Midpoints tips & trucs

Bas Astro Service

Bas Astro Service

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Hi Poyi,

For interpreting midpoints you simply combine the energies that the planets represent.

Moon/Pluto=Asc
You distinguish yourself as an intensely caring, deep feeling, emotional powerful woman.
You distinguish your identity by being someone with psychological insight.
You distinguish yourself by your intense feelings about family.
You distinguish your identity through the magic of mother nature, as a healer, a sorceress.

Moon/Pluto=MC
A vocation that requires intense care and emotional profundity.
An inborn tenacity and psychological insight. Inborn skill to transform profound emotions.
Inborn skill for emotional research.

Moon/Pluto=Jupiter
A lot of emotional transformations. Lucky sexual instincts.
Success can be accomplished through … overcoming power struggles with women …
overcoming feelings of jealousy … helping healing emotional abused women…
by searching through memories, emotions… intense caring… etc. etc.
Expansion by studying psychology and taboos.
Counsellor, Psychologist, Psychoanalyst, Guru.

Jupiter/Mc=Asc
You distinguish your identity by your successful, extensive vocational skills.
You distinguish your identity by your skill for multitasking.
You Distinguish your identity in a multifaceted profession.

Mercury/Part fortune=Jupiter
Successful and fortunate communicator. Fortunate contacts with foreigners, through travel.
A lot of fortunate thoughts. Expansion can be accomplished through fortunate communications.
Fortunate contacts by helping, teaching, studying, broaden horizons.
Happiness can be accomplished through fortunate communication.
Speaking, writing (siblings, pets, service) brings happiness.
A fortunate mind by helping.
 
poyi

poyi

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Bas Astro Service said:
Hi Poyi,

For interpreting midpoints you simply combine the energies that the planets represent.

Moon/Pluto=Asc
You distinguish yourself as an intensely caring, deep feeling, emotional powerful woman.
You distinguish your identity by being someone with psychological insight.
You distinguish yourself by your intense feelings about family.
You distinguish your identity through the magic of mother nature, as a healer, a sorceress.

Moon/Pluto=MC
A vocation that requires intense care and emotional profundity.
An inborn tenacity and psychological insight. Inborn skill to transform profound emotions.
Inborn skill for emotional research.

Moon/Pluto=Jupiter
A lot of emotional transformations. Lucky sexual instincts.
Success can be accomplished through … overcoming power struggles with women …
overcoming feelings of jealousy … helping healing emotional abused women…
by searching through memories, emotions… intense caring… etc. etc.
Expansion by studying psychology and taboos.
Counsellor, Psychologist, Psychoanalyst, Guru.

Jupiter/Mc=Asc
You distinguish your identity by your successful, extensive vocational skills.
You distinguish your identity by your skill for multitasking.
You Distinguish your identity in a multifaceted profession.

Mercury/Part fortune=Jupiter
Successful and fortunate communicator. Fortunate contacts with foreigners, through travel.
A lot of fortunate thoughts. Expansion can be accomplished through fortunate communications.
Fortunate contacts by helping, teaching, studying, broaden horizons.
Happiness can be accomplished through fortunate communication.
Speaking, writing (siblings, pets, service) brings happiness.
A fortunate mind by helping.
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Thank you for your interpretation they are very accurate and I do felt energy of these midpoints often and quite significant to me; both the midpoints and overview of chart interpretations are confirming each other. I have profound drive of transforming traumas, the darkest side of human heart into powerful healing opportunity on one self and on others. I see myself as always already to conquer and combate difficulties within myself and assisting others. I am very lucky that life has been very clear to me I found what I value the most early and easily without wondering wasting my youth seeking for clarity.
 
theV

theV

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I still don't understand the diffrence between the ASC/MC and SUN/MOON midpoint could some clarify them for me ?
 
theV

theV

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Bas Astro Service said:
If you enjoy traveling or want to emigrate it is also interesting
to apply midpoints on the entire planet Earth.

Clever trick to quickly find your place on earth;

Search at your Astrocartography (Astroclick travel on Astro.com) the main Ascendant Midheaven planets lines of your chart
(Jupiter and Venus are nice for travel) take the exact middle between those 2 lines,the midpoint,
and calculate your midpoint chart for that location.

Change time and coordinates, adapt to that place on earth and
find the midpoints in exact aspect (45 degrees) with Ascendant and Midheaven.

Ascendant for relations with others, marriage.
Midheaven for vocation and career, housing.
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I also find out that america asteroid parallal my part of fortune
 
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The_Saturnian

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theV said:
I still don't understand the diffrence between the ASC/MC and SUN/MOON midpoint could some clarify them for me ?
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Each planetary and planetary pair midpoint(s) has an independent interpretation based on the themes/characteristics associated with the planets involved. E.g. The Asc/MC would relate to subject's personality/look and their career and Sun/Moon relate to characteristics related to the Sun and the Moon. You could try Google them for an online interpretation for each pair.
 
theV

theV

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The_Saturnian said:
Each planetary and planetary pair midpoint(s) has an independent interpretation based on the themes/characteristics associated with the planets involved. E.g. The Asc/MC would relate to subject's personality/look and their career and Sun/Moon relate to characteristics related to the Sun and the Moon. You could try Google them for an online interpretation for each pair.
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Thank you :smile: I was confused about those two cause they both relate to identity
 
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The_Saturnian

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theV said:
Thank you :smile: I was confused about those two cause they both relate to identity
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Anytime! Yes the Sun is about your personality and the Ascendant is actually "you". Not an easy one to weigh up. But in order to ascertain which is one is applicable will be determined by the very strength of both midpoints and the aspects they receive and make.
 
fullmoonlibra

fullmoonlibra

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Bas, you are a very generous person really..
I want to thank you here again for your generosity.
Because of you, I now know about midpoints and how useful they are :joyful::joyful:
 
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The_Saturnian

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theV said:
What are your opinions about Lilith/Asc/Mc midpoint
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I haven't the foggiest about those as I have not really understood the role of Lilith in astrology just yet. But the Asc/MC are probably to do with the subject's inner self and how they relate it to their career and/or public life.
 
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Gorgina

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What does it mean, when midpoints conjunct each other?

I have Sun/Mars = Saturn/Pluto in 1st house.
 
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The Ram

The Ram

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The_Saturnian said:
Did you fight in a MMA tournament? or something similar in the past?
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Nah. I train mma though. I'd like to compete sometime, luckily I havn't lost any steps or suffered any injuries so I have a good sized window to do it yet. I've always been extremely talented with it.

What I meant by martial is that my soul has a history of violence and mars related things.
 
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The_Saturnian

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It would explain the affiliation you seem to have with martial training. Perhaps it was something that you yearned for in a previous life so much that you ended becoming trained in MMA. I have had similar urges in the past (Sun closely conjunct Mars in Leo).
 
theV

theV

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I was checking up some of places in astromap:

the best places for me to find love since my Venus/dc fall in those would be seattle,portland,washington,alberta,around california like sacramento

The best place for me to shine (mc) would be australia and japan sun conjunct mc and venus too and for (asc) it would saudi arabia and russia also venus on asc which mean I feel beautiful in the later area

jupiter/dc line is in the area of east of north america (generosity/tolerance)
 
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Bas Astro Service

Bas Astro Service

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Useful midpoints modulus:
45 modulus
22.5 modulus
Quindecile 165 degrees focus aspect.

Every hard aspect with the midpoint (45,90,135,180 or 0 and if you want: 22.5, 67.5, 112.5 and 157.5, too) makes a combination of 3.
 
Andrea_

Andrea_

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Helpful tips Bas!
I have just downloaded the AstroWin software and i must say it is very useful as far as midpoints are involved :D

As a person with a bundle chart, i guess it's inevitable that more planets conjunct some important Midpoints (the calculator takes into account only the ones under 1 degree), such as my Sun staying on the Moon/Pluto, Moon/Venus, and Saturn/Chiron Midpoints.

Neptune is also quite impressive as it conjuncts the Moon/ASC, Venus/ASC, Merc/Uranus, Mars/Uranus and Saturn/Pluto midpoints (and, although unrelated, Part of Astrology too :)) )

Mercury conjunct the Neptune/ASC midpoint.

Mars also conjuncts the Sun/Moon, Sun/Venus midpoints and the Pluto/Node one.

ASC conjunct the Uranus/Jupiter midpoint, Pluto the Mercury/Chiron, Uranus= Venus/Neptune and Moon/Neptune, MC= Pluto/NN
and one formed of outer planets, Jupiter conj the Neptune/Pluto.

yet i have a lot of squares and semi-squares, such as Chiron square Sun/Neptune or Saturn square Neptune/MC. I wonder if squares/S.squares/Opposites can negatively affect the expression of the midpoints, or just "neutrally" activate them?

Here are some really nice interpretations by Sandbach of each individual midpoint aspected... i didn't really find anything else explaining them en detail:
http://johnsandbach.com/?page_id=7243
 
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Viper

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Bas Astro Service said:
Will show an method, that will highlight your most significant midpoints.
You can use my chart as example.
There are multiple other methods possible. But this one works well.

Click on link to see an example of my Midpoints list, and Midpoints Tree example,
(45 degrees modulus orb2.30).

How to work with this midpoint listing...first search the midpoint in the Planetary Sequence,
remember the degree of the midpoint...now search the degree in the Sorted by Angle section,
here we can search for matches.

1. Find the main planets in your horoscope. (Read the link, if you don't know how)
What is your Astro ID ?

Note your Astro ID planets, and add the planets from the aspect with the closest orb.
*Peregrine planet(s) =the calling planet(s)
*Angular planet(s)
*Oriental planet = the planet of orientation (skip Mercury and Venus)
*Closest orb aspect planets

(If you don’t have Peregrine and Angular planets don’t worry, and note the others)
Exception: If the North node and/or Aries Point are angular with IC or Midheaven, add ...MC.

Combine these to midpoints !

...in my chart Mars(angular) /Jupiter(peregrine) /Neptune* Pluto/Pluto(Oriental)
are the Astro ID and the closest orb aspect planets.

Mars/Jupiter/Neptune/Pluto

...BAS example
Mars/Jupiter
Mars/Neptune
Mars/Pluto
Jupiter/Neptune
Jupiter/Pluto
Neptune/Pluto

Search in the Midpoint listing if these midpoints match with the Astro ID planets.(Orb2.30)

...BAS example
Mars/Jupiter (no Astro ID match)
Mars/Neptune=Pluto (match) (orb 0.19)
Mars/Neptune=Jupiter (match) (orb 1.00)
Mars/Pluto=Neptune (match) (orb 0.35)
Jupiter/Neptune (no Astro ID match)
Jupiter/Pluto (no Astro ID match)
Neptune/Pluto=Mars (match) (orb 0.55)

All these(Astro ID)midpoints are very important!
Which match has the closest orb ? That one is mainly important!

No matches? Want more matches?
Search for more important matches with other planets(Orb2.30)and/or midpoints(orb 1.00).

...BAS example
Mars/Neptune=Moon (orb 2.16)
Mars/Pluto=Mercury (orb 0.36)
Jupiter/Neptune=MC (orb 0.40)
Jupiter/Pluto=Uranus (orb 1.39)
Jupiter/Pluto=Sun (orb.0.38)
Jupiter/Pluto=North node (orb 2.07)

Mars/Jupiter=Mercury/Neptune
Mars/Neptune=Venus/Saturn=Pluto (match)
Mars/Neptune=Moon/Pluto=Jupiter (match)
Jupiter/Neptune=Mercury/Pluto=MC
Jupiter/Pluto=Mercury/Mars=Sun
Jupiter/Pluto=Mercury/Mars=North node
Jupiter/Pluto=Mercury/Mars=Uranus
Jupiter/Pluto=Sun/Uranus
Neptune/Pluto=Moon/Venus=Mars (match)
Neptune/Pluto=Saturn/Uranus

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2. Search for matches with the important Sun/Moon, Asc/MC, Midheaven, Ascendant
an add the planets in mutual reception, if you have them.

Moon/Sun -Planets(orb2.30),midpoints(orb 1.00)
ASc/MC -Planets(orb2.30),midpoints(orb 1.00)
MC - midpoints(orb 2.30)
Asc. - midpoints(orb 2.30)
...< > ... ? note (.../...) -Planets(orb2.30),midpoints(orb 1.00)

...BAS example
Moon/Sun=Venus
Moon/Sun=Neptune
Moon/Sun=Uranus/Pluto
Moon/Sun=Venus/Neptune
Moon/Sun=Moon/Node

Asc/MC=Jupiter
Asc/MC=Pluto
Asc/MC=Venus/Mars=Jupiter
Asc/MC=Venus/Mars=Pluto
Asc/MC=Venus/Saturn=Jupiter
Asc/MC=Venus/Saturn=Pluto
Asc/MC=Mars/Neptune=Jupiter
Asc/MC=Mars/Neptune=Pluto

MC=Moon/Mercury=Venus
MC=Jupiter/Neptune
MC=Jupiter/Neptune=Mercury/Pluto
MC=Mercury/Pluto
MC=Venus/Jupiter
MC=Sun/Pluto=Venus

Asc=Jupiter/Uranus
Asc=Sun/Jupiter
Asc=Mercury/Venus

Venus/Jupiter=MC
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3. Organize the found midpoints in 1. and 2.
Are there midpoints that occur repeatedly? Those are very significant!
Which have the closest orb?
Add the midpoints in your chart drawing !

...BAS example


Mars/Jupiter=Mercury/Neptune
Mars/Neptune=Moon
Mars/Neptune=Jupiter (Astro ID match)
Mars/Neptune=Moon/Pluto=Jupiter (match)
Mars/Neptune=Pluto (Astro ID match) *(repeatedly)* (orb 0.19)
Mars/Neptune=Venus/Saturn=Pluto (match)
Mars/Pluto=Mercury
Mars/Pluto=Neptune (Astro ID match) *(repeatedly)*
Jupiter/Neptune=MC *(repeatedly)*
Jupiter/Pluto=Sun
Jupiter/Pluto=Mercury/Mars=Sun
Jupiter/Pluto=Uranus
Jupiter/Pluto=Sun/Uranus
Jupiter/Pluto=Mercury/Mars=Uranus
Jupiter/Pluto=North node
Jupiter/Pluto=Mercury/Mars=North node
Neptune/Pluto=Mars (Astro ID match) *(repeatedly)*
Neptune/Pluto=Moon/Venus=Mars (match)
Neptune/Pluto=Saturn/Uranus

Moon/Sun=Venus
Moon/Sun=Neptune (Astro ID match)
Moon/Sun=Venus/Neptune *(repeatedly)*
Moon/Sun=Uranus/Pluto
Moon/Sun=Moon/Node

Asc/MC=Jupiter (Astro ID match)
Asc/MC=Pluto (Astro ID match)
Asc/MC=Venus/Mars=Jupiter (Astro ID match)
Asc/MC=Venus/Mars=Pluto (Astro ID match)
Asc/MC=Venus/Saturn=Jupiter (Astro ID match)
Asc/MC=Venus/Saturn=Pluto (Astro ID match) (orb0.08)
Asc/MC=Mars/Neptune=Jupiter (Astro ID match)
Asc/MC=Mars/Neptune=Pluto (Astro ID match)

MC=Moon/Mercury=Venus
MC=Jupiter/Neptune (Astro ID match) *(repeatedly)*
MC=Jupiter/Neptune=Mercury/Pluto
MC=Mercury/Pluto
MC=Venus/Jupiter *( repeatedly)*
MC=Sun/Pluto=Venus

Asc=Jupiter/Uranus (orb 0.26)
Asc=Sun/Jupiter
Asc=Mercury/Venus

Venus/Jupiter=MC *( repeatedly)*
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  • AstroID-Midpoints = Astrological identity.
  • Asc/MC= Identity projection. ​
  • Sun/Moon= Motivation , and vocation.​
  • Asc= Identity distinction.​
  • MC= Shape of vocation, shaped & inborn skills.​
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I know I'm late on this topic but I was interested in what you point out which was the angularity. I've heard having planets in angular house are significant. I have planets in angular houses but there not conjunct the angle other than Saturn. here the link to my chart http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk253/yvetterocks101/spica-1.jpg
 
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