Does this chart indicate success?

tobby

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I'd be interested to hear what you guys have to say about this chart. It belongs to a woman I know and who despite what I expected after studing her chart a few years ago, she seems to do quite well in her job. Taken that there are a couple of very positive aspects which I mention below, I wonder if this natal chart in general indicates general success in life or at least in professional matters.

ASC is conjunct fixed star Sirius plus square Jupiter and Venus
Pluto tightly trines MC
Venus in the 10th
Jupiter trines Saturn
Saturn sextiles North Node

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aldebaran

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Neptune conjuncting Uranus in Capricorn ruling the MC.

I would guess that she has definitely much force and ambition to her career/status, but that she doesn't lack originality and inspiration over it.

She has a rare, strong and intriguing conjunction ruling the MC. This will be quite an unusual part of this generation personality that will show up on each one in a different part of their lives, to this person, is ruling the MC. Powerful.
 

tobby

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Thank you for the input aldebaran. :)

To be honest though I'm not particularly trustful of the modern rulership system since Robert Hand has often claimed that it's bogus and that he only uses the traditional system of rulerships, according to which the MC ruler here is Jupiter. And by the way, Jupiter is the only planet of the chart that is not in fall or exile (if that says anything). :surprised:
 
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kshantaram

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how is the lady related. hope knows her chart discussed on forum.

moon cap 6th ambitious-hardworking-diplomatic; event management.
elevated aspect from mars supportive of health-employment;


rahu the node sag 6th, ambitious, sportive, impulsive,
able to overcome challenges-opponents tactfully.


ketu opp gemini 12th, hyper-analytical; foreign lands;
rational approach to spirituality, realisations through pain,
pain-injury chest-lungs-feet etc


mer debilated pisces 9th, emotional-confused;
jup lord 9th over 4th quadrant, debilation cancelled,
gradual improvement in luck-edu-foreign/distant travels;
mer elevated aspect over virgo 3rd promoting writings etc


taurus-venus 11th inimical for cancer asc,
venus aries 10th artistic aptitudes, charismatic leadership,
gains through career, but under stress-delays,
jup aspect aries supportive;

venus negating 11th negating friendships-relationship thereby;
prone to head-knee-kidney issues etc;

sat debilated aspect over venus-aries 10th to note; career issues;
jup aspect protective;

mars lord 10th debilated over cancer 12th;

asc lord moon over 6th prone to health issues and hardwork;
mars aspect supportive of health-employment though.

moon aspect own cancer 12th, mars debilation cancelled,
gradual improvement in health-expenses-foreign lands etc,
volatile emotions-finances though;

mars cancer suppressed anger; non-assertive;


sun-sat own acq 8th, success amidst adversity hopefully;
strained relationships with father-family probably;
autocratic attitude;
admin and reforms aptitude; statistical research;

jup lord 6th over 4th libra, affecting
domestic comforts, mother, health, property matters,
heart-lungs-liver affected;
advisory aptitudes; jup lord 9th for luck over 4th;

currently jup transit natal jup libra 4th under stress transit sq moon;
jup trine sun-sat acq 8th supportive of insurance admin/research etc;

currently ketu transit sun-sat acq coming 1.5yr,
prone to pain-injury-surgery;

rahu transit leo 2nd scope of income through foreign sources;

rahu-ketu transit 2/8 houses prone to sudden happenings in life;


sat past 2.5yrs transit rahu-sag 6th good for employment prospects,
though under stress transit 12th from moon; a mixed bag;

sat now next moves to own cap-moon 6th good for employment,
again under stress-struggle transit opp mars, health and employment;

jup sooner moves to passionate scorpio 5th
for luck-edu-romance-children-position/promotion,
trine own pisces-mer 9th for luck-edu-children-travels;
trine elevated aspect over mars cancer 12th for health-foreign lands;



hope observations help, share feedbacks and trends in relevance,

wishing well,


kshantaram
 
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katydid

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A Cardinal Grand Cross with Mars/Moon/Venus/Jupiter, Angular houses, would be very DYNAMIC, ambitious and goal oriented. :ninja:

But with the Sun/Saturn square Pluto, I wonder how fulfilled and satisfied she feels. It may be a workaholic type of situation where she works really hard but as an escape?
 

Rawiri

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With how I judge a chart, there are certain indications of success.

Firstly, and most obviously, there is a Raj yoga. Raj Yogas bring position etc. Mars in Cancer is good for Cancer rising and causes this (unless cancelled by something else), which is further emphasized enhanced by its opposition with the Moon.

Of course, most astrologers who use that would be looking at a sidereal chart, not tropical. Nonetheless...

Planets on angles, generally, is good (though painful if malefics, it at least means they are more likely to be getting stuff done).

Going further, Jupiter is on an angle from the moon. That also will act to bring wealth and position at some point.

Jupiter 9th (whole sign) lord on angle from Venus, 4th Lord and in aspect is also a combination for success.

Venus, 4th and 11th Lord in the 10th is good for career.

2nd Lord in the 8th is also good for money, typically (though it will be stressed at times due to that Saturn, 7th Lord...)

2 benefics in "growth houses" from the moon (3rd, 6th, 10th and 11th) will allow a person to achieve their success reasonably fast.

All that said, Saturn is in the 2nd from the Moon, and 10th whole sign lord is still in fall, despite the potential Raj Yoga it causes. So that will cause problems at some point. Saturn will mean there is certainly hard work involved in the success.

Also, their love life is not likely to be particularly good with 1st lord in 7th, 2nd lord in 8th, 7th lord in 8th (and combust Sun).

It all depends on timing though...I can't judge timing well from that chart without calculating different time periods etc. They could simply be in a good period (Moon time period is likely to be very good for such success, for example).

Saturn will move into Capricorn soon, this will be stressful on the person emotionally however they will likely have some rewards career wise then, a shift in what they do even - for the better. Jupiter in Scorpio will also be good for them adding to potential position and income increases.

I really think most astrologers would be benefited by learning the more common "yogas" of jyotish, even if they don't study jyotish itself or use sidereal zodiac etc. They are very useful and without knowing them you can easily miss certain things...

But basically, if a person has a bunch of planets on angles from each other - and particularly if they're also on angles from the ascendant - they are incredibly likely to have at least SOME combinations for success going on.
 

detectahead

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Does she take care of the elderly, home care? Mars in 12th, energy is behind the scenes. Sun saturn conjunct in 8th. Seniors near or close to the end of life?
 

tobby

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It may be conjunct, but it is still in the 8th
It is conjunct the ninith house cusp with a one-degree orb, so it does not operate as an eighth house planet. In the particular case though the conjunction to Saturn could be interpreted as matters of an eighth house nature which hinder the ninth house sun.
 

detectahead

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Yes, it's conjunct, but if I read saturn I will read it in the 8th not the 9th especially if it is connected with another planet in the 8th. If the conjunction occurred with a planet in the 9th then I would read as the 9th and still have reservations on that. [deleted argumentative point - Moderator]
 
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tobby

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And if could kindly also care to share who this woman is,
whose chart has been chosen to discuss on this august forum.

best regards.

1) Thanks for your best regards.

2) "August forum?" :confused:

3) Interestingly enough you insisted on learning the indentity of the woman this chart belongs to, after you realised that I don't buy your half-baked nonsense about considering a planet which is in conjunction to the ninth house cusp as being in the eighth. What a clever attempt to contradict me. Nice timing. :)

You already wasted your time.
Thanks for admitting that responding to you is a waste of time.
 
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tobby

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The chart belongs to good friend of mine, we know each other since we were kids. When I took a look at the chart a couple of years ago I found it to be what would be called relatively difficult, but she's doing pretty good in her profession and she's so motivated that I expect that she will excel and become very successful in the future. I chose her chart because out of all my friends' charts this is one of the most interesting ones. She knows that I'm into astrology and gave me the time and place of birth herself.
 

kshantaram

Premium Member


how is the lady related. hope knows her chart discussed on forum.



moon cap 6th ambitious-hardworking-diplomatic; event management.
elevated aspect from mars supportive of health-employment;


rahu the node sag 6th, ambitious, sportive, impulsive,
able to overcome challenges-opponents tactfully.


ketu opp gemini 12th, hyper-analytical; foreign lands;
rational approach to spirituality, realisations through pain,
pain-injury chest-lungs-feet etc


mer debilated pisces 9th, emotional-confused;
jup lord 9th over 4th quadrant, debilation cancelled,

gradual improvement in luck-edu-foreign/distant travels;
mer elevated aspect over virgo 3rd promoting writings etc


taurus-venus 11th inimical for cancer asc,
venus aries 10th artistic aptitudes, charismatic leadership,

gains through career, but under stress-delays,
jup aspect aries supportive;

venus negating 11th negating friendships-relationship thereby;
prone to head-knee-kidney issues etc;

sat debilated aspect over venus-aries 10th to note;
career issues; jup aspect protective;

mars lord 10th debilated over cancer 12th;

asc lord moon over 6th prone to health issues and hardwork;
mars elevated aspect supportive of health-employment though.


moon aspect own cancer 12th, mars debilation cancelled,

gradual improvement in health-expenses-foreign lands etc,
volatile emotions-finances though;

mars cancer suppressed anger; non-assertive;


sun-sat own acq 8th,
success amidst adversity hopefully;

strained relationships with father-family probably;
autocratic attitude;

admin and reforms aptitude; statistical research;


jup lord 6th over 4th libra, affecting
domestic comforts, mother, health, property matters,
heart-lungs-liver affected;

advisory aptitudes; jup lord 9th for luck over 4th;

currently jup transit natal jup libra 4th under stress transit sq moon;
jup trine sun-sat acq 8th supportive of insurance admin/research etc;

currently ketu transit sun-sat acq coming 1.5yr,
prone to pain-injury-surgery;

rahu transit leo 2nd scope of income through foreign sources;

rahu-ketu transit 2/8 houses prone to sudden happenings in life;


sat past 2.5yrs transit rahu-sag 6th good for employment prospects,
though under stress transit 12th from moon; a mixed bag;


sat now next moves to own cap-moon 6th good for employment,
again under stress-struggle transit opp mars, health and employment;


jup sooner moves to passionate scorpio 5th
for luck-edu-romance-children-position/promotion,
trine own pisces-mer 9th for luck-edu-children-travels;
trine elevated aspect over mars cancer 12th for health-foreign lands;



hope observations help, do share feedbacks and trends in relevance,

wishing well,


kshantaram


appreciate caring to clarify, whose chart you were referring to and that you have the permission from your friend.

any feedbacks on the reading offered, in relevance, insightful-useful, true/untrue etc,

wishing her well,


kshantaram
 
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detectahead

Well-known member
1) Thanks for your best regards.

2) "August forum?" :confused:

3) Interestingly enough you insisted on learning the indentity of the woman this chart belongs to, after you realised that I don't buy your half-baked nonsense about considering a planet which is in conjunction to the ninth house cusp as being in the eighth. What a clever attempt to contradict me. Nice timing. :)


Thanks for admitting that responding to you is a waste of time.
Your the type of person who looks at things in one way, yours. So keep your tunnel vision shades on
 
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