Being an empath

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I heard that in the beginning on your "empath" abilities you can experience alot of pain and discomfort with this. I think that you need to control it somehow, get away from negative environment and so on. I have experienced quite severe forms of anxiety reaction to dominant/power people yelling at me. Im not sure what its called in english... Some type of epilepsy like reaction where you cant breath and get numb. A kind of intense stress reaction. As if someone stabbed me in my solar plexus or something:/ The thing is that I usually tolerate being told of by normal people, but its something totally different with a few people that have very strong negative/dominant power for some reason....

Im not sure what I am myself regarding this, either empath or some type of clarsentient? Sometimes I dream about other peoples lives, dream the same as some of my friends the same night, telepathic messages and emotions.

I think Im quite sensitive to other peoples energies, so its good for me to just stay alone for a while or travel somewhere else just to know myself better. Or else I think I can confuse my own thoughts, feelings, problems with the person I am close to. Before it has cause me to get physically ill when I have been with emotionally stressed people, mostly boyfriends. One should look out for those that drain your energy. I didnt understand this before until now...

If you are an empath you have to take special efforts to do grounding and protection.

I use crystals and find this really helps just visualing white light etc is not enough for me.

Also you can do courses some people specialise in this.
I found out about this - run in uk.Empath empowerment -rose rosetree.

hello
i have always been empathic just sucking up feelings and knowing ~like a sponge when i was younger i did not understand this also seeing auras and energy around people
i actually took a medical intutive course where i did three readings on three people i did not know but i would also just pick up other things other than medical information~ that i could not see how i would know ? my instuctor told me how empathic i was i have always used it in my nursing ~i call it a knowing a feeling emotional and physical pain from patients or people around me
being around negativity can just drain me `i have actually left a job due to this` not the patients ~the managment they have gotten away from why people became nurses in the first place~
someone can walk in a room and i just know stuff about them i guess in the sixties they called it vibes we get from people
thanks for listening
stellum in pisces in the 12th :}

Yes, I can relate a lot to the draining effect of negativity. I was wondering whether I'm being oversensitive but it's the fact that I pick up things from people around me and then make them my own (the stuff I pick up, feelings, thoughts, bodily sensations etc.) if that makes sense. I absolutely need to protect myself from negative people or I end up frazzled and exhausted.

piscesnurse said:

hello
i have always been empathic just sucking up feelings and knowing ~like a sponge when i was younger i did not understand this also seeing auras and energy around people
i actually took a medical intutive course where i did three readings on three people i did not know but i would also just pick up other things other than medical information~ that i could not see how i would know ? my instuctor told me how empathic i was i have always used it in my nursing ~i call it a knowing a feeling emotional and physical pain from patients or people around me
being around negativity can just drain me `i have actually left a job due to this` not the patients ~the managment they have gotten away from why people became nurses in the first place~
someone can walk in a room and i just know stuff about them i guess in the sixties they called it vibes we get from people
thanks for listening
stellum in pisces in the 12th :}

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I also took a course in ESP abilities, just to confirm or unconfirm my emerging "abilities" during my teens. I got right on nearly all the medical guessing game about other peoples medical disorders. I was a bit shocked myself, and the others in my group also reacted to this...

Ive also picked up on other stuff, but nearly only medical stuff for some reason. Stellium Moon,Venus, Mars in 6th house virgo square Neptune in the 8th! Good Im in the health field I guess Pregnancies, abortions, death and stuff is what repeats itself. This comes in a form of "telepathy" or empathic telepathy with feelings and words in my mind. Ofcourse the Moon-Neptune square makes it kind of unpleasant emotionally for me each time I "guess" right. Its too right and too detailed to be only coincidence I think now.

I also feel that people with some kind of psych. disorder often come up and speak to me for some reason. Blame Mercury conj. Pluto

I dont know if Im being paranoid... But last time during surgery when I was watching and when they were stitching up the patient I suddenly felt intense pain in my own stitches from an operation I had myself some years ago, and I hadnt felt anything from there ever since. So I was thinking to myself that maybe it was because of the patient in front of me... And after he was finished stitching the patient started bleeding internally, awoke and the nurses started like panicking, so they had to undo everything.

I also felt this other times. Like during class I suddenly felt stomach pain out of the blue, and I thought to myself maybe it was somebody elses pain... And turned out that my best friend next to me had severe stomach pain during that class:/ She told me after. Im not sure if its related or not, but some coincidence....

My empathic abilities are highly developed. I can sense emotion as if they're actually mine.

As others may know, this can be both good and bad. You can feel happy and accomplished by making somebody feel good. But when someone is sad, it hurts to feel that emotion pain. The empaths are known to be considerate and kind because they care deeply about human emotion.

I guess I could say I am like this.

I am an emapth, as someone said you need to ground your energy and protect it, you can also visualize mirrors to so it will deflect any negativity headed towards you and send it back to the sender. I wish I knew this sooner, could have saved myself from all the s&** that's been projected onto me. Aviod negative situations, avoid negative people and speak your truth.

I completely understand the need for grounding and protection, as the energy can get to me bad. I feel like **** after dealing with someone who's sad. If I can apply my spiritual healing, could I work with the emotions of another, as I can work with their wounds?

I can tell if someone has had a difficult life, by sensing it. It never really goes away, it just gets buried in the mind.

I really get a sense of peace with the work I do as a healer and empath.

Nothing to say here. I'm just giving this thread a "bump" so as to find it more easily next time. It was buried rather deep in this sub-forum as it has been over 10 years since anyone lasted posted anything in it.

Most of the members that posted in this thread haven't been back to the forum in nearly as long a time, except Caro, who seems to have only been absent somewhat more than 4 years.

It's because having read another member's post/thread here in this same sub-forum [late edit. It's i the spiritual astrology sub-forum... my apologies] whom has brought up the subject of empathic sensitivities, or maybe I should describe them as "proclivities", as that may be a bit more appropriate, and that I've had personal experiences of my own with such, but on a reoccurring basis and not consistently, thus has give me cause to believe it is possibly genuine, and I found enough astrological evidence in the natal chart, she so considerately provided, to take some serious interest [I wish more members would freely share theirs when they post questions about themselves ]

So, I'll be scouring the forums, looking for threads on the subject, reading what members have written, especially those that have claimed to be empathic their selves, and try to get a handle on it

Too bad most of the member in this thread, if not all of them, seem to have moved on quite some time ago... but I am curious as to what the member Chris was involved with as to his claims of being a healer and doing healings as He was no more than 15 when He wrote that? He had a blog online too,
but announced that He was moving to another hosted website, then came back a year later and said that the other closed down and that he was looking forward to writing at that web-page again and about all the new subjects he had gotten into over that year, which seems to have been just when he was finishing his junior year in high school, June 2012, [and He also posted a side note declaring that He was of the graduating class of 2013!] and then was never heard from again.

I do find it interesting that two others that posted above, in reply, both appear to be, or had been, in the medical profession, or at least they claim so. Vagabondgirl and Piscesnurse ...[Piscesnurse? Do ya think?] and both mention stelliums in their charts, which is interesting, Vagabondgirl with Moon conj. Venus in Virgo within 2° 43' and Mars within 4° 49' to Venus, while Piscesnurse has the Sun conj Mercury and Venus in Pisces all in the 12th degree as she listed them. She didn't didn't reveal her chart, never did best that I can tell. I wish she had I would like to know the positions of Uranus and Neptune in her natal chart. One of the things I found from reading the post in reply of piscesnurse made me actually do a double-take. .. and that is her signature line, as for the reason that she used the description of the Sabian Symbol for the 11th degree of Pisces and I had just found that to be the same degree for u.p.'s Part of Destiny [M.C. + Sun - Moon] which anyone can see for their self and verify that it is at 10° Pisces 35' 11".
It would be a shame if these two never get to meet one another.

But Vagabondgirl did post her natal chart and that made my day as to get to actually see, and make a copy, of the natal chart of someone that claims to possess any metaphysical proclivity, such as a high degree of empathic sensitivity, is a treasure trove for research.

Yet despite not having posted her natal chart piscesnurse is the most intriguing as in a relative way to, one of our newer members, uranianplutonian.[if you all don't mind I will just call her by the two initials, u.p. from here on... thanks]
For one thing that signature line of hers that I mentioned above, but also another thing is that she wrote that she was able to "pick up" on other things than just medical information from people. As she wrote; "I actually took a medical intuitive course where I did three readings on three people I did not know but I would also just pick up other things other than medical information~ that I could not see how I would know ?" Well, that sounds similar to the telepathic experiences that u.p. has claimed to have, and her natal charts corroborates just about every which way, but more as like an intuition which is the very kind of class that she took... and I sure am interested as to where, in what country, nurses are taking medical intuition classes. Is it a required part of a curriculum? Because it doesn't sound like anything the A.M.A. would ever promote, even less insist that it is de rigueur, and I can't even imagine it being mandatory.

Not a physician, as for I can't be led to believe that, but possibly a nurse? As a nurse often sees a patient before a doctor is able they will be faced with a patient at some point in their careers where they might have to at least make some kind of educated ...and I hate to use this word... guess? But, why not intuition? Only I think that this course piscesnurse took may have been one designed to identify those with genuine gifts of metaphysical natures. Vagabondgirl even wrote that she had a class in which they were given tests to determine it, or reveal a likeliness of having been born with it.

Those of us that are not bound by stringent scientific codes that exclude all things unseen, that agnostic dogma that threatens them with revocation and ridicule if they were to even consider creationism and then publicly admit to even the slightest possibility of it, we astrologers have no compunctions with the idea that there are metaphysical forces that can't been seen and presently can't be proven to exist, as the most experienced among us have seen both the evidence, by demonstration in a client, and the verification in their natal chart. I've yet to meet any astrologer that denies the existence of a God, or at least that there is a Creator, an intelligence behind it all. As who among us would ever even consider that the perfection of the structure and design of the Zodiac, balanced so precisely by the paring of opposing, and yet, but complimentary precepts, and energies, that is a model of the perfection above and the reflection below, [the Mother of all Science as some of us already have chosen to believe, or have even seen enough proof to be of stalwart conviction] could have been just the random product that was the result of chaos?

The chart of member uranianplutonian [u.p. for short] has a number of aspects to her natal Neptune and Neptune is involved in a grand-quintile configuration, or matrix as I like to call them, and also in a grand semi quintile matrix too. Neptune is in quintile aspect to Saturn as they are 70° 42' 32'" apart, so within a 2° orb. She has written of having many experiences in which she was spoken out loud the very thoughts of another in which that person made it known immediately, and vice versa, indicating a possibility with a high degree of probability, of genuine telepathic ability, which has been found to exist in numerous aspects, placements and even by Sabian Symbolism everywhere in her natal chart.



This is he kind of find that keeps me going, keeps me interested, and is what I really live for. To meet such gifted people, and also acquire their birth data, and then to not only just see the proof of it in the verification of these astrological techniques but to demonstrate that natal astrology is valid and for real, once you figure out what does work and do away with what doesn't, and then share it with the world, most especially the scientific community, and raise our own "science" up in esteem just that much more.
We've been knocking on the doors of the "Halls of Science" for some time now, and knocking louder every time we do. They won't be able to say that they didn't notice us for very much longer and they're going to have to let us in eventually.

Did I write that I had nothing to say here?
Let me check...

Oh, my bad....

piercethevale said:

Nothing to say here. I'm just giving this thread a "bump" so as to find it more easily next time. It was buried rather deep in this sub-forum as it has been over 10 years since anyone lasted posted anything in it.

Most of the members that posted in this thread haven't been back to the forum in nearly as long a time, except Caro, who seems to have only been absent somewhat more than 4 years.

It's because having read another member's post/thread here in this same sub-forum [late edit. It's i the spiritual astrology sub-forum... my apologies] whom has brought up the subject of empathic sensitivities, or maybe I should describe them as "proclivities", as that may be a bit more appropriate, and that I've had personal experiences of my own with such, but on a reoccurring basis and not consistently, thus has give me cause to believe it is possibly genuine, and I found enough astrological evidence in the natal chart, she so considerately provided, to take some serious interest [I wish more members would freely share theirs when they post questions about themselves ]

So, I'll be scouring the forums, looking for threads on the subject, reading what members have written, especially those that have claimed to be empathic their selves, and try to get a handle on it

Too bad most of the member in this thread, if not all of them, seem to have moved on quite some time ago... but I am curious as to what the member Chris was involved with as to his claims of being a healer and doing healings as He was no more than 15 when He wrote that? He had a blog online too,
but announced that He was moving to another hosted website, then came back a year later and said that the other closed down and that he was looking forward to writing at that web-page again and about all the new subjects he had gotten into over that year, which seems to have been just when he was finishing his junior year in high school, June 2012, [and He also posted a side note declaring that He was of the graduating class of 2013!] and then was never heard from again.

I do find it interesting that two others that posted above, in reply, both appear to be, or had been, in the medical profession, or at least they claim so. Vagabondgirl and Piscesnurse ...[Piscesnurse? Do ya think?] and both mention stelliums in their charts, which is interesting, Vagabondgirl with Moon conj. Venus in Virgo within 2° 43' and Mars within 4° 49' to Venus, while Piscesnurse has the Sun conj Mercury and Venus in Pisces all in the 12th degree as she listed them. She didn't didn't reveal her chart, never did best that I can tell. I wish she had I would like to know the positions of Uranus and Neptune in her natal chart. One of the things I found from reading the post in reply of piscesnurse made me actually do a double-take. .. and that is her signature line, as for the reason that she used the description of the Sabian Symbol for the 11th degree of Pisces and I had just found that to be the same degree for u.p.'s Part of Destiny [M.C. + Sun - Moon] which anyone can see for their self and verify that it is at 10° Pisces 35' 11".
It would be a shame if these two never get to meet one another.

But Vagabondgirl did post her natal chart and that made my day as to get to actually see, and make a copy, of the natal chart of someone that claims to possess any metaphysical proclivity, such as a high degree of empathic sensitivity, is a treasure trove for research.

Yet despite not having posted her natal chart piscesnurse is the most intriguing as in a relative way to, one of our newer members, uranianplutonian.[if you all don't mind I will just call her by the two initials, u.p. from here on... thanks]
For one thing that signature line of hers that I mentioned above, but also another thing is that she wrote that she was able to "pick up" on other things than just medical information from people. As she wrote; "I actually took a medical intuitive course where I did three readings on three people I did not know but I would also just pick up other things other than medical information~ that I could not see how I would know ?" Well, that sounds similar to the telepathic experiences that u.p. has claimed to have, and her natal charts corroborates just about every which way, but more as like an intuition which is the very kind of class that she took... and I sure am interested as to where, in what country, nurses are taking medical intuition classes. Is it a required part of a curriculum? Because it doesn't sound like anything the A.M.A. would ever promote, even less insist that it is de rigueur, and I can't even imagine it being mandatory.

Not a physician, I can't be led to believe that, but possibly a nurse? As a nurse often sees a patient before a doctor is able they will be faced with a patient at some point in their careers where they might have to at least make some kind of educated ...and I hate to use this word... guess? But, why not intuition? Only I think that this course piscesnurse took may have been one designed to identify those with genuine gifts of metaphysical natures. Vagabondgirl even wrote that she had a class in which they were given tests to determine it, or reveal a likeliness of having been born with it.

Those of us that are not bound by stringent scientific codes the exclude all things unseen, that agnostic dogma that threatens them with revocation and ridicule if they were to even consider creationism and then admit to even the slightest possibility of it publicly, we astrologers have no compunctions with the idea that there are metaphysical forces that can't been seen and presently can't be proven to exist, as the most experienced among us have seen both the evidence by demonstration in a client and the verification in their natal chart. I've yet to meet any astrologer that denies the existence of a God, or at least that there is a Creator, an intelligence behind it all. As who among us would ever even consider that the perfection of the structure and design of the Zodiac, balanced so precisely by the paring of opposing, and yet, but complimentary precepts, and energies, that is a model of the perfection above and the reflection below, [the Mother of all Science as some of us already have chosen to believe, or have even seen enough proof to be of stalwart conviction] could have been just the random product that was the result of chaos?

The chart of member uranianplutonian [u.p. for short] has a number of aspects to her natal Neptune and Neptune is involved in a grand-quintile configuration, or matrix as I like to call them, and also in a grand semi quintile matrix too. Neptune is in quintile aspect to Saturn as they are 70° 42' 32'" apart, so within a 2° orb. She has written of having many experiences in which she was spoken out loud the very thoughts of another in which that person made it known immediately, and vice versa, indicating a possibility with a high degree of probability, of genuine telepathic ability, which has been found to exist in numerous aspects, placements and even by Sabian Symbolism everywhere in her natal chart.



This is he kind of find that keeps me going, keeps me interested, and is what I really live for. To meet such gifted people, and also acquire their birth data, and then to not only just see the proof of it in the verification of these astrological techniques but to demonstrate that natal astrology is valid and for real, once you figure out what does work and do away with what doesn't, and then share it with the world, most especially the scientific community, and raise our own "science" up in esteem just that much more.
We've been knocking on the doors of the "Halls of Science" for some time now, and knocking louder every time we do. They won't be able to say that they didn't notice us for very much longer and they're going to have to let us in eventually.

Did I write that I had nothing to say here?
Let me check...

Oh, my bad....

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I was just going to say, NOTHING TO SAY???

One of the rather curious things about this fellow that initiated this particular thread, member "surprise" is that they apparently erased every post they ever made and then got banned. I know of a couple of other members [former member, for the reason that she was banned, Mod Cleopatra, is one example] that got banned and their posts weren't erased, so then I have to think that it's safe to say that if you get banned from the forum it the moderators don't erase all your post as a result of it. Yet, this former member, i.e. "surprise", apparently erased all their posts [at least those that I have looked for up to this time, but at this time I've yet to find a one that hasn't been completely erased] and then got banned.

Checking as to the date they joined the forum, and while there is no way of ascertaining the date they did get banned... all though it is likely that it was announced by the chief moderator but I don't want to have to dig through all those previous announcements to see if it can be found, so I just ask to see the last post member "surprise " made and go by that date. So then "surprised" joined as a member of the forum on 12/27/2009 and made 58 posts in total the last of which was on 3/18/2011.
Now, as I had friends drop by last night that had planned on go on to Lake Tahoe but because the roads have been closed due to the enormous amount of snow that was dumped on the Sierras this past weekend [people that went up the mountain for the Xmas holiday and wanted to be back home in the Valley or Bay Area and planned on leaving by Sunday afternoon or evening had been unable to do so since sometime prior to then on Sunday and the roads still are not open by this time, which is 10:45 a.m. Tuesday. On the weather report given Saturday evening on the local news it was announced that the rainfall we have had here in Sacramento County so far this month has this December the second most wettest month of December that has ever been recorded {I think that's since 1850} and with a week to go until the months end, and that the forecast for rain all week long, that it will become the wettest ever recorded. In fact it was just announced that they will be letting out a lot of water at midnight as Folsom Lake is but one foot below it's maximum level amount, and that is something they haven't done is quite a few years now.] I got distracted from the research I was doing for this post and couldn't get back to it until a half an hour ago, and so I can't recall now how I ended up on another member, who was also banned {but a former member that I do remember from my earlier days of participation] by the name of "Jenna Jupiter" whom joined on 1/6/2008 and whose last post was on 7/8/2009, which was a little more than 5 months before member "surprise" joined., and on Jenna Jupiter's message board is a message from "surprise", dated 3/16/2011 that reads as, "I'm so so sorry Vestarion, never ment to hurt you!
You'r the only reason I came back. ♥" Given me a rise to suspicion that it was Jenna Jupiter that came back as the member "surprise" and given good reason that it was finally discovered by the mods and the reason "surprise" was also banned... possibly.
But the point of all this is that I found hat Jenna Jupiter's avatar was a cartoon drawing of a nurse, a rather "sexily drawn image of one, at that.
Here's a screen shot I took.


I have to go out for a few hours and my ride just got here [truck in need of repair] so I'll have to finish my thoughts on this topic later.