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In Astrology of Inner Space by Carl Payne Tobey, he talks about a discovery he made one night:
Carl Payne Tobey, Astrology of Inner Space
pgs. 85-93
Carl Payne Tobey, Astrology of Inner Space
pgs. 85-93
He goes on to talk about the design in the universe suggesting two more planets outside the orbit of Pluto that would rule Taurus and Gemini. I mentioned Tobey on another forum, relating more information in this book. The thread was about the planets Tobey called "Y" and "Z". This is my first post on that thread:The thought that was uncovered for me just as I was dozing off that night was realization that the factor of rulership employed by the ancients involved two things, mean distance from the earth and the path around the circle. This was arithmetically substantiated, but some of the numbers were missing. They could be filled in.
The ancients associated a planet with each sign of the zodiac and said that a particular planet ruled a particular sign. They associated the planets with the signs in a specific fashion as follows:
Aries: Mars --- Libra: Venus
Taurus: Venus --- Scorpio: Mars
Gemini: Mercury --- Sagittarius: Jupiter
Cancer: Moon --- Capricorn: Saturn
Leo: Sun --- Aquarius: Uranus
Virgo: Mercury --- Pisces: Jupiter
Lying there in bed, dozing off, I was puzzled about the above pattern and I substituted numbers for names. When I did this, the above table changed to the following one. The numbers represented relative mean distance from the earth. The Moon is close to the earth, and so, I gave it the number one. The Sun is next (by mean distance) and so I called it two. Mercury was three, Venus four, Mars five, Jupiter six and Saturn seven. Then the pattern changed as follows.
Aries 5 --- Libra 4
Taurus 4 --- Scorpio 5
Gemini 3 --- Sagittarius 6
Cancer 1 --- Capricorn 7
Leo 2 --- Aquarius 7
Virgo 3 --- Pisces 6
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Uranus was discovered in 1781 by a musician and astrologers began experimenting.
Finally, they came up with the idea the Uranus was the real ruler of Aquarius, rather than Saturn. A surprising thing is that no astrologer came up with the idea that it might rule some other sign other than Aquarius. This concept was immediately accepted by all the astrologers from England to India.
This meant that they unconsciously dropped the seven from the clockwise count and added eight to the counterclockwise count.
In 1846, two more back-yard Edisons can along. They were unknown to each other. They were mathematicians, not astronomers. Both computed the position of the planet Neptune from the unaccountable action of Uranus.
After the discovery of Neptune, the astrologers experimented and came up with the idea that Neptune, not Jupiter, was the true ruler of Pisces.
In assigning Neptune to Pisces, they dropped the six in the clockwise count and added nine in the counterclockwise count.
In 1930, Pluto was discovered by an employee working at Lowell Observatory at Flagstaff in northern Arizona. His name was Clyde Tombaugh. He was not an astronomer.
Anyway, what were the astrologers going to do about Pluto? Well, after noting the sequence already observed, I placed it in Aries. That was the natural place for it to fall according to history. Arithmetically the mathematical sequence indicated that it belonged as the ruler of Aries. The rest of the astrological profession studied Greek mythology and placed it in Scorpio. I didn't actually announce my position until 1938, eight years after its discovery. During those eight years, I was researching the matter to see whether the empirical information confirmed my view. When it did, I published a small book on the sequence (A New Experiment in Astrology) and made my announcement.
All hell broke loose.
The vested interests were infuriated. They had already associated Pluto with Scorpio. What right did I have to differ with them? A sharp con man from California, who had incorporated his "brotherhood" into a "church," was now a minister instead of a brother. Launching an attack on me, he went out to organize standard astrology, which was to standardize to works of Ptolemy and Allen Leo with all their materialism, and nothing would ever be changed again.
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There was a convention in New Orleans. I was late getting there and I crossed the whole state of Texas in my car in less than 24 hours to arrive at 4:00 a.m. I was already a weekend late. At 9:00 a.m. I looked over the program and discovered a lady who was lecturing on Pluto. That, I must hear. I attended. The woman told about her research on Pluto, described her experiences and concluded that Pluto ruled Aries, not Scorpio. What astonished me was that all her claimed experiences were published several years before in a book I wrote on Pluto.
When the lecture was over, I was hungry and went to the dining room for breakfast. Before the food arrived, an acquaintance came accompanied by the lady who had delivered the lecture, introduced her and accepted my invitation to join me. I discussed the coincidence but dropped the idea that this might be plagiarism. The lady seemed very sincere in telling me this had all happened to her. It wasn't important and I forgot the whole matter.
Several years later, this lady had wrote a book. I was to edit it. In it she described Pluto as being the ruler of Scorpio. After that lecture, this was quite a mystery. I wrote and asked her what happened to change her mind. She replied and explained, "I wanted to be on the side of the majority."
My next post here will be the second post I made on that thread...In Astrology of Inner Space by Carl Payne Tobey, he mentioned two planets farther out than Pluto that he called "Y" and "Z". In his Leo Clockwise count system, he called "Y" the controller of Taurus and "Z" the controller of Gemini because the system of double rulership didn't make any sense to him. Why should Capricorn get it's own planet and Libra and Taurus don't?
While talking about planet "Z" in the book, he mentions Gemini people having a compassionate side that he couldn't attribute to Gemini itself, but to "Z" being in Pisces. In the mid 1960's he thought "Z" should be coming to it's end in Pisces and was going to switch into Aries. Eventually he noticed Gemini people coming to see him were reporting restlessness and boredom in their secure jobs and talking about a need for excitement. This carried on for about two years before he remembered his file on "Z" and decided then to send out a question to Gemini people, around the world, in his column "This Week in Astrology." He got letters in from all over, from Geminis complaining about their thirst for adventure and dissatisfaction with their lives.
To be sure about this he sent out another letter to Taureans asking about their situation. He didn't get any reports of restlessness, but he said a lot of them asked about the financial state of their homes. They didn't want to leave them.
Since that time I understand NASA did discover other planets, but labeled them "Dwarf Planets" along with Pluto. Does anyone know about these planets or what signs they are currently in? I'm afraid I don't know a lot about the situation and was hoping for some insight from someone who might be following the story.
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