Pluto square Mars, Moon, Mercury, Followed by Sun... what else?!

Plutosquared

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I'm a beginner with my understanding of astrology, but I know that it's important to pay attention to Saturn and Pluto transits. Harsh Saturn aspects have been a problem in the last few years (conjunct my natal mars, moon, etc.) and at the beginning of this year, Pluto is squaring my natal moon and mars... with more squares in just the next few years...

I guess my question is, could anyone shine some light with a different perspective of what I'm facing here by taking a look at my chart, point me in some direction to better educate myself, etc. etc. :crying:

Already, the Pluto square Moon has sent for a loop... and I'm just not enjoying the ride, already.

Thanks in advance.

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4/7/82 @ 1:31 est time, Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
 
3things that immediately struck me about your chart
1) no planet in earth element or in earth houses to compensate
2) mars through to pluto ALL retrograde
3) see saw chart - lots of oppositions

Jupiter is also a singleton ie: only planet in fixed element, although fixed on Angles ie; Asc & MC

Singleton planets
“If a planet happens to be the only one in an element, quality, or house type, that planet is a Singleton and it can funnel all of the “energy” of the horoscope. This planet is often the most important one in the horoscope. In other words, if you just interpret the position of this one planet by sign, house, and aspect, you will get to the “heart of the horoscope”. The effect is the same as if that planet were the only one on one side of the chart.”
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/13.0Singletons.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/singleton.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-2334.html
(There is a book out by Shirley Lyons Meier, "Elemental Voids, More than Meets the Eye", which gives a good discussion of missing elements.) The Inferior Function can be a source of great motivation and creative expression.
http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/singletons/intro/singleton_intro.htm

Lack of elements http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html
http://www.astrology.aryabhatt.com/Astrology_Elements.asp
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/article.../inferior2.htm


Retrograde planets
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22923
http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-retrograde.htm
http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades
http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/retrogradeplanets.htm
http://www.cafeastrology.com/retrogrades.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5796&postcount=8
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5861&postcount=10
Pluto retrograde in scorpio above

With the See Saw pattern in which planets are grouped to form oppositions in a narrow range, two completely opposing types of experiences are calling and the individual feels just as compelled toward one as to the other. This creates such an awareness of conflict that a choice must be made to either find a happy medium or to wrestle continuously with opposing urges. The points of conflict will be found in the opposing houses and signs. Planets exactly opposite one another show extreme conflict and the individual may become caught up in an energy-consuming struggle. The entire ability to relate may be dependant on stimulation from the areas of conflict and the mind jumps automatically to these issues
http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/tutorial2.htm

See-saw chart
http://www.myastrologybook.com/hourglass-see-saw-planetary-pattern-astrology.htm
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=PjU1ZNw93JsC&pg=PT28&lpg=PT28&dq=astrology+see+saw+pattern&source=bl&ots=eAynpIbJV2&sig=y4WltImKK07p9WsWtb52MEe7u74&hl=en&ei=nosHTI2uGouI0wTD7p1w&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CDwQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q&f=false
 
I guess my question is, could anyone shine some light with a different perspective of what I'm facing here by taking a look at my chart, point me in some direction to better educate myself, etc. etc. :crying:

Already, the Pluto square Moon has sent for a loop... and I'm just not enjoying the ride, already

Transits
I use--- 1° approaching, 1° exact and 1° departing. If you click on the link listed below for the online ephemeris it will list all planets at any given time. Learning astrology is like learning a new ‘language’ and obviously the more effort you put into something the more your knowledge and understanding will increase. All transits act as ‘background’ influences through a house, until it makes a mathematical aspect to a planet inside or an Angle.

For 'timings' I would look to the retrograde hit as the most important trigger, then look to see what the quicker planets are doing especially mars & mercury --

astro.com has fee six month transit forecast plus when you get into Extended chart selection, look at the three tabs after calculating a chart under ‘method’ default is circular wheels (on left), middle is special charts and in their you get graphic ephemeris 1yr (or 5years) with natal = transits for 1yr and lots more. BUT you first must learn or memorise the 'glyphs' ie: shorthand for recognising what these maps/graphics mean.

For example when you post or reply to a chart the 'smilies' to the right and just under them [more] if you click on there it will bring up a whole loads of 'glyphs' Mercury Uranus conjunction (+or - 8') trine aspect 120' Libra
http://cafeastrology.com/transits.html
http://cafeastrology.com/transits_2.html
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/transits18.0.htm
http://www.astro.com/faq/fq_fh_transits_e.htm
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_transits_e.htm
http://www.astro.com/swisseph/ae/2000/ae_2009.pdf
http://www.khaldea.com/kldaephem/2000/oct2009gmt.shtml
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-glyphs.php
http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoundation/BookTransitsAndProgressions.htm

Now it's more important to focus on transits from Jupiter to Pluto (poss mars as this is the ignition key)and these planets when aspecting something in your natal chart 'set off' the difficult or nice 'aspects - potential - problems' that your chart expresses. By that I mean if a benefic planet like Jupiter hits/touches/transits your venus, mars or uranus these could be experienced very pleasantly. BUT if your natal venus is afflicted, or badly aspected say conj saturn then jupiter will not has such a good effect. It all depends on how the natal planet is 'aspected'

For me I would say external 'events' must be seen by transits, progressions or Solar arcs to Angles ie: Asc/Desc & MC/IC most other times these events are 'internal, psychological matters as in between the ears'

Now astro.com uses a much wider orb, possibly something like 5° or even 10° that’s why when you use the free transit forecast service a transit goes on for months and months. BUT common sense should tell you when the transit is ‘exact’ then it’s at the strongest. Some astrologers swear by 1° approaching produces ‘events’ some say the 1° exact, some say 1° off for triggering events. I personally look to the exact and 1° off for ‘timings’ especially the retrograde hit (backwards hit)

This last website link is rather nice because it gives interpretations of what the ‘Lord’ of the house cusp ruler means ie: T Jupiter sextiles natal sun, so wherever Leo rules in your chart is connected to the area this transit will be affecting –
http://www.astrology-x-files.com/transits/

So next March Pluto starts to square natal moon with getting upto 7'30" then retrogrades (goes backwards) January 2012 T Pluto properly hits 7'33" and this is year you will feel this energy more properly. End of July same year is retrograde hit and poss most important around those 3months --

At the same time T Satur will be 22' libra. These next two and half years is your 'Saturn return' period
Saturn Return
Saturn takes 30 years or so to complete its circuit around the zodiac so events that occur around the age of 29-30, 58-59 and 84-87 will be of great significance to the native, depending on the strength and aspects to natal saturn.
http://www.newage-directory.com/saturn.html
http://www.astrologycom.com/saturn.html
http://www.saturnreturn.net/what_is.html
http://www.examiner.com/x-2766-Atlan...-Saturn-return

http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/dysfunctional-saturn

You should feel this Saturn transit first before pluto hits. Same time T Uranus gets to 8' Aries and opposes natal moon at 9' Libra and this may well cause strained relations with mother, women and friendships
 
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Plutosquared

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Thank you astrologer50. I'm going to look through all of the links you listed.

The see-saw chart is the story of my life (obviously), and I'd like to think I've found a happy medium between the Aries-Libra (3rd and 9th house) oppositions; as I do see two sides to everything, but also having two impressions, two emotional reactions, and two motivations for everything - then spending the rest of your life deciding on what you're going to commit to, haha... (then finally commiting to something, and realizing it doesn't fit!)

And, not having planets in earth signs hasn't been good, either!

Before studying astrology and coming to understand myself better, I just felt conflicted. Now, I'm starting to "get it".

Also, the transit and ephermis on astro.com was very helpful! The transiting pluto square moon and mars really concerns me, and I've been trying to analyze my chart to figure out what to expect, in a feeble attempt at "bracing" for the change... including the saturn return.
 
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