Think I'm cursed.

sagittariussoul

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Hi all, so my posts have seemed a little depressive lately, and things just keep getting worse. I won't go into detail, but I was wondering if there was anything in my chart that might be the source behind all this bad luck? Or dark and negative thinking? Thanks.
 

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Rawiri

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Yes. Your bad feelings will peak from about the beginning of September until the middle of November this year. After that most concerns will be less intense (for the near future and emotionally speaking anyway).

(Also, I promised to analyze your chart for you concerning relationships a while back but it apparently slipped my mind, so forgive me, but yes you have some significant issues around relationships in your chart - but it is still a chart that shows relationships in the life eventually).

Be careful from mid July-end of August. Something "objectively" may happen that looks good...but don't be deceived and latch on tightly or the following period will be more painful. It is but a passing light.
 

sagittariussoul

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Yes. Your bad feelings will peak from about the beginning of September until the middle of November this year. After that most concerns will be less intense (for the near future and emotionally speaking anyway).

(Also, I promised to analyze your chart for you concerning relationships a while back but it apparently slipped my mind, so forgive me, but yes you have some significant issues around relationships in your chart - but it is still a chart that shows relationships in the life eventually).

Be careful from mid July-end of August. Something "objectively" may happen that looks good...but don't be deceived and latch on tightly or the following period will be more painful. It is but a passing light.

Thanks for The response, Rawiri. I think i'm just getting to the point where i'm tired of bad luck, and negativity. Is there not any hope for the future? I'd just like to know why I have to experience this. It's hard to struggle through.

I will take note of your warning there too. What do you think could possibly happen that you speak of? And are there anyways to avoid it? This year seems to have a much darker feel to it than the last. Even reading this post is making me feel scared for the future, and myself.
 

aurum

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Thanks for The response, Rawiri. I think i'm just getting to the point where i'm tired of bad luck, and negativity. Is there not any hope for the future? I'd just like to know why I have to experience this. It's hard to struggle through.

I will take note of your warning there too. What do you think could possibly happen that you speak of? And are there anyways to avoid it? This year seems to have a much darker feel to it than the last. Even reading this post is making me feel scared for the future, and myself.

I am not very good with astrology but I might be able to share something that helps me?

I like to think that when I pray for strength, I am given an obstacle to overcome. When I pray for patience, I'm given the wrong choice in a slow moving checkout line. If I pray to be more compassionate to others... My heart is given many things to break over. I am romantic a bit but I think we are given things that we CAN handle. Even if it breaks us.

Edit: sending warm vibes
 

GoldenLion12

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Hi all, so my posts have seemed a little depressive lately, and things just keep getting worse. I won't go into detail, but I was wondering if there was anything in my chart that might be the source behind all this bad luck? Or dark and negative thinking? Thanks.

I think first don't allow yourself to believe your cursed. I think this is the whole key! What you believe you perceive. While you may have obstacles in life, this doesn't mean it's your destination. Depression is basically low arousal (Swinging to much into the inner darkness of the psyche with battling negative thoughts, over thinking, catastrophe thinking, black and white thinking. The negative inner critic using negative words against yourself, versus outer negative critics using negative words.

What I used to do myself was listen and believe everything other individuals told me about myself. Question to ask yourself? Are these projections of other people true about me? We get lost in the labels, categories, niches, boxes other individuals put us in. We buy into the belief systems of society, culture, religion/spiritual, education, politics.

Now find the truth out about yourself by educating yourself. (Know thyself). Which you are doing here in the forum for starters.

The biggest thing is understanding you can grow, mature, develop, discipline yourself like the rest of us.

Life is filled with Negative bumps in the road, chaos and confusion, and negative and positive relationships.

I never even looked at my natal chart the last seven years until after I did all the inner work. What I will tell you, is that I didn't need too. I had too look within myself for the answers, educate myself, believe in myself, trust my inner compass, learn to navigate my own way through the world, and learn to be stronger mentally, emotionally, and physically.

While I'm looking at it now, I understand I've already overcome most of the things in my chart. So while you look at your chart, have a good understanding it's more of blue print of soul lessons you must mater and learn through time. I believe sometimes we can look at things, and it can overwhelm us, or believe we can't do something with self-limiting thoughts, and usually we have to learn to get past the limited thinking, fears, and stop thinking negatively.

There was times in life I wanted to give up, quit, and was very negative. And I think I never thought I would think in a more positive way, but I did and this is part of the journey. Negative relationships are sometimes the catalyst for us the transform and change within. It's all about your perceptions and beliefs.

Cursed really becomes a fearful word that breeds low-arousal, and lower thinking. I don't believe this to be true about you.

We all have negative aspects in our charts, some of us worse than others, and if anything, I think in the end mine being tough, actually evolve my soul in ways, that other people really can't even comprehend unless they've had similar experiences.

It will all make sense to you one day when you've grown, developed, and matured. Part of the adventure is finding all the pieces.
 

Rawiri

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Thanks for The response, Rawiri. I think i'm just getting to the point where i'm tired of bad luck, and negativity. Is there not any hope for the future? I'd just like to know why I have to experience this. It's hard to struggle through.

I will take note of your warning there too. What do you think could possibly happen that you speak of? And are there anyways to avoid it? This year seems to have a much darker feel to it than the last. Even reading this post is making me feel scared for the future, and myself.

Well, if you really want a reason "why"...from one system I use, spiritually speaking and specifically for you, you are an embodiment of divine, selfless love.

That energy however, is built on a foundation of a barren desert with one seed that has almost no chance of sprouting - except through a miracle (cliche...but of divine love) and constant "ego death" to prevent it being limited.

As an extension of this, there is a tendency to "build castles in the air" romantically. But if you dare tried to build a life around one of those castles, it will crash down around you - again to prevent limited focus.

So life disappoints you in order for you to grow and become more of that divine embodiment.

This is further emphasized for you astrologically due to Saturn conjunct Moon which causes great emotional distress to a person (and would be a major source for your negative thinking, though not the only). The moon is very love-sick but cannot find fulfillment with Saturn - it ends up going after what it can't have.

Some people with that combination can go so far as to have severe crushes and longing for celebrities (beyond the norm) or even fictional characters from a show or book that they cannot possibly truly connect with - but the pain to try and do that is still there.

The thing that can happen is not a bad thing in itself, if anything it should be good and would be something you want not something to avoid(I'm cautious to say what...) Just it will still not fulfill and be disappointing.

More specifically look to the end of July, I'd say 25th July give or take a day ...and I lean towards 24th. Though predicting anything is hard, let alone to the day and I certainly still make many mistakes when I try and do that, but I figured I would give you a date anyway - take it with a grain of salt.

You don't have to play the game you've been dealt though, you can always change it. Just in your case, you're probably going to have to be quite proactive especially in controlling your thoughts etc...moreso than many.
 

sagittariussoul

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Well, if you really want a reason "why"...from one system I use, spiritually speaking and specifically for you, you are an embodiment of divine, selfless love.

That energy however, is built on a foundation of a barren desert with one seed that has almost no chance of sprouting - except through a miracle (cliche...but of divine love) and constant "ego death" to prevent it being limited.

As an extension of this, there is a tendency to "build castles in the air" romantically. But if you dare tried to build a life around one of those castles, it will crash down around you - again to prevent limited focus.

So life disappoints you in order for you to grow and become more of that divine embodiment.

This is further emphasized for you astrologically due to Saturn conjunct Moon which causes great emotional distress to a person (and would be a major source for your negative thinking, though not the only). The moon is very love-sick but cannot find fulfillment with Saturn - it ends up going after what it can't have.

Some people with that combination can go so far as to have severe crushes and longing for celebrities (beyond the norm) or even fictional characters from a show or book that they cannot possibly truly connect with - but the pain to try and do that is still there.

The thing that can happen is not a bad thing in itself, if anything it should be good and would be something you want not something to avoid(I'm cautious to say what...) Just it will still not fulfill and be disappointing.

More specifically look to the end of July, I'd say 25th July give or take a day ...and I lean towards 24th. Though predicting anything is hard, let alone to the day and I certainly still make many mistakes when I try and do that, but I figured I would give you a date anyway - take it with a grain of salt.

You don't have to play the game you've been dealt though, you can always change it. Just in your case, you're probably going to have to be quite proactive especially in controlling your thoughts etc...moreso than many.

That's strange of you to say, because I don't feel that I am at all. Love has never been apart of my life so to speak, other than what I receive from my family at least. I've always been a lone wolf, with no stable relationships with friends, and no real relationships otherwise.

I have been told a few times that I do have harsh saturn aspects, with my father being the cause? Not sure how to explain what was said exactly. I never really understood it much. And that much is true with me, wanting what I can't have. May I ask what it is you seem cautious to say?

It also puzzles me how anything divine can come out of someone suffering so much iternally and emotionally. Though in the past, I have felt like I connected with certain charecter's from books, movies. I think they bring me comfort in that sense. Knowing that some of them have been through the same thing and so forth.

I've made a note of those dates just so I can be aware if anything you have hinted on does happen. Is there any chances of my transits brightening up a little too? They sound really dark currently, and i'm not sure what else they'd bring. Thanks again.
 

waybread

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I can't speak to your "bad luck," but I can see how your moon-Saturn square Pluto would influence negative thinking.

moon=your moods, emotional nature

Saturn=where and how we feel inadequate, not good enough

Pluto=belief in negative forces beyond our control.

As if this weren't enough you have sun-Mercury-Chiron

sun= identity, sense of self

Mercury=thinking, communicating

Chiron= the Big Ouch, where it hurts. (but where, if you stay open, you gain in wisdom and compassion.

With sun-Chiron, "It hurts to be you." In Virgo, you are apt to be your own harshest critic.

None of this means that there is anything objectively wrong with you. It just means you are prone to believe that there is.

Have you talked to your MD about your hopeless feelings? If you suffer from depression, your doctor can refer you to a mental health specialist. Medication often helps. If you don't want to go this route, try brisk outdoor exercise like walking, and/or yoga. Many people with depression find them to be really helpful.

No, you are not "cursed." (By what or by whom?) You do seem to have a predisposition to being very hard on yourself, though.

Yes, you can be happy with your present material circumstances. But you will have to work at it.
 

kshantaram

Premium Member
sag asc, optimistic, philosophical, ambitious, sportive, justice, impulsive;

rahu node sag 12th hyper-impulsive, mental travels-illusions beyond,
foreign lands,

ketu separative node gemini 6th, hyper-analytical, accident prone,
lung issues, job separations,
gemini 6th preference for analytical work environments;


asc lord jup with mars libra 9th, luck in any project of choice,
may be social-educational-legal/judicial projects;


mars aspect own aries 3rd promoting initiative; but not good for sibling health;
mars elevated aspect cap first protective of health-discipline-strong personality etc


moon-sat acq 2nd introvert, reformist, economical, mystic, airy, uncertain,
sat own acq 2nd, earnings in distant lands, trine jupiter;
trine mars, entrepreneurial aptitude/attitude;
sat retro, delayed results however;


moon-sat highest degrees for personality and vocation,
economics/research, banking, social-community counseling, social justice, etc


sun-mer elevated virgo 8th intellectual, critical thinking; research aptitude,
audit-quality control-investigative abilities etc, health care/medicine;
able to cope with challenges,

sun lord 8th over 8th, and mer lord 6th over 8th, success amidst adversity;


mer lord 9th for luck negating to 8th,
negating luck factor and support from father;

virgo 9th settling at 32+, thumb rule;



venus lord 5th for romance over leo 7th, high self-pride;
gemini 7th inimical for sag asc, stress-delay in relationships/marriage;
sat-venus opp acq-leo craving for romance but difficult to manifest;
mars-jup libra 9th seeking sociable libra spouse,
but could have stormy anger when provoked;

lords 1/7 jup-mer over libra-virgo friendly signs, inclined to relationships;


jup turns direct libra 9th sooner, transit natal jup-mars,trine moon,
could promote luck, higher education, marriage, social projects;

asc lord jup next sooner transit scorpio 10th for career,
trine own pisces 2nd for family-finances,
trine elevated aspect cancer 7th for marriage-relationship;
jup transit 10th manifesting luck-edu etc of natal jup-mars 9th.



sat recently retro towards scorpio 11th for friendships under stress,
secretive, research-occult interests,
sat turns direct sag 12th after 4-5m, could be better, optimistic/philosophical,
tending to foreign lands, natal rahu sag 12th for foreign lands;

next sat transit own cap first, ambitious, hardworking,
manifesting natal sat acq 2nd, earnings from distant lands;
sat cap elevated aspect over libra 9th promoting luck-edu-travels etc


rahu past 1.5yr transit sun-mer virgo 8th, clouding things, foreign travels,
could promote chronic toxic health issues intestinal-urological-heart etc;
sooner moves towards venus leo 7th promoting relationship;


ketu separative node next transit natal moon-sat acq 2nd, 1.5yr transit,
detachment from family-finances, pain-injury-surgery
teeth, throat, heart, lungs, legs, sciatica-nerve pain; to care;



may wear yellow sapphire over pendant touching heart,
for support from jup asc lord over 9th libra for luck,
prayers to saint of your faith, yellow flowers, thursdays;
jup good for luck-husband-children-education, etc


prayers to Christ with red flowers for ketu, tuesdays

observe fast sat evenings for sat conjunct moon opp venus;

may wear 0.25carat diamond for venus leo 7th over platinum pendant;


hope information helps reflect further, pick as relevant,

do care to share pointwise feedbacks,
true-untrue, insightful-useful-prospective,

wishing well,


kshantaram
 
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Rawiri

Well-known member
That's strange of you to say, because I don't feel that I am at all. Love has never been apart of my life so to speak, other than what I receive from my family at least. I've always been a lone wolf, with no stable relationships with friends, and no real relationships otherwise.

I have been told a few times that I do have harsh saturn aspects, with my father being the cause? Not sure how to explain what was said exactly. I never really understood it much. And that much is true with me, wanting what I can't have. May I ask what it is you seem cautious to say?

It also puzzles me how anything divine can come out of someone suffering so much iternally and emotionally. Though in the past, I have felt like I connected with certain charecter's from books, movies. I think they bring me comfort in that sense. Knowing that some of them have been through the same thing and so forth.

I've made a note of those dates just so I can be aware if anything you have hinted on does happen. Is there any chances of my transits brightening up a little too? They sound really dark currently, and i'm not sure what else they'd bring. Thanks again.

That would be the "barren desert with a lone seed that's unlikely to sprout." Embodying the actual energy is normally a life long concern and not one that happens readily, especially for certain ones which aren't very compatible with normal life or more painful.

Well, I agree with you that suffering and pain do not accomplish anyone much good let alone something "divine" (although I should've been more precise with words, as divine to me does not imply "good"). That is more the philosophy of that school of thought, not one I agree with.

That said, the emotional pain and suffering is strictly on the person's state, not the objectively abysmal concrete life.

You do have some harsh aspects with Saturn. I would not personally jump to that being due to the father though...sometimes it can be. But you were born during the daytime, with Sun in the 10th. I would look to that more for father than Saturn and it is not so bad.

I didn't want to say because the transit involves strong "initiating" planets and I was concerned if I said it 1) The event would not occur purely because they were going to manifest through self-initiation and knowing you could just "sit and wait" and miss out and 2) Because I was concerned it might give false hope in some way.

However, since you seem overly concerned and asked (and also, as I re looked and I'm actually uncertain now they will trigger anything due to misreading a period...) the transit I was seeing was Venus transiting 7th cusp at the same time that the Sun and Mars conjunct in the sky, while conjuncting Venus in your chart. It is a "bright" transit...excepting that the new moon gets involved which does have a tendency to be undesirable.

The problem isn't transits, there are transits going on all the time, good and bad and most pass with nothing major happening.

The problem is the consciousness in a person themselves which decides whether a transit actually hits or not. My concern is more the time period you are in is not one conducive to certain concerns and although it may (and should actually) allow them to manifest will not at all be desirable or stable and soon after this occurs you enter into a time where the Saturn/Moon gets activated which likely means the longing and discontent gets activated.

I expected some minor encounter may occur which is physically validating to you (however, certainly not emotionally fulfilling) and which while having some value would ultimately be transient and disappointing. Now though, I am uncertain of it occurring at all.

Don't be concerned with transits, be concerned with your internal state and controlling it. Then bad transits will be water off a duck's back.
 

kshantaram

Premium Member
no feedbacks to care to ack and share???


sag asc, optimistic, philosophical, ambitious, sportive, justice, impulsive;

rahu node sag 12th hyper-impulsive, mental travels-illusions beyond,
foreign lands,

ketu separative node gemini 6th, hyper-analytical, accident prone,
lung issues, job separations,
gemini 6th preference for analytical work environments;


asc lord jup with mars libra 9th, luck in any project of choice,
may be social-educational-legal/judicial projects;


mars aspect own aries 3rd promoting initiative; but not good for sibling health;
mars elevated aspect cap first protective of health-discipline-strong personality etc


moon-sat acq 2nd introvert, reformist, economical, mystic, airy, uncertain,
sat own acq 2nd, earnings in distant lands, trine jupiter;
trine mars, entrepreneurial aptitude/attitude;
sat retro, delayed results however;


moon-sat highest degrees for personality and vocation,
economics/research, banking, social-community counseling, social justice, etc


sun-mer elevated virgo 8th intellectual, critical thinking; research aptitude,
audit-quality control-investigative abilities etc, health care/medicine;
able to cope with challenges,

sun lord 8th over 8th, and mer lord 6th over 8th, success amidst adversity;


mer lord 9th for luck negating to 8th,
negating luck factor and support from father;

virgo 9th settling at 32+, thumb rule;



venus lord 5th for romance over leo 7th, high self-pride;
gemini 7th inimical for sag asc, stress-delay in relationships/marriage;
sat-venus opp acq-leo craving for romance but difficult to manifest;
mars-jup libra 9th seeking sociable libra spouse,
but could have stormy anger when provoked;

lords 1/7 jup-mer over libra-virgo friendly signs, inclined to relationships;


jup turns direct libra 9th sooner, transit natal jup-mars,trine moon,
could promote luck, higher education, marriage, social projects;

asc lord jup next sooner transit scorpio 10th for career,
trine own pisces 2nd for family-finances,
trine elevated aspect cancer 7th for marriage-relationship;
jup transit 10th manifesting luck-edu etc of natal jup-mars 9th.



sat recently retro towards scorpio 11th for friendships under stress,
secretive, research-occult interests,
sat turns direct sag 12th after 4-5m, could be better, optimistic/philosophical,
tending to foreign lands, natal rahu sag 12th for foreign lands;

next sat transit own cap first, ambitious, hardworking,
manifesting natal sat acq 2nd, earnings from distant lands;
sat cap elevated aspect over libra 9th promoting luck-edu-travels etc,

sat transit 12th from moon under stress though, coming 7.5yrs


rahu past 1.5yr transit sun-mer virgo 8th, clouding things, foreign travels,
could promote chronic toxic health issues intestinal-urological-heart etc;
sooner moves towards venus leo 7th promoting relationship;


ketu separative node next transit natal moon-sat acq 2nd, 1.5yr transit,
detachment from family-finances, pain-injury-surgery
teeth, throat, heart, lungs, legs, sciatica-nerve pain; to care;

rahu-ketu transits 2/8 tending to sudden events in life



may wear yellow sapphire over pendant touching heart,
for support from jup asc lord over 9th libra for luck,
prayers to saint of your faith, yellow flowers, thursdays;
jup good for luck-husband-children-education, etc


prayers to Christ with red flowers for ketu, tuesdays

observe fast sat evenings for sat conjunct moon opp venus;

may wear 0.25carat diamond for venus leo 7th over platinum pendant;


hope information helps reflect further, pick as relevant,

do care to share pointwise feedbacks,
true-untrue, insightful-useful-prospective,

wishing well,


kshantaram
 
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fifteen

Well-known member
S a t u r n! Sag-Turn! :whistling:

It's Sag's turn. Sorry. :D Look at Saturn sneaking up on that little Pluto... then look back at your chart.

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sagittariussoul

Well-known member
Hi everyone, thank you so much for responding to this post. Will probably have to read through your comments individually again, (I'm viewing on mobile currently) but from some of the snippets I saw, a lot of them make sense to me now. Especially with the planet aspects and these eclipses? around the time of my injury a few sundays ago. Hopefully that bad luck streak has passed now. All these new charts are interesting too. I've only ever looked at the basic natal charts from astrotheme and astro.com so I will have to look deeper into the other kinds of charts. Both personally and mentally, things seem a bit calmer now then they have been for the last couple of weeks, so hopefully this is a positive transit kicking in? :D
 
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