Excerpt from Frawley The Horary Textbook. If you have lent/paid (given money for goods) to someone it is now that person's money. If you ask will he/she (the institution) repay me for whatever reason it is that person/place of business' 2nd house that is of interest. Page 183 2nd paragraph; 2nd house from the 9th.
Vyri
Hello Vyri,
For many of us on the AW site, we have grown increasingly skeptical of Frawley. Just go to the sports section on AW and ask them what they think of Frawley - the false prophet !
That said, I don't dislike Frawley. He may even be likeable. It's just that he tends to b.s. people ?
However, to answer your comment above, not always, Vyri !
I used to work in the credit card business, (fraud investigations) so I know what I speak about.
I don't have the time here to educate you folks about consumer law, since AW is read by readers in over 100 different countries around the world. But, in laymans terms, every country, and indeed, every merchant or business, has different rules on refunds, including educational institutions.
Therefore,
caveat emptor - let the buyer beware ! However, caveat emptor does not apply to countries with the Napoleonic code of justice (like in Africa?) or worse, the law of Hamurabi, 'an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth' or, '***** unto others' ?
If we had a uniform, ISO type refund standard in place around the world, then perhaps Frawley's statement could apply.
However, we don't. What is allowed in England is completely not allowable in other European countries or even in North America.
For those educational institutes that say NO REFUNDS allowed,
perhaps Frawley's rules could apply, but they don't apply everywhere.
However, I noticed that Frawley is a Sun in Gemini character with a few major planets in Taurus, so maybe HE is a "hard-*ss" when it comes to his OWN refunds for his OWN astrology courses ?
Meanwhile, Frawley seems to bend the rules of horary astrology to suite his OWN political or business agenda, so that is really nice of him ? (NOT !)
We already know that Frawley has changed his mind, TWICE, on the rules of horary astrology regarding the chart's radicalness, or fitness to be judged.
First, he claimed in his book that the normal strictures applied to sports event charts. Then, a few years later, he proclaimed that "ANY sports event chart could be read, even with strictures against judgement in place."
Well, that's quite the backwards flip !
The reason that Frawley claimed that any horary chart can be judged is, in my mind, to milk more money from people and from his sports bets, pure and simple !
And now, based on a post in the AW sports section a few months back, Frawley has since back-flipped a second time, and now, he gamely admits that some rules of stricture need to apply.
He even goes on to say that people ask too many sports horary questions, generally, of an inconsequential nature. Therefore, not all sports charts can be delineated.
Well, it clear to me that Frawley suffers from Gemini-itis. namely the incessant changing of one's own mind ?
One of my mentors, the late astrologer Llewellyn George, said nearly the very same thing about horary querents in his book,
A to Z, Horoscope Maker and Delineator, more than 40 years ago !
Mr. George stated: (quote, page 738, Edition October 1977, A to Z) " All horary questions must stem from a personal equation. Unless a personal stake is involved, it would be unreasonable to expect the individual's passing curiousity to reflect the fortunes of two opponents or teams. A horary figure, to be valid, must be based on the significant moment of a crisis in experience. "
George goes on to say that exhibition games and contests are typically out of bounds and cannot be read.
But, here is the problem, folks. If you are going to peddle your book to the masses and media, as Frawley has done, don't "b.s." the public and call it THE BIBLE of HORARY, when it is merely a rehash of what William Lilly once said or even what Mr. George said !
Be honest with the public, folks...Integrity is generally lacking in today's astrology world and we need to teach the newcomers about a new ethical standard to astrology business.
Meanwhile, there is no uniformity with academic colleges, anymore, re: refunds. Some do and some don't.
However, if there IS the possibility of a refund, then obviously Frawley's comments would not apply at all.
At the time of the purchase, the consumer, (including our querent?) is supposed to understand in advance, the terms and conditions of the sale, but in MANY cases, consumers are lied to or not told the straight goods about refunds, a violation of local laws.
The main problem for consumers is that there is no standardization of refund rules and thus, there is huge confusion.
However, banks and big business want you to be confused, so you are easier to 'f' over and more easily robbed of your money ?
A student always has a prescribed period of time in which to ask for a refund for a course, whether paying with cash or any other instrument (unless there are no refunds).
After a period of time has passed, a pro-rated refund amount would then apply.
This is why the QUERENT'S 8th house would make sense for refunds, if the school's policy allowed for refunds.
So, did the querent pay for her course with a credit card, or with cash.
If PAID with her personal credit card, then the ruler of the 8th house ( would be compared with the ruler of the 1st house and judged accordingly.
If paid with cash, then it's a much more slippery slope and you have less rights as a consumer, pure and simple.
When you pay cash for something, kiss your cash goodbye, because you ain't gonna see it again !
Your chances of being f'ed over by the college are much greater when you pay cash.
THis is why many colleges are refusing credit cards as an instrument for purchases.
It's still about YOU, though, so the querent's 8th house of borrowed money still applies.
The 2nd house from the 9th house is THEIR CASH, THEIR LOOT, and has nothing to do with YOUR LOOT !
Your loot is the horary 2nd house, or THE HORARY 8th house, as in other people who keep your loot, in trust or escrow or keep it for taxes purposes, or draw interest on it, by renting your LOOT to others (8th house).
have a great day,
HM