Astrologers' Community  

Go Back   Astrologers' Community > General Astrology > Natal Astrology > Astrology and Psychology

Astrology and Psychology For interesting discussions on psychological meanings and deeper implications in natal charts between members passionated by both psychology and astrology.


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Unread 05-14-2019, 10:36 PM
Rydar Rydar is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 34
Do Scorpio placements muddle religious beliefs?

How is the sexuality of a placement like Scorpio Venus or Mars displayed when the person holding it is chaste for religious reasons?

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Unread 05-21-2019, 11:23 PM
Lin Lin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 2,168
Re: Do Scorpio placements muddle religious beliefs?

ALL energy can be used in non-sexual ways, including Pluto and Mars.

Pluto (Scorpio) represents many avenues of our life experience besides sex.

Mars (Aries) represents many avenues of life experience besides aggression, war and dominance sexually.

Venus represents values, desires, beauty, balance, pairing, materialism, money....you get the point.

We can always channel energy into non-sexual ways. (if we so choose.)

LIN
__________________


"The universe does not care if it inconveniences you."

Last edited by Lin; 07-25-2019 at 01:58 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Unread 05-22-2019, 12:57 AM
waybread's Avatar
waybread waybread is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: A class M planet near you
Posts: 14,276
Re: Do Scorpio placements muddle religious beliefs?

Are you familiar with the Astrodienst Astro-DataBank? It is an archive of thousands of charts. If you search for people with religious vocations, I think you'd find a lot of Scorpio suns and chart emphases. A really famous one was Billy Sunday (1863-1935) who popularized a fire-and-brimstone style of evangelical preaching. Also in his mold was Billy Graham (b. 1918) who popularized preaching via radio and television.

Sex is only one of the many ways in which Scorpio, Venus, or Mars can express itself. Just for example, similar to what Lin noted-- Venus rules the fine arts and Mars rules athletes.

I am not sure what is the specific situation that interests you, but some people take a lifetime vow of chastity, such as Catholics in holy orders. For others, it is chastity until marriage; or simply until the Right One comes along. For the latter two, their sexuality can manifest at the time that is meaningful to them.
__________________
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world. Jack Layton, "Letter to Canadians"

I thought we went along paths--but it seems there are no paths. The going itself is the path.
C.S. Lewis, Perelandra.

Life is not about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself. Message on a refrigerator magnet.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Unread 05-22-2019, 01:20 AM
JUPITERASC's Avatar
JUPITERASC JUPITERASC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 50,325
Re: Do Scorpio placements muddle religious beliefs?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rydar View Post


How is the sexuality of a placement like Scorpio Venus or Mars
displayed when the person holding it is chaste for religious reasons?
It's sublimated
__________________
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-D...eature=related Hippocrates Let food be your medicine: let medicine be your food. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvz9uSK3zXo Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead Tom Stoppard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KchhSIVwMdY Every exit is an entrance to somewhere else. VETTIUS VALENS FREE http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/...s%20entire.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Unread 07-25-2019, 02:03 AM
Lin Lin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 2,168
Re: Do Scorpio placements muddle religious beliefs?

Scorpio AND the 8th house have strong dynamics of proselytizing. That is a big part of "preaching."
But sex AND values (whether religious or material) are both powerful components of Scorpio and the 8th house.
So even if a religious zealot has no Scorpio planets or nodes, it would be well to look at the 8th house for clues re this subject.
LIN
__________________


"The universe does not care if it inconveniences you."
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Unread 07-25-2019, 02:19 AM
Osamenor's Avatar
Osamenor Osamenor is offline
Senior Member, Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 3,654
Re: Do Scorpio placements muddle religious beliefs?

Celibacy is actually a way to use sexuality, if approached right. The original purpose of religious vows of celibacy was to channel sexual energy into spirituality, not repress it. Also to prevent the pursuit of sexual relationships or conquests, and the maintenance of them, from interfering with your focus on spiritual matters and study.

There was a nun who, when asked if she regretted not having sex, replied scornfully, "I'm seeing the world from an elephant's back, and you ask if regret not riding a donkey?"

There are plenty of writings by religious celibates that are deeply sexual, and deeply spiritual and mystical, too. Teresa of Avila, for instance.

All of that fits very well with Scorpio energy.

Edited to add: Assuming that is, that by "chaste" you mean celibate. Chaste can also mean avoiding non-marital sex but allowing sex within marriage, and lots of people do that for religious reasons. In that case, if they're married, they have an acceptable outlet. If they're not married, then it becomes celibacy, so see above.
__________________
Private messages welcome if they're either moderation-related matters or personal messages for me, but please do not send me astrological questions or chart reading requests. I answer those on the forum sometimes, and in my practice always, but not in private messaging.

If you would like to read my blog or inquire about my practice, please visit https://www.thebearsnose.com/

I also answer natal chart-based questions in its Ask the Astrologer feature. Submissions very welcome there!

Last edited by Osamenor; 07-25-2019 at 02:53 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
beliefs, muddle, placements, religious, scorpio

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT. The time now is 02:06 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2005-2018, AstrologyWeekly.com. Boards' structure and all posts are property of AstrologyWeekly.com and their respective creators. No part of the messages sent on these boards may be copied without their owners' explicit consent.