A friend, C, and I were at dinner with our larger circle of friends. C noticed at some point that he had misplaced his wedding ring and went to look for it in the restaurant's bathroom. He was unable to find it there nor anywhere nearby (his backpack, on his person, on or under or near the dining table).
Having recently had some success with finding some things through horary, I went, "Oh, I'll cast for it!" And then, of course, I found myself not feeling like I was interpreting things right lol. So I'm seeking the help of others more experienced than I.
As a note, this is very specifically MY question, rather than C's, as he's a skeptic of astrology in general, and I think that's part of what's tripping me up. Every other chart I've read has been my finding my own things or finding things that someone explicitly asked me to cast for. I haven't had to use derived houses for any lost item horary charts, which is strangely making me feel very uncertain.
His conscious recollection of the last time he knew he had it seems to have been at work earlier in the day, and he did not stop at home between work and the dinner. He also had not been SOUTH of the dinner/horary location at any time on this date, though he had been both East (starting the day at home) and West (the whole day at work).
[FONT="]question[/FONT][FONT="]: Where is C’s wedding ring?[/FONT]
[FONT="]querent[/FONT][FONT="]: ruana (the astrologer), represented by AC, which is in Taurus[/FONT]
[FONT="]subject[/FONT][FONT="]: C, represented by DC, which is in Scorpio[/FONT]
[FONT="]quesited[/FONT][FONT="]: C’s wedding ring, represented by 2nd house from C, the cusp of which is in Sagittarius[/FONT]
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[FONT="]With Taurus rising on the day and hour of Venus, I think the chart is radical? But even this aside, here are some things that seem to indicate radicality:[/FONT]
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[FONT="] [FONT="]C[/FONT][FONT="]: Represented by Mars, which is in Virgo, and C is as Virgo as they come. [/FONT]
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[FONT="][FONT="]Mars is in C's 11th house, the house of of friends and community. Accurate to reality, given that at the time of the question, we were at dinner with friends. Arguably also still correct from the ascendant (querent's fifth house, the house of fun)?[/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT="]Ring[/FONT][FONT="]: Represented by Jupiter in Sagittarius. The ring is related to the law, a representation of a marriage contract.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]In previous lost item questions I've cast for, even if everything else felt shaky, the directional indicators always lined up or were similar (e.g., quesited significator indicates "south," moon indicates "south by west"), so I've found myself relying on direction a lot (and save for once, I've always found the item by following that instinct!). But in this chart, directions seem to be all over the place.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]Moreover, eeeeeverything seems to be separating, especially the significators for the item itself and for C (Mars, Jupiter, the moon). Am I looking for more than I ought to be? Should I be reading this as saying the ring is gone?[/FONT]
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Having recently had some success with finding some things through horary, I went, "Oh, I'll cast for it!" And then, of course, I found myself not feeling like I was interpreting things right lol. So I'm seeking the help of others more experienced than I.
As a note, this is very specifically MY question, rather than C's, as he's a skeptic of astrology in general, and I think that's part of what's tripping me up. Every other chart I've read has been my finding my own things or finding things that someone explicitly asked me to cast for. I haven't had to use derived houses for any lost item horary charts, which is strangely making me feel very uncertain.
His conscious recollection of the last time he knew he had it seems to have been at work earlier in the day, and he did not stop at home between work and the dinner. He also had not been SOUTH of the dinner/horary location at any time on this date, though he had been both East (starting the day at home) and West (the whole day at work).
[FONT="]question[/FONT][FONT="]: Where is C’s wedding ring?[/FONT]
[FONT="]querent[/FONT][FONT="]: ruana (the astrologer), represented by AC, which is in Taurus[/FONT]
[FONT="]subject[/FONT][FONT="]: C, represented by DC, which is in Scorpio[/FONT]
[FONT="]quesited[/FONT][FONT="]: C’s wedding ring, represented by 2nd house from C, the cusp of which is in Sagittarius[/FONT]
[FONT="][/FONT]
[FONT="]With Taurus rising on the day and hour of Venus, I think the chart is radical? But even this aside, here are some things that seem to indicate radicality:[/FONT]
[FONT="]
[/FONT]
[FONT="] [FONT="]C[/FONT][FONT="]: Represented by Mars, which is in Virgo, and C is as Virgo as they come. [/FONT]
[/FONT]
[FONT="][FONT="]Mars is in C's 11th house, the house of of friends and community. Accurate to reality, given that at the time of the question, we were at dinner with friends. Arguably also still correct from the ascendant (querent's fifth house, the house of fun)?[/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT="]Ring[/FONT][FONT="]: Represented by Jupiter in Sagittarius. The ring is related to the law, a representation of a marriage contract.[/FONT]
[FONT="]
[/FONT]
[FONT="]In previous lost item questions I've cast for, even if everything else felt shaky, the directional indicators always lined up or were similar (e.g., quesited significator indicates "south," moon indicates "south by west"), so I've found myself relying on direction a lot (and save for once, I've always found the item by following that instinct!). But in this chart, directions seem to be all over the place.[/FONT]
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[/FONT]
[FONT="]Moreover, eeeeeverything seems to be separating, especially the significators for the item itself and for C (Mars, Jupiter, the moon). Am I looking for more than I ought to be? Should I be reading this as saying the ring is gone?[/FONT]
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