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Four types of Karma


"The aspirant for Moksha ( liberation ), who has firmly grasped the principles of Karma, can truly control his self and acquire, in the words of the Upanishad, the competence of being the ' master of his self '.

Definition Of Karma

Continuous activities of the mind, the sense-organs, the organs of action and the vital forces of the body, e.g. cognition, volition, maintenance of body etc., which bring about their mutations are called Karma.

According as it gives us pleasure or pain, Karma is divided into four kinds :
( a ) white
( b ) black
( c ) white-and-black and
( d ) neither white nor black.

Karma that begets happiness is white;
- that which produces pain is black;
- that which gives us both happiness and misery is white-and-black,
- and that which leads to neither happiness nor sorrow is neither white nor black".


From THE DOCTRINE OF KARMA
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Samkhya-yogacharya Swami Hariharananda Aranya



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Permanent elimination of all sorrow can be attained by unalloyed white acts


“If an individual can combine qualities such as sufficient knowledge, power, devotion to duty, courage, etc., with a desire for enjoyment, hankering after fame and some amount of selfishness, he is likely to win success in the material world, and enjoy pleasure for some time.

It is not possible to achieve that kind of success by means of unalloyed white ( virtuous ) acts. But such acts help the individual in eradicating the root cause of all miseries, the consequence of which is permanent elimination of all sorrow.


That is the summum bonum ( "the highest good") of life for everybody, be he virtuous or vicious.”


From THE DOCTRINE OF KARMA
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Astrology reveals to us the effects of our previous Karma, just as a lamp illumines objects in darkness


“A man is born in this world to enjoy or suffer the consequence of his deeds from his past birth. A portion of this he reaps in heaven or hell but for the remnant he has to take a new birth”. Stanza 33 of Chapter 1 of Prasna Marga translated by B.V. Raman


“There are two kinds of Karma, viz., ‘sanchita’ and ‘prarabdha’. The effects of ‘sanchita’ will be exhausted in heaven or hell. The result of the ‘prarabdha karma’ will be lessened only by experiencing them”. Stanza 34


“Souls take fresh births for reaping the fruits of previous lives. This cycle of births goes on until the attainment of ‘moksha’.” Stanza 35


“Just as a lamp illumines objects in darkness, astrology reveals to us the effects of our previous Karma, good or bad. All the planets indicate clearly whether we are enjoying or suffering now as a result of our actions in previous birth.” Stanza 36 & 37


“The balance of good or bad Karma brought forward from the previous birth is ‘prarabdha’, and it is the reading of this that goes under the name of Jataka or Astrology”. Stanza 39 of Chapter 1 of Prasna Marga translated by B.V. Raman


Sanchita = Accumulated ( literal meaning)
Prarabdha = Pre-destined ( literal meaning)
Moksha= Salvation
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Karma theory in a nutshell


“We do Karma by body, by words and by thoughts. Good, bad or indifferent, they are recorded to our credit. The results of such acts are forwarded to the glorious Sun, who is the Karma-sakshi for the whole world, in all its department of activities. These results are noted by the solar officers and judgements are pronounced, as per Karma of each Atma. Thus, when a person is to be born, according to his previous Karma in environments, which are determined beforehand and according to which the planets stand at the time of birth indicating rewards or punishments as the results of previous Karma.” Famous astrologer Prof. B. S. Rao in Sri Sarwarthachintamani (Page 51)


Prof Rao stated that this is the Karma theory in a nutshell.



Note: Karma-sakshi = Witness of Karma
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Atma has an action independent of the Karmaic effects


“The product of the past Karma as indicated by the planetary combinations is quite different from that special energy called ego or self (Atma) which has an action independent of the Karmaic effects and a right development of which can be made to overcome the evil results of the previous Karma.



……….The Karmaic acts will produce their own results so long as they are not obstructed or modified by external agencies, and these or sufficiently indicated by the astrological writers to escape the attention of even the most careless readers of their works. Water finds its own level but where it is wanted for cultivating purposes at a higher level we must put a dam or anicut to raise its level and turn the canal to our advantage.”
Prof. B. S. Rao page 15-17 In Sarvarthachintamani
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Importance of Muhurtha (specific time, moments)


“What is done at an auspicious moment results in happiness. What is done at an inauspicious time, begets evil. However remote our deeds, the results are bound to be experienced in the family.” [ Stanza 38 Chapter 1 Prasna Marga]
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Dear and near ones have great mutual influences in moulding the Karmaic effects of a person.


“Karma ( results of past actions in the previous states of existence) as commonly understood by the general public denotes a series of births and results of these acts are enjoyed by him in the present birth in addition to what he may be able to do in this life. The previous acts and their results are also modified or augmented by the acts of those who are dear and near to him.

Thus parents, brothers, children, friends and wife have great mutual influences in moulding the Karmaic effects of a person.” Famous astrologer Prof. B. S. Rao in Sri Sarwarthachintamani (Page 13)
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Duty of Astrologer


Duty of real astrologer is to highlight the pending "Karma" to the client along with probable future happenings; so that an individual knows how to proceed in life and clear the bondage of soul to move towards perfection.
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Addictive Astrology

Predictions about future ( through astrology) have now become a tool to make a person addictive towards astrology and obsessive to know about the future, but highlighting the pending "Karma" is the main responsibility of the Astrologer.
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"The dream begins with a teacher who believes in you, who tugs and pushes and leads you to the next plateau, sometimes poking you with a sharp stick called 'truth'. " Dan Rather
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Thanks for taking the time to make these valuable posts! They will be very instructive for those who are beginning to look into the issue of karma and will put them on well grounded footing!
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Neither black nor white Karma



“The Karma called “asuklakrshna” ( neither black nor white) is of those who have renounced everything, whose afflictions have been destroyed and whose present body is the last one they will have. Those who have renounced actions, the ‘karma sanyasis’( and not those who belong to sannyasa-asrama merely) are nowhere found performing actions which depend upon external means. They have not got the black vehicle of actions, because they do not perform such actions. Nor do they possess the white vehicle of actions, because they dedicate to ‘Iswara’ the fruits of all vehicles of actions, brought about by the practice of Yoga.”


From: Chapter 9, The Theory of Karma of the book “Yoga As Philosophy & Religion” by Surendra Nath Dasgupta [ formerly Professor of philosophy, Presidency College, Calcutta, late lecturer in The University of Cambridge] first published in 1924 in London.

Note: ‘karma sanyasis’ The person who has renounced the world and do karma as Karma Yogi or without any expectation of results.
‘Iswara’ = The Supreme God
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White Karma; Black Karma

“The sukla ( white) karmas are virtuous or meritorious deeds . These can only occur in the form of mental states, and as such can take place only in the manasa karma. These are sraddha ( faith), virya ( strength), smriti ( meditation), Samadhi ( absorption) and prajna (wisdom), which are infinitely superior to actions achieved in the external world by the motor or active senses. The sukla karma belongs to those who resort to study and meditation.


The krshna ( black) karmas are those committed by the wicked, and as such are wicked actions called also adharma ( demerit). These are two kinds viz., bahya and manasa, the former being the nature of speaking ill of others, stealing others’ property etc., and the latter of nature of such states as are opposed to sraddha, virya etc., which are called the sukla karma.”


From: Chapter 9, The Theory of Karma of the book “Yoga As Philosophy & Religion” by Surendra Nath Dasgupta

Note: manasa = mental

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White and Black Karma


The suklakrshna (white and black) karmas are the actions achieved in the external world by the motor or active senses. These are called white and black, because actions achieved in the external world, however good (sukla) they might be cannot be altogether devoid of wickedness (krshna), since all external actions entail some harm to other living beings.


Even the Vedic duties, though meritorious, are associated with sins for they entail the sacrificing of animals.
The white side of these actions, viz., that of helping others and doing good is called dharma, as it is the cause of the enjoyment of pleasure and happiness for the doer. The krshna or black side of these actions, viz. that of doing injury to others is called adharma, as it is the cause of suffering of pain to the doer. In all our ordinary states of existence we are always under the influence of dharma and adharma, which are therefore called vehicles of actions. That in which something lives is its vehicles. Here the purushas in evolution are to be understood as living in the sheath of actions (which is for that reason called a vehicle or asaya). Merit or Virtue, and sin or demerit are the vehicles of actions. All sukla karma, therefore, either mental or external, is called merit or virtue and is productive of happiness; All krshna karma, therefore, either mental or external, is called demerit , sin or vice and is productive of pain.


From: Chapter 9, The Theory of Karma of the book “Yoga As Philosophy & Religion” by Surendra Nath Dasgupta

Note: purusha= soul under journey of birth and rebirth
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Let us be in the middle of two sides

Astrology is related with Karma (literal meaning “Work”) theory. It is said that, if we do good Karma in our life, we shall get good results. If we have done good Karma in our previous births, we shall get good planetary placements/influences in this life. We have to understand this [ Karma] in proper perspective.

Bhagavad Gita : Ch 1, Sloka 21 says

“Senouru-bhar-madhyae Rathaan Sthaphyah Meha Acyutah ..” [Sanskrit]

Arjuna said:” O infallible one (Acyutah), please draw my chariot between the two armies…”

One of the main teaching of Gita is in this line…

..let us be in the middle, where we can see the world in impartial way…

We are always torn between good or bad, win or defeat, honor or dishonor and the like and try always to do those things which are good, we always try to win a situation/war, and we always try to get the honor and so on. But, when we do such things we do these works with attachment and don’t get the desired results.

Ultimate objective of human life is salvation, which may take many births to attain. And for attaining salvation, one way is to be a ‘”Karma-Yogi” meaning “Person who does work with non-attachment”. This appears to be a difficult concept, but in simple language it means we have to take a middle path in life. Without judging whether one work is good or bad, we should do our duty sincerely without any attachment. We should get joy in doing the work without thinking about the results which may be favorable or not-favorable.

“O infallible one (Acyutah), please draw my chariot between the two armies…”

…..let us be in the middle of two sides.

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Let High and noble impulses be dominant in the Karmasaya at the time of one's death

“All organs, external and internal, have a natural tendency to act. An individual's present actions are to some extent modified by latencies of his previous actions. This latent force behind the organs is Karmasaya.

It is three-fold and is what -
( a ) manifests itself in birth,
( b ) determines the body's span of life and
( c ) produces experiences of pleasure and pain.

If an individual acts in a certain life according to his previous experience or performs fresh acts, the impressions of both of these go to form the latencies from which follow similar activities. Thus only the power to act is not Karmasaya; it is innate in us.

In each life, however, this power is modified by latencies of fresh acts and thus the Karmasaya ( potential energy ) is formed.

If we pour water into a pitcher or a glass, the water takes the shape of the container.
Karmasaya may be likened to water and Vasana to the container which gives the ultimate shape to our Karma.

……Thus Karmasaya becomes the cause of the next birth.


One should remember that memory of whatever one is doing now ( here the actions include both the mental and the physical activities done conjointly with the mind ), will arise in one's mind at the time of death.

If latencies of beastly acts predominate in the Karmasaya, Vasana for a beastly life will be revived and the individual will be born a beast.

Similarly he will get a celestial or a purgatorial body according as the divine or the evil impulses predominate in the Karmasaya.

One should therefore remain absorbed as far as practicable in meditation on God and His attributes in order that high and noble impulses may be dominant in the Karmasaya at the time of one's death.”

From THE DOCTRINE OF KARMA
By Samkhya-yogacharya Swami Hariharananda Aranya
(Rendered into English by Tarit Kumar Mukherji)

Note: Purgatory= condition of suffering ( dictionary meaning)
Vasana = inner desire (literal meaning)
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Pitfalls of honorable positions

From Ramayan: Uttara Kanda

Every day, King Ram used to sit in his council hall and ask brother Luxman to go outside the hall gates and see if there was anyone with a grievance. If there was, the person would be brought inside and his wrongs redressed.

One day, a dog was waiting outside. Ram called him in and asked him what he wanted. The dog replied that he had been hit on the head by a Brahmin, so that the Brahmin can go through the road. Ram asked the council to decide some punishment but the court said that a Brahmin could never be punished so Ram asked the dog to decide on some way to redress his wrongs. The dog insisted that the Brahmin should be given an honorable position, as the spiritual head of a certain monastery.

When questioned about this strange punishment, the dog replied, “Your majesty, in my previous birth, I held that particular position and though I was honest and sincere, the post is so full of pitfalls that when I died, I was forced to take this birth, as a dog. Can you imagine the plight of the Brahmin in such a post, who has an uncontrollable temper as well"
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Saturn's judgment would be totally impartial and rational and would be applicable for all

Indian Mythology mentioned that Lord Shiva appointed Saturn as a supreme judge of the world. Saturn's judgment would be totally impartial and rational and would be applicable for all.


On the basis of the good or bad karma of any native...Saturn will provide him auspicious or inauspicious results.

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