JUPITERASC
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Certainly there are multiple proclamations allegingWe have to begin at the beginning when it comes to knowledge of the Earth's Ages.
And it began with the more easily discovered sidereal Ages, using the V.P. as the transiting Age-indicator, which works as a transiting indicator sidereally, but not tropically (for the reason previously stated).
In your Aldebaran-centered coordinates, the Earth's sidereal, Age-indicator position is currently 5 degrees Pisces. At 71.6 years per degree of retrograde movement, it won't reach your boundary between sidereal Pisces and sidereal Aquarius for another 358 years.
Those proclaiming that the Earth's sidereal Aquarian Age has already begun, aren't using Aldebaran for their version of the sidereal zodiac.
"beginning of the Age of Aquarius"
as often mentioned by dr. farr
It's important for me to determine whether it's understood that there are both siderealy located Ages of Earth, AND tropically located Ages. The "confusion-factor" is, that the Earth's sidereal Age-indicator is retrograde, approaching (or, already in, depending on the ayanamsa being used) sidereal Aquarius; whereas, the tropical Age-indicator is located using a different, albeit appropriate, terrestrial characteristic, and has direct motion as it approaches tropical Aquarius.
Remember Jupiter and Saturn outermost known planets in ancient times
were called the "Great Chronocrators" by astrologers of old.
For millennia, the alignment of these two planets
has been regarded as a significator of great social, economic
and political watersheds
- historic turning points, if you will.
Jupiter's alignment with Saturn occurs at intervals of just under 20 years.
The aspect is occasionally repeated due to a retrograde of one or both planets.
Every third conjunction
- once every 60 years
- brings the alignment back to its starting place, plus around 9 degrees:
this 60 year cycle is termed the first order recurrence of the conjunction.
Every 40th conjunction
- roughly once every 800 years
- brings the alignment back to within about 1 degree of its starting place:
this approximate 800 year cycle is termed the second order recurrence
astrologically known as the Great Mutation cycle.
Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions occur in signs of the same element
for a mean period of a bit less than 200 years at a stretch
typically with some overlap at the beginning and end of the cycle.
For example, the cycle of conjunctions in tropical earth signs
(Taurus, Virgo and Capricorn)
was initiated 26 January 1842
and concluded on May 28, 2000.
This cycle was interrupted by December 31, 1980 - July 24, 1981
triple conjunction in Tropical Libra.
For more on the current earth sign series
read "The White House, the Great Chronocrator & Tecumseh's Curse"
The previous Great Chronocrator cycle in the fire signs
(Aries, Leo, Sagittarius) began with the 1663 alignment
and ended with the one in 1821
having been interrupted by the 1802 conjunction in Virgo.
The next cycle of Jupiter-Saturn conjunction will be in signs of Tropical air element
(Gemini, Libra and Aquarius).
It begins with the 21 December 2020 Tropical alignment and concludes with the 2199 conjunction
broken up by the 2159 conjunction in Scorpio.
Following that comes the series in Tropical water signs
(Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces), from 2219 to 2378
(interrupted by the 2338 alignment in the fire sign Sagittarius).
The change of element in a GREAT CHRONOCRATOR series
is known as the Trigonalis, OR GREAT MUTATION
from ancient times considered as the hallmark of epochal social and political change.
On average, this occurs only once every couple hundred years or so.
From this Tropical perspective, it would seem that we are now living
in the twilight of an historical epoch stretching from the 1840s to 2020.
Triple conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn are rare enough
to be regarded as indicators of major cultural change, much like the Trigonalis.
It was just such a triple conjunction in Tropical Pisces
– anciently regarded as the sign of the Jews
- that led the Magi to search for "The King of the Jews" in 7 BCE.
(Magi translates as 'astrologers'.)
There have been only two triple conjunctions in the current Tropical earth sign series
that being the 1940-41 and 1980-81 trios
the latter being the 'interruptor' alignment in Tropical Libra
that broke the Tropical all-earth sign series begun in 1842.
There won't be another triple conjunction until the 2238-39 series in Tropical Cancer.
keep in mind obviously
that the above conjunctions vary elementally
when factored in Sidereal calculations