooses "Lunar Phases Fertility Calendar" from the drop down menu
I have been following that for about 6 months now :)

I also dug up the chart interpretation I received a long long time ago, when I personally knew even less about astrology than I do now.

Basically, the person told me that I don't have the strongest chart for producing my own children, but there is a possibility of having children through my partner.
(I guess that would be with a surrogate mother? Or adoption? I'm not clear on that one.)
But, Venus does oppose Saturn rx and that does absolutely no good for fertility.
There might be a tiny chance of conceiving after the Saturn returns, so I was told.

Many years have passed since that interpretation and since I'm approaching the return of the Saturn, I can't help but ask for help on this matter.
 

MissVenus

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I stumbled on this paragraph concerning Ve-Sa opposition.

Saturn usually indicates where we have limitation in life. This MAY be an external sort of limitation (to Venus, love coming late, for instance) but USUALLY it is an internally-imposed sense of limitation. The person may harbor unconscious disapproval about themselves, a sense of shame or unworthiness ...
answers yahoo com

Could this fertility problem be caused by myself blocking myself?
Are there any aspects in the chart that can show this?

As always, a big thank you to all who take the time to help :)
 
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