Could anyone please help me to interpret this horary and event charts.
On 29th August, it was reported in the local newspaper that a 19 year old man, had been discovered drowned on the beach. The newspaper reported that he had set out the night before at midnight from the hotel he had been staying at with his family, to go out alone for a late night drink. He never returned. When his body was discovered the next morning just after 8 am, police stated that none of his personal possesions had gone missing such as his wallet and mobile phone. He only had slight injuries which were consistent with having been in the sea, and it seems he had not been in the water for long. It was not considered probable that he could have committed suicide.
Somehow I wondered if he had been in an unfortunate accident or whether there is some element of foul play involved. Although he had no missing items, and it did not appear he had been attacked, how could he have come to have drowned in the sea? Perhaps he was drunk, fell over the sea wall and got pulled under by the current? Yet somehow, I feel that he must have had contact with others that night, if he was going out for a drink, perhaps he met someone? There is just an element of mystery about this.
I erected a horary for the moment I had finished reading the newspaper article:
'What were the circumstances surrounding his death?'
12:46, 29th August, 2005, St. Annes-3w02/53n45, England.
Looking at the chart, Scorpio rises at 11 degrees, so the debilitated Mars is significator. He operates in an environment which does not suit his needs. Mars is in a past quincunx to Venus, who rules the 7th cusp and the sign in which Mars is placed. So I feel that there is a connection here to someone else, but Venus is exactly conjuct the South Node, which perhaps makes this person malicious, wicked and cruel. The 11th house placement of Venus suggests a social setting. Venus operates in an environment which suits its needs, Mars does not, but is 'influenced' by Venus whose sign he is in, but Venus is conjuct the South Node, making this individual an evil influence. Venus and Mars are both in 'non beholding' signs, seeming to suggest a difference and irreconcilability between them, so then why the inevitable connection, as shown by the chart? I somehow feel he had been misled or lured in some way. Venuses conjunction with Jupiter blesses Venus with good fortune, and as Venus quincunxes Mars, and so distances itself from him, it seems that if someone else is involved with this death they are optimistic they will not be caught. Perhaps they know something but for some reason they are reluctant to come forward? The Venus and Jupiter conjuction appears benevolent at first hand, but considering the Venus/SN connection and that Jupiter rules the 2nd, which contains Pluto R. then both have deadly implications. Perhaps Venus and Jupiter are two people?
What immediately strikes me on this chart it that the IC, the place of the 'grave' and the 'end of the matter', is upon the dying, 'anaretic' (29th)degree of Aquarius, a Saturn (death) ruled sign. Thus by angle, and the terminal degree of a Saturn ruled sign there are three symbols of death all together. This makes me feel that it is the fourth cusp I should look to for his 'death'. It's ruler is Saturn which rules over the cusps of the 3rd and 4th houses, so the base of the chart is Saturn dominated, and the theme of death is evident.
Saturn is in Leo in the 9th, it is in its sign of detriment and in Saturn's term and Saturn's face so even deadlier still. It lacks any major aspects. It would seem the chain of leads from the IC are hopelessly fatal. (IC=29th=Saturn ruled=Saturn in detriment=Saturn's term=Saturn's face)What does being in the 9th say about his death? It is a cadent house, so Saturn in detriment is really bad. I honestly am lost on this one. How might the 9th show circumstances of death? His 8th cusp is ruled by Mercury which is also in the 9th. Both are in the Sun's sign, and the Sun is in the 10th, perhaps showing how his death was to become a matter of question for the authorities. One of the only minor aspects to Saturn is a future semi-sextile to the Sun, showing how his death was to be brought to light to the public.
The Moon is powerful in Cancer, and in the 8th house of death. It is in Jupiter's term and Venus' face, again implicating the involvement of the two 'benefics' with deadly associations (SN, PlutoR/2nd). The Moon forms a future square to Jupiter, when it will have moved from the 8th to the 9th, perhaps highlighting a time of the magnification of legal enquiries, perhaps if Jupiter represents a person, they will be questioned by the law? The next aspect is a semi-sextile to Mercury in the 9th, showing perhaps a subsequent legal inquiry into the death? If we are to stretch to outer planets, then the last aspect is to Pluto R in the 2nd, over which Jupiter rules.
It is known that the last time he was seen was at: midnight 26/27th August, 2005, Blackpool - 3w03/53n50, England.
I was wondering if this event chart of the last time he was seen could give us any clues as to what happened to him, if it was interpreted as a horary.
In the chart for the time he was last seen, the IC, place of the 'grave'
and 'end' stands out as being significant again. Gemini rises at 23 degrees, so he is signified by Mercury when he set off out that night. Mercury is right upon the IC, only just past by a whisker, so it seems when he set out his 'fate' was somehow sealed. Mercury's only future aspect is a trine to PlutoR, which is conjunct the descendant which not only shows deadly associations with others, but the Desc, is where the Sun sets, the light is extinguished and 'passes out of being'. His only possible future when he set out was death. I wonder had he planned to meet someone? What had they planned?
I am still a bit confused as to whether I should be examining the 8th or the 4th for his 'death', but as I keep being led to the 4th, and this is the place of endings, this is where I am prompted to look. Mercury rules the 5th cusp, so he went out seeking pleasure, but more importantly, the 5th contains Jupiter and Venus so he sought pleasure among the company of those already discussed in the previous horary. In this chart, the South Node is right in between Venus and Jupiter. That malefic influence binds these outwardly benevolent forces. Wondering whether he was going out to meet anyone, I look to the 7th cusp, ruled by jupiter, one of the pair already mentioned. I feel that he was. It is intersting that Mercurys last aspect is to PlutoR, which was in the 2nd in the last reading, the cusp of which was ruled by Jupiter. Which leaves me thinking that whoever Jupiter is, they wanted something back off Mercury, perhaps he had something of theirs? Mercury is in venus' term, so was he enticed by Jupiters attractive accomplice?
The Moon in the 'time last seen' chart is in Gemini, so Mercury rules over the Moon which is peregrine. The Moon rules the 2nd, what am I to make of this? The Moon comes into future sextile with Mercury and Mars at about the same time, but to Mars a little earlier than Mercury, and so (if I am right) this means that Mars is translated to Mercury hence Mercury suffers, is victimised, and as Mars is in the 12th this is hidden, undercover. Yet a trine to Venus occurs before this. A trine to Jupiter after. So Venus sets this influence in motion and Jupiter somehow consolidates after. Again, if stretching to Outers, Pluto R is the last aspect, conjunct the DC, the 'passing out of being'.
The data for the time the body was found is as follows: (just after 8am) 8:05, 27 August, 2005, Bispham - 3w02/53n11, England.
This time I am unsure as to whether I should use the 1st house cusp as significator of the deceased. As the significator is no longer living, are they still the first cusp? I thought perhaps the 4th, the 'end of matter' and the 'grave'.
Again the IC is emphasised by a conjunction with Pluto R, where Mercury, significator of the 'time last seen' chart was conjunct and where the anaretic degree of a Saturnian sign occured in the original horary.
The Moon last aspect is to Jupiter, now in a seperate house to Venus, as though they have grown apart since the discovery of the body. If we consider the outers, the ultimate last aspect is again Pluto R, in opposition.
I seem to have picked up a theme in these charts, and I feel that there are others who know something about this death. I am not trying to imply that anything such as a murder occured. Perhaps it was just that he was thrown in the sea, and the person didn't realise the consequences of their actions. It just seems there are others associated but I'm unsure of how to weave all this together.
I would appreciate it if any of you would like to have a look at the horary and event charts and offer your ideas. Some of the technicalities I haven't got the hang of, and maybe you can see some interesting things which I have missed. What do you think these charts are telling us about the circumstances that surrounded his death?
I'd like to figure this one out.
Thankyou for helping,
Draco
On 29th August, it was reported in the local newspaper that a 19 year old man, had been discovered drowned on the beach. The newspaper reported that he had set out the night before at midnight from the hotel he had been staying at with his family, to go out alone for a late night drink. He never returned. When his body was discovered the next morning just after 8 am, police stated that none of his personal possesions had gone missing such as his wallet and mobile phone. He only had slight injuries which were consistent with having been in the sea, and it seems he had not been in the water for long. It was not considered probable that he could have committed suicide.
Somehow I wondered if he had been in an unfortunate accident or whether there is some element of foul play involved. Although he had no missing items, and it did not appear he had been attacked, how could he have come to have drowned in the sea? Perhaps he was drunk, fell over the sea wall and got pulled under by the current? Yet somehow, I feel that he must have had contact with others that night, if he was going out for a drink, perhaps he met someone? There is just an element of mystery about this.
I erected a horary for the moment I had finished reading the newspaper article:
'What were the circumstances surrounding his death?'
12:46, 29th August, 2005, St. Annes-3w02/53n45, England.
Looking at the chart, Scorpio rises at 11 degrees, so the debilitated Mars is significator. He operates in an environment which does not suit his needs. Mars is in a past quincunx to Venus, who rules the 7th cusp and the sign in which Mars is placed. So I feel that there is a connection here to someone else, but Venus is exactly conjuct the South Node, which perhaps makes this person malicious, wicked and cruel. The 11th house placement of Venus suggests a social setting. Venus operates in an environment which suits its needs, Mars does not, but is 'influenced' by Venus whose sign he is in, but Venus is conjuct the South Node, making this individual an evil influence. Venus and Mars are both in 'non beholding' signs, seeming to suggest a difference and irreconcilability between them, so then why the inevitable connection, as shown by the chart? I somehow feel he had been misled or lured in some way. Venuses conjunction with Jupiter blesses Venus with good fortune, and as Venus quincunxes Mars, and so distances itself from him, it seems that if someone else is involved with this death they are optimistic they will not be caught. Perhaps they know something but for some reason they are reluctant to come forward? The Venus and Jupiter conjuction appears benevolent at first hand, but considering the Venus/SN connection and that Jupiter rules the 2nd, which contains Pluto R. then both have deadly implications. Perhaps Venus and Jupiter are two people?
What immediately strikes me on this chart it that the IC, the place of the 'grave' and the 'end of the matter', is upon the dying, 'anaretic' (29th)degree of Aquarius, a Saturn (death) ruled sign. Thus by angle, and the terminal degree of a Saturn ruled sign there are three symbols of death all together. This makes me feel that it is the fourth cusp I should look to for his 'death'. It's ruler is Saturn which rules over the cusps of the 3rd and 4th houses, so the base of the chart is Saturn dominated, and the theme of death is evident.
Saturn is in Leo in the 9th, it is in its sign of detriment and in Saturn's term and Saturn's face so even deadlier still. It lacks any major aspects. It would seem the chain of leads from the IC are hopelessly fatal. (IC=29th=Saturn ruled=Saturn in detriment=Saturn's term=Saturn's face)What does being in the 9th say about his death? It is a cadent house, so Saturn in detriment is really bad. I honestly am lost on this one. How might the 9th show circumstances of death? His 8th cusp is ruled by Mercury which is also in the 9th. Both are in the Sun's sign, and the Sun is in the 10th, perhaps showing how his death was to become a matter of question for the authorities. One of the only minor aspects to Saturn is a future semi-sextile to the Sun, showing how his death was to be brought to light to the public.
The Moon is powerful in Cancer, and in the 8th house of death. It is in Jupiter's term and Venus' face, again implicating the involvement of the two 'benefics' with deadly associations (SN, PlutoR/2nd). The Moon forms a future square to Jupiter, when it will have moved from the 8th to the 9th, perhaps highlighting a time of the magnification of legal enquiries, perhaps if Jupiter represents a person, they will be questioned by the law? The next aspect is a semi-sextile to Mercury in the 9th, showing perhaps a subsequent legal inquiry into the death? If we are to stretch to outer planets, then the last aspect is to Pluto R in the 2nd, over which Jupiter rules.
It is known that the last time he was seen was at: midnight 26/27th August, 2005, Blackpool - 3w03/53n50, England.
I was wondering if this event chart of the last time he was seen could give us any clues as to what happened to him, if it was interpreted as a horary.
In the chart for the time he was last seen, the IC, place of the 'grave'
and 'end' stands out as being significant again. Gemini rises at 23 degrees, so he is signified by Mercury when he set off out that night. Mercury is right upon the IC, only just past by a whisker, so it seems when he set out his 'fate' was somehow sealed. Mercury's only future aspect is a trine to PlutoR, which is conjunct the descendant which not only shows deadly associations with others, but the Desc, is where the Sun sets, the light is extinguished and 'passes out of being'. His only possible future when he set out was death. I wonder had he planned to meet someone? What had they planned?
I am still a bit confused as to whether I should be examining the 8th or the 4th for his 'death', but as I keep being led to the 4th, and this is the place of endings, this is where I am prompted to look. Mercury rules the 5th cusp, so he went out seeking pleasure, but more importantly, the 5th contains Jupiter and Venus so he sought pleasure among the company of those already discussed in the previous horary. In this chart, the South Node is right in between Venus and Jupiter. That malefic influence binds these outwardly benevolent forces. Wondering whether he was going out to meet anyone, I look to the 7th cusp, ruled by jupiter, one of the pair already mentioned. I feel that he was. It is intersting that Mercurys last aspect is to PlutoR, which was in the 2nd in the last reading, the cusp of which was ruled by Jupiter. Which leaves me thinking that whoever Jupiter is, they wanted something back off Mercury, perhaps he had something of theirs? Mercury is in venus' term, so was he enticed by Jupiters attractive accomplice?
The Moon in the 'time last seen' chart is in Gemini, so Mercury rules over the Moon which is peregrine. The Moon rules the 2nd, what am I to make of this? The Moon comes into future sextile with Mercury and Mars at about the same time, but to Mars a little earlier than Mercury, and so (if I am right) this means that Mars is translated to Mercury hence Mercury suffers, is victimised, and as Mars is in the 12th this is hidden, undercover. Yet a trine to Venus occurs before this. A trine to Jupiter after. So Venus sets this influence in motion and Jupiter somehow consolidates after. Again, if stretching to Outers, Pluto R is the last aspect, conjunct the DC, the 'passing out of being'.
The data for the time the body was found is as follows: (just after 8am) 8:05, 27 August, 2005, Bispham - 3w02/53n11, England.
This time I am unsure as to whether I should use the 1st house cusp as significator of the deceased. As the significator is no longer living, are they still the first cusp? I thought perhaps the 4th, the 'end of matter' and the 'grave'.
Again the IC is emphasised by a conjunction with Pluto R, where Mercury, significator of the 'time last seen' chart was conjunct and where the anaretic degree of a Saturnian sign occured in the original horary.
The Moon last aspect is to Jupiter, now in a seperate house to Venus, as though they have grown apart since the discovery of the body. If we consider the outers, the ultimate last aspect is again Pluto R, in opposition.
I seem to have picked up a theme in these charts, and I feel that there are others who know something about this death. I am not trying to imply that anything such as a murder occured. Perhaps it was just that he was thrown in the sea, and the person didn't realise the consequences of their actions. It just seems there are others associated but I'm unsure of how to weave all this together.
I would appreciate it if any of you would like to have a look at the horary and event charts and offer your ideas. Some of the technicalities I haven't got the hang of, and maybe you can see some interesting things which I have missed. What do you think these charts are telling us about the circumstances that surrounded his death?
I'd like to figure this one out.
Thankyou for helping,
Draco