JUPITERASC
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Night Chart
Moon is sect leader of the nocturnal sect in favor
BILL GATES - Natal - for specifically SIDEREAL discussion
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Moon is sect leader of the nocturnal sect in favor
SunConjunctUranus
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Yes sir! The image of the rising was favorable as you said. But the Saturn square to fortune though.
JUPITERASC
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fortune location is interesting
fortune in another few seconds would have been AQUARIUS
i.e.
timing is crucial
fortune is extremely time sensitive
so
I checked the rating of the reliability of the source of official time of birth
and
found a Rodden Rating of "A"
NOT "AA"
"AA" is the most accurate rating
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Help:RR
"A" rating = Data as quoted by the person, kin, friend, or associate.
These data all come from someone's memory
family legend, or hearsay.
The quote may be substantiated by a qualifying statement such as
"My grandfather wanted me to be born on his birthday
and my mother said that I almost made it.
I was born three minutes before midnight."
When the information comes from an astrologer's client
it is considered reliable, since a client is investing money
for the astrologer's time and expertise.
When the quote is from a public figure given in public
it may be questionable.
Please keep in mind that public figures, especially politicians
answer a question in public to be accommodating
therefore, the time given may not be accurate.
When the quote is from one of a group of people who were asked casually,
it might be questionable.
Rounded-off time such as 6 AM or midnight might also be questionable.
regarding this particular chart
thus
the time of Bills natal is definitely rounded up
or rounded down to exactly 22:00
BUT IS FROM MEMORY
so could be even more off - perhaps by hours
SunConjunctUranus
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Wow Thanks! Didn't pay too much attention to Roden rating. But the Daimon would be (at least) in the same sign, isn't 11th sign from Daimon an indicator of wealth too, Jupiter? I read this on "Distinguished Person relative to the Fortune and Daimon" section.
ps: Jupiter, may I inquire free text about Primary Direction? Except (you know) from Martin Gansten, already have the copy of it.
ps: Jupiter, may I inquire free text about Primary Direction? Except (you know) from Martin Gansten, already have the copy of it.
JUPITERASC
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IF fortune is Aquarius
then
11th from fortune
is Jupiters domicile SAGITTARIUS
Jupiter located 2nd sign in Leo
however
generalisation is fun but unreliable
perhaps apply petosiris recommendation
of THRASYLLUS RECTIFICATION METHOD - is on another thread
Sun,
Martin Gansten text is legendary
SunConjunctUranus
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Jupiter,
Sidereal measurement always looking universaly great, no doubt! However, whole sign model should be combined with quadrant house because logically speaking, the planet's angularity are far MORE important then the Sign alone. Valens himself talked about the quadrant when he said he count the distance of rising to either MC and IC, then alloted 1/3 of the distance for planet's angularity. Morin did elaborate on this however the literature industry are unreliable greedy organizations.
So, mr Gate's Saturn and Venus were in the 5th house Libra. Or am I mistaken about this procedure?
Sidereal measurement always looking universaly great, no doubt! However, whole sign model should be combined with quadrant house because logically speaking, the planet's angularity are far MORE important then the Sign alone. Valens himself talked about the quadrant when he said he count the distance of rising to either MC and IC, then alloted 1/3 of the distance for planet's angularity. Morin did elaborate on this however the literature industry are unreliable greedy organizations.
So, mr Gate's Saturn and Venus were in the 5th house Libra. Or am I mistaken about this procedure?
JUPITERASC
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Sun,Jupiter,
Sidereal measurement always looking universaly great, no doubt! However, whole sign model should be combined with quadrant house because logically speaking, the planet's angularity are far MORE important then the Sign alone. Valens himself talked about the quadrant when he said he count the distance of rising to either MC and IC, then alloted 1/3 of the distance for planet's angularity. Morin did elaborate on this however the literature industry are unreliable greedy organizations.
So, mr Gate's Saturn and Venus were in the 5th house Libra. Or am I mistaken about this procedure?
The FOUR ANGLES = ASC/DESC/IC/MC
The four ANGULAR HOUSES = 1st, 4th, 7th and 10th
when using WHOLE SIGN HOUSES
IC/MC are not always located in ANGULAR HOUSES
nevertheless
IC/MC are always ANGULAR
fact is:
Bills official time of birth is from memory and therefore unreliable
chart illustration on this particular thread
shows Bills 4th ANGULAR HOUSE as LIBRA
with Bills SUN, VENUS, SATURN assembly in 4th ANGULAR HOUSE in LIBRA
meanwhile
Bills IC is in THIRD CADENT WHOLE SIGN HOUSE
keep in mind that IC is always ANGULAR
and so
Bills Mars Mercury assembly is located ANGULARLY relevant to the FOUR ANGLES
and is also cadent in 3rd relevant to HOUSES
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SunConjunctUranus
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Understood now for why you empesize Sagittarius is 11th sign from lot of fortune, Jupiter set to rise in Primary Direction. I think we don't have to rectify the chart because Gates himself did not give s*** about what we're doing here. However, it's good to learn new things.
JUPITERASC
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SunConjunctUranus
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Nevertheless the timing of Gates chart is unreliable
Yes, that is my point, Jupiter.
JUPITERASC
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Nevertheless the timing of Gates chart is unreliable
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Elon Musk was as blunt as ever
when he reacted to Bill Gates newest move:
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"...Cheap clean hydrogen would be a great breakthrough we have many uses for it.
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one Twitter user commented prompting Musk's emoji response.
Buffet, Bills best buddy, is heavy into oil (Oxidental Petrolium),
so its no surprise that Bill & Buffet are against Elon and EV's
MC PISCES MOON opposing IC VIRGO MARS MERCURY ASSEMBLY
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