piercethevale
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PLEASE NOTE: This is an old thread that I revived today after deleting all my posts after this one... I was not off on my calculations as I had believed five years ago.
I just finished coming up with these with in this hour. I sent them off to a couple of fellow astrologers [ whom some of you members will, no doubt, be able to guess]
I'm going to post them with out going over the chart axis this morning as I'm tired...it's about 4 am here.
Most of you that have any interest in my Sabian work know how to interpret a chart axis by Sabian Symbology. In this instance I am proposing that the M.C. be read as the 'HOW' of the chart and the I.C. as the 'WHY"...I also recommend that those of you that have Jeffery Furst's book, "Edgar Cayce's Story of Jesus", utilize it to 'see' the corresponding story of Mary and her selection as the mother by the Angel and the ceremony as it was performed to that of the Sabian Symbols. [The 'HOW' is most interesting I think...but it is all interesting for that matter...]
I'm including the letter I sent off to my astrologer friends so I don't have to spend a lot of time here this late [or early] and will let you all noodle with it also.
Rant, Rave, Scream, Cheer, Razz, Applaud, Love it or Leave it...it's all up to each of your individual sensibilities.
Have at.
[the letter]
...As Edgar Cayce said that Mary and Joseph got married when she was 16. Cayce also said that Mary was carrying child between the age of 16 to 17. And Cayce said that when Joseph went to claim his bride he found her already bearing the child. And Cayce said that the two of them go married while Mary was 16.
This means the minimum age of Mary at the birth was 16 years and a couple of days [Yes, I know that is WAY extreme...but this a math equation taking in all the parameters] and the maximum age she could have been at birth would have been 17 years 8 mos. and about 28 days.
This means that Mary was born between [apprx] March 30, 14 BC & July 2, 16 BC [this was in error...]
I came up with these two I find very interesting.
My theory had to do with Cayce saying Mary and Jesus were true soul mates..one half each of the divided soul all men and women have among some significant other. I theorized that Marys' Lilith would be conj Yeshu'a's Moon. and/or [I figured and, actually...] their composite Venus would be the 14th of Aries as per the Sabian Symbol for that [You see, Miss X, aka [name removed], and I have a composite Venus in the 14th of Aries and her Lilith is conj. my moon...and Clarisse wasn't entirely sure about the question I asked her regarding all the signs and hints i was given if 'Miss X' and I were indeed 'Soul Mates' [for once...she's usually very confident in her replies...I figure she didn't really know what the image she saw was representing as she had obviously never been confronted/asked this question..] when I asked if [name removed] and I were in fact 'soul mates' and Clarisse said 'I think... so"
What I got was one chart with Lilith conj the 14th of Aries and a profound chart axis of Sabians when interpreted as Rudhyar explained [and in the Theosophic school of Esoteric Astrology i.e. the evolutionary direction of progression ...in the opposite direction the M.C. becomes the HOW of the chart axis and the I.C. the WHY.
Recall that the selection process according to Cayce was 12 maidens ..."On this day as they ascended the steps all were bathed in the morning Sun; which not only made a beautiful picture but clothed all as in purple and gold." ...and of course the Angel choosing Mary and all the hoopla...described by Cayce.
So check out the Sabian arrangement for the axis and consider where Lilith is.
The second chart has a Star of David [Grand Sextile] matrix...but it's missing in Aries...and as Clarisse said that I'm correct in assuming that there was a planet between Mars and Jupiter that must still be accounted for but there's no way of knowing when or where it's influence arise ["I see wormholes opening up here then closing and then opening up there and closing..."] that could very well be or one of the major asteroids may have been in the spot.
Anyways I'm attaching the two charts and let you noodle with them.
ps. both of he attached charts are no longer being considered as I pointed out one was too late for the birth of Mary...by about at least 3 weeks...and the other chart, I realized, is way more believable if moved back a couple of days to July 30
I just finished coming up with these with in this hour. I sent them off to a couple of fellow astrologers [ whom some of you members will, no doubt, be able to guess]
I'm going to post them with out going over the chart axis this morning as I'm tired...it's about 4 am here.
Most of you that have any interest in my Sabian work know how to interpret a chart axis by Sabian Symbology. In this instance I am proposing that the M.C. be read as the 'HOW' of the chart and the I.C. as the 'WHY"...I also recommend that those of you that have Jeffery Furst's book, "Edgar Cayce's Story of Jesus", utilize it to 'see' the corresponding story of Mary and her selection as the mother by the Angel and the ceremony as it was performed to that of the Sabian Symbols. [The 'HOW' is most interesting I think...but it is all interesting for that matter...]
I'm including the letter I sent off to my astrologer friends so I don't have to spend a lot of time here this late [or early] and will let you all noodle with it also.
Rant, Rave, Scream, Cheer, Razz, Applaud, Love it or Leave it...it's all up to each of your individual sensibilities.
Have at.
[the letter]
...As Edgar Cayce said that Mary and Joseph got married when she was 16. Cayce also said that Mary was carrying child between the age of 16 to 17. And Cayce said that when Joseph went to claim his bride he found her already bearing the child. And Cayce said that the two of them go married while Mary was 16.
This means the minimum age of Mary at the birth was 16 years and a couple of days [Yes, I know that is WAY extreme...but this a math equation taking in all the parameters] and the maximum age she could have been at birth would have been 17 years 8 mos. and about 28 days.
This means that Mary was born between [apprx] March 30, 14 BC & July 2, 16 BC [this was in error...]
I came up with these two I find very interesting.
My theory had to do with Cayce saying Mary and Jesus were true soul mates..one half each of the divided soul all men and women have among some significant other. I theorized that Marys' Lilith would be conj Yeshu'a's Moon. and/or [I figured and, actually...] their composite Venus would be the 14th of Aries as per the Sabian Symbol for that [You see, Miss X, aka [name removed], and I have a composite Venus in the 14th of Aries and her Lilith is conj. my moon...and Clarisse wasn't entirely sure about the question I asked her regarding all the signs and hints i was given if 'Miss X' and I were indeed 'Soul Mates' [for once...she's usually very confident in her replies...I figure she didn't really know what the image she saw was representing as she had obviously never been confronted/asked this question..] when I asked if [name removed] and I were in fact 'soul mates' and Clarisse said 'I think... so"
What I got was one chart with Lilith conj the 14th of Aries and a profound chart axis of Sabians when interpreted as Rudhyar explained [and in the Theosophic school of Esoteric Astrology i.e. the evolutionary direction of progression ...in the opposite direction the M.C. becomes the HOW of the chart axis and the I.C. the WHY.
Recall that the selection process according to Cayce was 12 maidens ..."On this day as they ascended the steps all were bathed in the morning Sun; which not only made a beautiful picture but clothed all as in purple and gold." ...and of course the Angel choosing Mary and all the hoopla...described by Cayce.
So check out the Sabian arrangement for the axis and consider where Lilith is.
The second chart has a Star of David [Grand Sextile] matrix...but it's missing in Aries...and as Clarisse said that I'm correct in assuming that there was a planet between Mars and Jupiter that must still be accounted for but there's no way of knowing when or where it's influence arise ["I see wormholes opening up here then closing and then opening up there and closing..."] that could very well be or one of the major asteroids may have been in the spot.
Anyways I'm attaching the two charts and let you noodle with them.
ps. both of he attached charts are no longer being considered as I pointed out one was too late for the birth of Mary...by about at least 3 weeks...and the other chart, I realized, is way more believable if moved back a couple of days to July 30
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