david starling
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Pluto ingressed tropical Capricorn in 2008, the year of the Meltdown of the U.S. economy.
Is Pluto an astrological planet?
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JUPITERASC
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On Mar. 9th, 2008,
with Pluto
exactly
one degree
into Capricorn,
the financial meltdown
began
on Wall Street.
Siriusly
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JUPITERASC
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The International Astronomical Union (IAU)It seems Pluto is not an asstrological planet.
downgraded the status of Pluto to that of a dwarf planet
because
it did not meet the three criteria the IAU uses
to define a full-sized planet.
Essentially Pluto meets all the criteria except one
- it “has not cleared its neighboring region of other objects.”
JUPITERASC
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Nevertheless for me, it's a discussionYes, but with you it's an argument.
Hence that interminable Pluto cartoon thread.
I predict that dwarf planet pluto = argumentative significator par excellence
JUPITERASC
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consider........
Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn all reflect the light from the Sun
That's of major importance when one considers Basic Horary principles
- which, for example, -
require 'collection of light' as well as 'translation of light'
which are not possible unless the heavenly bodies under consideration reflect the light of the sun
Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are clearly seen in night skies
because they CLEARLY STRONGLY REFLECT the light of the sun
to the extent that they are clearly seen with vision unaided by artificial aids of any kind.
distant dwarf planet pluto, orbiting our Sun,
is too remote from our sun
to reflect the light of the Sun with sufficient strength
to render pluto visible from a geocentric perspective.
also keep in mind that
Moon STRONGLY reflects light of the Sun
but
in contrast
REMOTE DWARF PLANETOID PLUTO CANNOT DO THAT
i.e.
at night
given clear skies
when Sun is below the horizon and Moon is above the horizon
MOON IS CLEARLY VISIBLE
Moonlight is sufficiently bright to illuminate the scene and also cast a shadow.
Venus is also sufficiently bright, given optimum conditions, to cast a shadow
david starling
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consider........
Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn all reflect the light from the Sun
That's of major importance when one considers Basic Horary principles
- which, for example, -
require 'collection of light' as well as 'translation of light'
which are not possible unless the heavenly bodies under consideration reflect the light of the sun
Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are clearly seen in night skies
because they CLEARLY STRONGLY REFLECT the light of the sun
to the extent that they are clearly seen with vision unaided by artificial aids of any kind.
distant dwarf planet pluto, orbiting our Sun,
is too remote from our sun
to reflect the light of the Sun with sufficient strength
to render pluto visible from a geocentric perspective.
also keep in mind that
Moon STRONGLY reflects light of the Sun
but
in contrast
REMOTE DWARF PLANETOID PLUTO CANNOT DO THAT
i.e.
at night
given clear skies
when Sun is below the horizon and Moon is above the horizon
MOON IS CLEARLY VISIBLE
Moonlight is sufficiently bright to illuminate the scene and also cast a shadow.
Venus is also sufficiently bright, given optimum conditions, to cast a shadow
But, according to this theory, when light is blocked by the Earth, such as the Sun in a night chart, or any planet below the horizon, which prevents its reflective light from reaching the designated location, wouldn't that cancel its Influence on the chart?
JUPITERASC
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fact is
Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn
all reflect the light from the Sun
which is of major importance when one considers Basic Horary principles
- which require 'collection of light' as well as 'translation of light'
neither of which is possible unless the heavenly bodies under consideration
reflect the light of the sun
Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are clearly seen in night skies
because they CLEARLY STRONGLY REFLECT the light of the sun
to the extent that they are clearly seen with vision unaided by artificial aids of any kind.
and in contrast
distant dwarf planet pluto, orbiting our Sun,
is too remote from our sun
to reflect the light of the Sun with sufficient strength
to render pluto visible from a geocentric perspective.
also keep in mind that
Moon STRONGLY reflects light of the Sun
but
REMOTE DWARF PLANETOID PLUTO CANNOT DO THAT
i.e.
at night
given clear skies
when Sun is below the horizon and Moon is above the horizon
MOON IS CLEARLY VISIBLE
Moonlight is sufficiently bright to illuminate the scene and also cast a shadow.
Venus is also sufficiently bright, given optimum conditions, to cast a shadow
Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn
all reflect the light from the Sun
which is of major importance when one considers Basic Horary principles
- which require 'collection of light' as well as 'translation of light'
neither of which is possible unless the heavenly bodies under consideration
reflect the light of the sun
Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are clearly seen in night skies
because they CLEARLY STRONGLY REFLECT the light of the sun
to the extent that they are clearly seen with vision unaided by artificial aids of any kind.
and in contrast
distant dwarf planet pluto, orbiting our Sun,
is too remote from our sun
to reflect the light of the Sun with sufficient strength
to render pluto visible from a geocentric perspective.
also keep in mind that
Moon STRONGLY reflects light of the Sun
but
REMOTE DWARF PLANETOID PLUTO CANNOT DO THAT
i.e.
at night
given clear skies
when Sun is below the horizon and Moon is above the horizon
MOON IS CLEARLY VISIBLE
Moonlight is sufficiently bright to illuminate the scene and also cast a shadow.
Venus is also sufficiently bright, given optimum conditions, to cast a shadow
The Earth doesn't block the light of the stars below the horizon. The people on the other side can see them shining. They are not eclipsed.
JUPITERASC
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Siriusly
i.e.
The Earth doesn't block the light of the stars below the horizon.
The people on the other side can see them shining.
They are not eclipsed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zonark
Guess that means we have a lot of work to do!
There's more than sufficient work delineating fixed stars, eclipses, PoF,
profection, firdaria, solar revolution et al
without ten thousand dwarf planets
not to mention
more than one hundred and fifty million asteroids
and other space junk
Few observe local skies seeking astrological insight ~
most are content with two-dimensional diagrams created by computer software
As for Eris, that dwarf planet is clearly an 'astrological planet'
IF dwarf planet pluto is
JUPITERASC
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JUPITERASC
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An impression is not equivalent to evidence
that misleading comment is simply not possible
because
classical planet delineation precedes outer planet delineation by several thousand years
counter-intuitive = at odds with your own personal intuition
which obviously differs from the intuition of others
That explains why you ignore common sense
This threads still go on.
At this point this discussion is just plain silly.
What Oddity mentions of overlapping meanings, is
what seems to be a "faulty" and trivial logic applied to the outer planets
to give them what ever meaning someone may need
to explain something.
To be honest, its rather this simplification of the system
that makes the case against outer planets.
Pluto's rulership of Scorpio is the most common example:
- Pluto in mythology is the god of the underworld (death):
....Thus he was assigned the 8th house
....Thus he was assigned Scorpio (traditionally the 8th house sign)
And thats were the rulership over Scorpio came by.
Not because the meaning of the planet has anything to do with Scorpio,
or its opposite Taurus;
not because its triplicity, or its aspect scheme relating to the Sun/Moon;
not because of the dual femmenine/masculine sign rulership,
or its sect.
JUPITERASC
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A "dwarf" planet is a small planet,
just as a "compact" car is a small car.
So, small or not, still a planet.
Unless a compact car isn't a car.
You are entitled to your opinion
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The International Astronomical Union (IAU)
downgraded the status of Pluto to that of a dwarf planet
because
it did not meet the three criteria the IAU uses
to define a full-sized planet.
Essentially Pluto meets all the criteria except one
- it “has not cleared its neighboring region of other objects.”
.
downgraded the status of Pluto to that of a dwarf planet
because
it did not meet the three criteria the IAU uses
to define a full-sized planet.
Essentially Pluto meets all the criteria except one
- it “has not cleared its neighboring region of other objects.”
.
JUPITERASC
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Humans an our labels.
We make labels, then argue about those made up labels.
What odd creatures humans are.
Who decided worms wanted to be called so?
I am offended for the worm society of earth.
Wait, who decided here was called Earth?
The name Earth comes from Old English and Germanic
Anshar and Kishar symbolized heaven and earth, respectively.
ANTUM - The Babylonian goddess of the earth, an early fertility goddess.
ANU - Also known as An in the Sumerian pantheon, he was the sky god
and Lord of the Heavens in tales written before 2500 BCE.
JUPITERASC
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Opal
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The International Astronomical Union (IAU)
downgraded the status of Pluto to that of a dwarf planet
because
it did not meet the three criteria the IAU uses
to define a full-sized planet.
Essentially Pluto meets all the criteria except one
- it “has not cleared its neighboring region of other objects.”
Pluto, known for explosive events. Outbursts. Technically, socially it has a bad reputation. But. It is my ruling planet. Conjunct my MC with scorpio rising. With all that, Pluto is social.
Pluto doesn't want everyone to clear out. Pluto is so far out, with such a long orbit, Pluto wants some company. 