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Unread 07-06-2011, 05:33 AM
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saturn/moon near the ascendant...my photo

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I saw this photo of me, and I thought hmmm....yes, that's my saturn conjunct moon in leo just a few degrees (well, 8 to be exact) from my ascendant shining through. Do I look like a subdued Leo? My venus is in Leo as well....or a proper Virgo? I do have Virgo rising and Virgo Sun/ Merc as well....any comments?

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Unread 07-06-2011, 06:01 AM
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Re: saturn/moon near the ascendant...my photo

btw, although I do look somewhat grim in the photo, I think I am usually more animated than that...that's why I was somewhat taken aback by this photo an thought...wow, I that saturn there is very serious looking when it comes through....but because it's in Leo I think it's kind of heavy handed, more than I really feel....anyone else with Saturn near asc who can look a bit grumpy on accident?
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Unread 07-06-2011, 06:41 AM
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Re: saturn/moon near the ascendant...my photo

Oh, dear...
well, I hope (and think!) I don't always look like a meanie (!!) but I sure do in this pic! Well...I am not a tyrant (petty or otherwise) but I am interested in what can be said about the aspect close to the ascendant and apperance. Thanks for your reply!
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Unread 07-06-2011, 06:48 AM
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Re: saturn/moon near the ascendant...my photo

although, I should add...my lovely bf calls me a badass...I feel like a total softie however...oh, well...
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Re: saturn/moon near the ascendant...my photo

totally bored tonight...have been to have a look at ceasar's chart...interesting that he has saturn in the 12th...isn't that meant to imply an inabilty to wield power in an earthly sense...like thwarted ambition...which does not seem to apply there. His saturn may or may not have been very close to the ascendant...impossible to know for sure now...but in terms of facial features, he does have that serious look. Well, saturn may be a malific, but I am convinced it does impart some deep loyalty and gravitas...without saturn we would be totally irresponsible...back to appearance, I guess they say cappy asc have strong bone structure, so I guess the same would be true for saturn on the asc. I also have neptune, uranus, mars, and jupiter aspecting, so it's a mix...and the moon there...with venus just behind it. Anyway, blah, blah...hopefully someone with saturn right there can relate?
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Re: saturn/moon near the ascendant...my photo

Thanks, Sugar,
I am intersted in vedic for sure...my second house is ruled by mercury in the first, conjunct asc...may explain why i am interested! I do find there is a bit of a disconnect in the way I feel and look...will check out that link, thanks!
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I had a vedic astrologer look at my chart once, and he said I had a bunch of rare (not sure anymore of the name he used) configurations in my chart...I didn't place too much stock in it then, he made it sound as if I had hugely spiritual insights and orientation...I am not expressly spiritual, but I have accredited my inner strength to my strong saturn....not an easy life, I've had, by any means, but due to my experience,
I am not afraid of much of anything. Nothing shocks me, but my life is quite good at this point, and I think it is a direct result of my idealism mixed with my pragmatism. Okay, enough about me. I really do want to know if others with the saturn influence feel they come off as toughies when they really are super feelers...or possibly if anyone can remark on whether I look more virgo-esque or leonine.

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Re: saturn/moon near the ascendant...my photo

Ascendant physical traits
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25131

Ascendant sign research
http://www.cafeastrology.com/risingsignsascendant.html
http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-ascendant.htm
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/angles.html
http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/zodia_sign.htm
http://www.astrologyzine.com/what-are-rising-sign-traits.shtml
http://www.alwaysastrology.com/rising-signs.html
http://www.astrofaces.com/astrofaces/index.html
http://www.forrestastrology.com/Audio-and-Video/The-Ascendant-Workshop-MP3
http://www.starslikeyou.com.au/star-files/ascendant/aries.php
http://www.forrestastrology.com/General-Astrology/the-craft-of-chart-rectification
http://www.elbertwade.com/page79.html

You can listen to author Jodie Forrest here describe Ascendants and planets in first house, even buy her audio on the subject
Just briefly, according to member Kannon [Cardinal signs are more rounded. Fixed signs are rectangular or blocky. Mutable signs are longish or narrow]
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28315
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Re: saturn/moon near the ascendant...my photo

My two cents: Traditionally, the 1st house represents the head itself. Any planets in the ascendant will modify the appearance (face).
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Re: saturn/moon near the ascendant...my photo

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Okay, so I have sun and mercury actually in the first...this pic is how I kind of dress and look most of the time....but the expression is again kind of withholding. Can't get away from that Saturn/virgo rising, I guess!
I will venture that with virgo asc, and merc conjunct, that perhaps I look young-ish...I'm 34 with two children and have had a messed-up, messy, totally stressful life until recently (used to be heavy smoker and drinker as well for a looong time before I had my babies) so I feel I ought to look as though I were in my 40s. Also, Sun in the first house will grant good health, whether you deserve it or no...but I'm no longer pushing my luck. Really, I want to know if anyone can see the specific aspects I have in my face...like saturn/moon or merc conjunct asc....or apparently there is a minor grand trine with the outlet at my asc which involves merc, uranus, jupiter, and mars....just curious, as I feel I can really see infulences of signs and aspects in others....but I can't really say objectively about myself.

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Re: saturn/moon near the ascendant...my photo

Oooh, just uncovered this; ruler of twelth house in the first will make you appear sad, apparently. It's interesting that in astrology a lot of the same ideas are repeated....like, I have Virgo rising which is an introverted placement...that is reinforced by Satrun near the ascendant, and again with the ruler of the 12th placed in the 1st....and it's also interesting that there is often a paradox there....like, even though I am an introvert, I used to be a (locally) successful actor. So, I guess that would be indicated by Sun in the first, and Moon/Venus in Leo....Neptune aspecting almost all my planets and strongly placed in an angular house. Anyway, guess I can't drum up much interest in this topic, so onwards and upwards!
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Re: saturn/moon near the ascendant...my photo

Yeh, I prefer something more positive like this ---

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Ruler of the Twelfth House in the First House
Your outlook on life is influenced by what is going on subconsciously. Something about your personality reflects your desire to help other people and they can easily recognize this. You may experience a time of confusion and doubt about who you really are and you can be your own worst enemy at times. The most important person you may have to forgive is yourself.
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Re: saturn/moon near the ascendant...my photo

Thanks, astrologer50,
Good to know...I like that...
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Re: saturn/moon near the ascendant...my photo

You definitely look very Saturn/Moon influenced to me too...

I dont have Saturn in my 1st, but I do have Saturn squaring my ascendant and others tend to feel that I look and come across as harsh sometimes... lol.. though luckily I also have Venus and Neptune trining Asc to give me a softer edge!

You have a really nice balance -- Just be glad that you dont have Saturn sitting there alone, with no help to smooth things over!
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Re: saturn/moon near the ascendant...my photo

You are so virgo looking like. If I see you on the street I would immediatly know that you have a virgo anywhere (well you have a lot of..). virgo is very easy to see, I find. Moon alone makes round, without specific shape or lines. saturn moon in my opinion is for appearance the better combination.
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Re: saturn/moon near the ascendant...my photo

Oh, thanks for the replies!
So Virgo, yeah, that makes a lot of sense....one of my brothers is a virgo rising also and there are certian characteristics we share which are kind of not at all like the rest of our family....we are both really tall, (he's 6'5 and I'm 5'10) we tend to have quite pale skin that goes swarthy and olive quickly in the sun and does not burn easily, we both look a bit nervous and shy (imo),
we are both lanky as well as tall....long fingers, long necks, etc...but I am kind of stronger looking in some ways....maybe the sun in the first?....with broad shoulders and a muscular shape. So from what I can tell, Mercury does seem to be easy to spot...Gemini has a similar look, right? Except, being air, those risers can have a luminoscity, and an elfin appearance....sparkle....perhaps less simple or classic looks than Virgo. My other brother is a Cancer rising, and he has the sweetest eyes...he is so lovable on sight. My darling bf has Sag rising with Neptune conjunct Venus on the ascendant...he is very tall, very obviously fun loving with a real sparkle in his eye, has big, dreamy eyes and funnily enough, a kind of giant head...(I read that is very Sag rising...but since he's so tall, it's not really noticable until you realise it). He also does have a kind of "horsey" carriage...like he seems to canter somehow instead of walk! Anyway, thanks so much again for your replies...it's nice to know what you think!
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