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david starling

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How about Neptune in Gemini and the "Gay Nineties", right after the ending of the Neptune in Taurus era when "Cattle was King"?
 
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david starling

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I can understand why Neptune is so weak in Virgo astrological-wise. But logical-wise, I find it strange that Virgo Neptune is weaker than Cap Neptune. Cap is much more materialistic and forceful than Virgo, so isn't Cap against that dreamy attitude of Neptune the most?

They're basically sextile, instead of oppositional.
 

conspiracy theorist

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Thanks for clarifying. So guess a Gemini doesn't say something so heavy :sideways:

If you think the poet who gave us the seven levels of hell replete with all the punishments for each type of mortal sin, then Dante Alighieri would be just the type of "heavy" Gemini that you'd be looking for - that is if his birth chart is to be believed.
 

david starling

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If you think the poet who gave us the seven levels of hell replete with all the punishments for each type of mortal sin, then Dante Alighieri would be just the type of "heavy" Gemini that you'd be looking for - that is if his birth chart is to be believed.

Isn't Dante the guy who gave Morning-star Venus a bad reputation?
 

conspiracy theorist

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I erred and attributed that quote to Sartre. However, he did agree with it, until he converted to Messianic Judaism just before his death. Shocked and dismayed his followers!

I have the opposite interpretation to that "God is Dead" quote. Since the bulwark of Christianity was crumbling at the time of his writing, it was important for people to create their own values that weren't grounded in the church, since the Church has failed the people in providing them with sufficient meaning and reason for existence - at least how he saw it. Perhaps it was during that time that the final blow to Christian moral hegemony was dealt - since the Church was losing steam throughout the whole of the enlightenment period.

From Nietzsche in Human, All-Too-Human:

"Private and Ecumenical Morality .—
Since the belief has ceased that a God directs in
general the fate of the world and, in spite of all
apparent crookedness in the path of humanity,
leads it on gloriously, men themselves must set
themselves ecumenical aims embracing the whole
earth. The older morality, especially that of
Kant, required from the individual actions which
were desired from all men,— that was a delightfully naive thing, as if each one knew off-hand
what course of action was beneficial to the whole
of humanity, and consequently which actions in
general were desirable; it is a theory like that of
free trade, taking for granted that the general
harmony must result of itself according to innate
laws of amelioration. Perhaps a future contemplation of the needs of humanity will show that
it is by no means desirable that all men should
act alike; in the interest of oecumenical aims it
might rather be that for whole sections of mankind, special, and perhaps under certain circumstances even evil, tasks would have to be set. In any case, if mankind is not to destroy itself by
such a conscious universal rule, there must previously be found, as a scientific standard for
ecumenical aims, a knowledge o f the conditions of
culture superior to what has hitherto been attained.
Herein lies the enormous task of the great minds
of the next century."

Julius Evola came after Nietzsche and tried to develop on the "black hole" that the existentialists left behind - how to find and live with meaning in a modern world that has been assailed with growing Nihilism instead of engaging the positive pole of finding meaning in a world that doesn't give it to you on a silver platter. Here is one of his works on the subject.

He was also a part of the Dadaist movement.

Ride The Tiger
 
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conspiracy theorist

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Nietzsche espoused a moderate epicureanism when he was alive and often referred to himself and his 'ilk' as "free spirits!" and admired cheerfulness and other moderate and lighthearted emotional states. And from what I remember, I noted a lot of underlying optimism in his work underneath his emotionally intense presentation. Most seemed to get lost in his stormy veneer but his Libra Sun and Sagittarius Moon was right there with him to the very end.

He also had a lot of admiration for the figure of Christ but was more disparaging of Christians who he saw as "moral out of fear".
 
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david starling

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Nietzsche espoused a moderate epicureanism when he was alive and often referred himself and his 'ilk' as "free spirits!" and was admired cheerfulness and other moderate and lighthearted emotional states. Most seemed to get lost in his stormy veneer but his Libra Sun and Sagittarius Moon was right there with him to the very end.

He also had a lot of admiration for the figure of Christ but was more disparaging of Christians who he saw as "moral out of fear".

He believed in an overriding version of "Truth", in place of God. Sounds like Libra and Sagittarius. :biggrin:
 

Gemini888

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David, is Moon in Aries emotional? Despite having only Saturn and Pluto as my water planets, I can feel emotion very strongly. I'm wondering if that's Aries doing.
 

david starling

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I enjoyed BlackSun's Jupiter thread immensely. His absence, Lykanized and now petosiris. I enjoy the edgy intellectualism of them all.

I hope I didn't offend BlackSun?'s sensibilities with my criticism of Trump as President (never on his Jupiter calendar thread).. Blacksun? is a unique individual, who btw, has Jupiter in Taurus. :biggrin:
 

david starling

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David, is Moon in Aries emotional? Despite having only Saturn and Pluto as my water planets, I can feel emotion very strongly. I'm wondering if that's Aries doing.

Gemini is Regulated by Neptune and Motivated by Venus. Moon in Aries is an emotional Facilitator, which does require emotional sensitivity.
 

conspiracy theorist

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Couldn't find anything about Nietzche's opinion of Astrology.

In Human, All-Too-Human:

Astrology and the Like .— It is probable
that the objects of religious, moral, aesthetic and
logical sentiment likewise belong only to the surface of things, while man willingly believes that
here, at least, he has touched the heart of the
world; he deceives himself, because those things
enrapture him so profoundly, and make him so profoundly unhappy, and he therefore shows the same
pride here as in astrology. For astrology believes
that the firmament moves round the destiny of
man ; the moral man, however, takes it for granted
that what he has essentially at heart must also be
the essence and heart of things.
 
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