david starling
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Pluto ingressed tropical Capricorn in 2008, the year of the Meltdown of the U.S. economy.
Pluto ingressed tropical Capricorn in 2008, the year of the Meltdown of the U.S. economy.
The double-planet named for the Greco-Roman god of the Underworld is small in size, but its transits loom large when it comes to mundane events on a Global scale. This current pandemic is a case in point, a Saturn/Pluto conjunction to get it going, and there will be other Pluto-related events to come.
"We've managed to convince some gullible astrologers
that Pluto isn't really an astrological planet!!!"
On Mar. 9th, 2008,
with Pluto
exactly
one degree
into Capricorn,
the financial meltdown
began
on Wall Street.
Interesting about the approximately 8 weeks Pluto takes to move one degree: The (non-astrological) article in The Guardian, entitled "Three Weeks That Changed the World" that I read about the Meltdown, said there was an "eerie calm" during the two months preceding it! The calm before the storm....
Exactly. Pluto destroys so we can rebuild. It's amazing, omg how blind was I by the old testament.
The International Astronomical Union (IAU)It seems Pluto is not an asstrological planet.
Nevertheless for me, it's a discussionYes, but with you it's an argument.
Hence that interminable Pluto cartoon thread.
consider........How could science deem anything noticeable or not? That is a completely subjective opinion.
Any planet that can be seen from Earth with a telescope is obviously sending electromagnetic waves towards us.
If it has an effect, no matter how minor, it has an effect.
Just because its effects are very small does not constitute completely dismissing it.
consider........
Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn all reflect the light from the Sun
That's of major importance when one considers Basic Horary principles
- which, for example, -
require 'collection of light' as well as 'translation of light'
which are not possible unless the heavenly bodies under consideration reflect the light of the sun
Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are clearly seen in night skies
because they CLEARLY STRONGLY REFLECT the light of the sun
to the extent that they are clearly seen with vision unaided by artificial aids of any kind.
distant dwarf planet pluto, orbiting our Sun,
is too remote from our sun
to reflect the light of the Sun with sufficient strength
to render pluto visible from a geocentric perspective.
also keep in mind that
Moon STRONGLY reflects light of the Sun
but
in contrast
REMOTE DWARF PLANETOID PLUTO CANNOT DO THAT
i.e.
at night
given clear skies
when Sun is below the horizon and Moon is above the horizon
MOON IS CLEARLY VISIBLE
Moonlight is sufficiently bright to illuminate the scene and also cast a shadow.
Venus is also sufficiently bright, given optimum conditions, to cast a shadow
But, according to this theory, when light is blocked by the Earth, such as the Sun in a night chart, or any planet below the horizon, which prevents its reflective light from reaching the designated location, wouldn't that cancel its Influence on the chart?
SiriuslyBut, according to this theory, when light is blocked by the Earth,
such as the Sun in a night chart, or any planet below the horizon,
which prevents its reflective light from reaching the designated location,
wouldn't that cancel its Influence on the chart?
The Earth doesn't block the light of the stars below the horizon.
The people on the other side can see them shining.
They are not eclipsed.
My impression is
that misleading comment is simply not possiblethat the classical planets
have been so utterly overloaded with
meanings that have been taken from the outer planets
counter-intuitive = at odds with your own personal intuition
that at times
it has become counter-intuitive.
That explains why you ignore common senseYou've been expecting too much.
Astrology can't replace your intuition.
This threads still go on.
At this point this discussion is just plain silly.
What Oddity mentions of overlapping meanings, is
what seems to be a "faulty" and trivial logic applied to the outer planets
to give them what ever meaning someone may need
to explain something.
To be honest, its rather this simplification of the system
that makes the case against outer planets.
Pluto's rulership of Scorpio is the most common example:
- Pluto in mythology is the god of the underworld (death):
....Thus he was assigned the 8th house
....Thus he was assigned Scorpio (traditionally the 8th house sign)
And thats were the rulership over Scorpio came by.
Not because the meaning of the planet has anything to do with Scorpio,
or its opposite Taurus;
not because its triplicity, or its aspect scheme relating to the Sun/Moon;
not because of the dual femmenine/masculine sign rulership,
or its sect.
A "dwarf" planet is a small planet,
just as a "compact" car is a small car.
So, small or not, still a planet.
Unless a compact car isn't a car.
You are entitled to your opinion
David Starling just won the internet for this weekend.
Ding ding ding!
Other JupiterAscendents aren't going to like this. lmao
"There are ACTUALLY some astrologers who don't believe Pluto is an astrological planet!!!"
Humans an our labels.
We make labels, then argue about those made up labels.
What odd creatures humans are.
Who decided worms wanted to be called so?
I am offended for the worm society of earth.
Wait, who decided here was called Earth?
The International Astronomical Union (IAU)
downgraded the status of Pluto to that of a dwarf planet
because
it did not meet the three criteria the IAU uses
to define a full-sized planet.
Essentially Pluto meets all the criteria except one
- it “has not cleared its neighboring region of other objects.”