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Unread 07-24-2019, 02:09 PM
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Re: Anyone here a truther/woke person?

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There is a difference between one who seeks the truth, and one who labels themselves as a "truther" (myraid of problems associated with such). As CP so poignantly expressed earlier.

Your demand for "evidence to support such claims" is evident of this. Do you believe every 'truth' that exists is found in concrete factual evidence that you can point to? Can the totality of what you find to be true of existence be compounded and reduced to a single piece of evidence, or what you call "proof"? How do you define such "proof"? What parameters are used? Under what conditions are such "proofs" acceptable as verifiable truth? Are all "proofs" for the totality of all things that exist evident at this very exact point in time?

What I said earlier, it either resonates with you or it doesn't. You may not understand it now, 6 months from now, or even 5 years from the time of writing it. When you do, if ever, then what? When it finally does, will it then be a truth? However, for all those years it was a lie?

Do you have to have a series of books, endless amounts of data, and an entire panel of commentators to "verify" a truth? Do you need such to validate your own experiences?

A problem within these circles, like everything else, is the lack of balance that has a tendency to happen. You look at "conspiracies" until you end up with a conspiratorial mind. The information is one thing. How you process it is another subject entirely. It is the minds (complexity of such) involved with the subject matters. Not the subject matters themselves.

Your demand for "proof" from a simple observation pretty much explains this.
Well are you trying to say that proof for a claim can be found in anything other than concrete data/evidence?

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Unread 07-24-2019, 02:54 PM
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Re: Anyone here a truther/woke person?

Please define


a. Truther


b. woke person


c. Illuminati
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Unread 07-24-2019, 07:58 PM
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I'm sorry, sincerely, if my language is too strong (English isn't my first language btw), but I was talking about an unpleasant memory and I didn't have any nice thing to say about that man. Long story short, he was a cult leader and he brainwashed people into lifeless, selfish hulks. I got to meet him once and he said he was to build an army of "God's greatest children", which in reality was just brainwashed people worshipping him. I was rather traumatized by my time around him and I was glad I wasn't brainwashed.

And to understand what I mean by truther and less fortunate people, I need to explain the situation back then. The cult was built around the belief that the world was run by a "Divine Entity", the cult leader was the messenger of that entity, and he simply passed on the teaching to the members. He taught that basically you were a vice being at birth, fooled by the "devils" into believing in this reality, and you had no one to blame but yourself for every misfortune in your life. The only way to become "enlightened" was to follow his teaching, which consisted of fasting, shunning certain food and medical care (the devils' products), praying to the high entity, etc... As a result the teen I was talking about came to view everyone with misfortune as vice. A person with a birth defect was a demon worshipper to him. He once told a kid whose father just died that her family had it coming because of their impure way of living. Yeah, you get the picture. Deep down, that teen was just looking for something edgy to believe to make himself feel better. There was nothing noble in his cynicism toward other people.

I have a feeling the OP's definition of "woke" is something similar to that teen, knowing cynical facts of life that the masses aren't supposed to know. So, my point was that just because you are exposed to clever-sounding things doesn't mean you are "woke", and if you don't do anything with your "woke" status then there's no point being woke. Cynicism can just be a more convincing form of delusion.
Thank you for the clarification, it really helped put your words into context that could be better understood.

This is a perfect example where demanding evidence for such claims is appropriate.
Where the need to deeply research a subject is warranted.

Any "movement", community of "like-minded" individuals runs the risk of becoming a cult / being compromised by it's very nature. Whether intentional or not. It comes down to the minds involved.

When it comes to the "truth movement" or being a "truther" there is often times a noticeable contrast between those who are actively doing the research / compiling the information / investing their energy / who are fully integrated / engaging with the material & those who are merely on the receiving end.

I think many people within these communitues may find themselves to be ill-equipped to actually handle the material. To work with it.

It may be due to latent conditioning, stage of psychological development, their level of consciousness, lack of experiences- rites of passages, iniations, etc.

Personally, I feel it comes down to the mind of the individual. The workings of their mind. How they are actively engaging with the material.
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Iím ďwokeĒ as you plebs call it. However Iím not a true astrologer, so 🤔
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99.9% of people are ignorant and would be completely shocked to learn whatís truly going on in this world
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This is going over my head 😂 lol

So much more to astrology than I thought until I came on here.
Iím glad Iím here though
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Re: Anyone here a truther/woke person?

Most conspiracy theories are completely bogus, propagated by people who checked their critical thinking faculties at the door. The real conspiracies actually come out in daylight eventually, like Watergate.

So far as the government goes, you know the old saying:

"Never attribute to a conspiracy what you can attribute to sheer incompetence."
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Most conspiracy theories are completely bogus, propagated by people who checked their critical thinking faculties at the door. The real conspiracies actually come out in daylight eventually, like Watergate.

So far as the government goes, you know the old saying:

"Never attribute to a conspiracy what you can attribute to sheer incompetence."
Most conspiracy theories actually have more truth than people are comfortable enough to admit. People donít want to believe the grim truths. The rest are purposely orchestrated to make people who try to reveal the truths look ridiculous

People donít want to believe there may be far darker things going on in reality because itís deeply unsettling. But in order for humanity to actually progress, people have to be willing to see the truths

Letís see... human, child sacrifice is one of them. Thereís a video that was released recently showing a VERY important figure taunting a child whose face had been ripped off, wearing their face on their own face to further torture them. Thatís just a single, minuscule example in the scope of all thatís going on

Willing ignorance wonít change it

The very term Ďconspiracy theoristí was invented by the government to discredit people trying to reveal whatís really going on. And whatís going on is far deeper than child sex trafficking and torture

If you really believe youíre being told the truth, thatís just ignorance. Critical thinking would lead one to know theyíre not being told the truth and should use their own judgment, not listen like good little sheep to whatever the powers that be say

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Re: Anyone here a truther/woke person?

Just ask yourselves if thereís really any chance youíre not being lied to. Thatís critical thinking. Be willingly ignorant if you want, but thatís not critical thinking. Itís believing everything youíre told to believe and not thinking outside the box
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That video exists, but I donít urge people to watch it as it has made high up military generals have to seek therapy. But look it up enough to know it exists and then ask yourselves what else youíre not being told
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That video exists, but I donít urge people to watch it as it has made high up military generals have to seek therapy. But look it up enough to know it exists and then ask yourselves what else youíre not being told
I've haven't been following the recent trends. Got a lead I can follow? I haven't looked at gore in a while.
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I've haven't been following the recent trends. Got a lead I can follow? I haven't looked at gore in a while.
I am so hesitant to even search for it. Iíve heard from some people who did see it and it made them sick. Whatís horrible Ian theyíre trying to pass the video off as fake and of course some of the willingly ignorant folk will believe that rather than pay attention to all the signs
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-snuff-film/

Apparently you can find it on the dark web
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I heard from a source a month ago that Samsung will come out with tech that can turn pics to videos and itíll be used to discredit the videos of horrible acts of inhumanity. So weíll see if that happens
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Re: Anyone here a truther/woke person?

That is so much uglier than pentagrams spray painted in saturnine fabrics. Who do you suppose made up these rites?
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Re: Anyone here a truther/woke person?

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I am so hesitant to even search for it. Iíve heard from some people who did see it and it made them sick. Whatís horrible Ian theyíre trying to pass the video off as fake and of course some of the willingly ignorant folk will believe that rather than pay attention to all the signs
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hi...on-snuff-film/

Apparently you can find it on the dark web
Cool, I'll follow up on this when I'm free tomorrow. Thanks Lykanized.
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That is so much uglier than pentagrams spray painted in saturnine fabrics. Who do you suppose made up these rites?
Oddly, Saturn is a symbol Iíve heard pop up ceaselessly in the past 2 days. I want to start talking about whatís going on behind all of the child sex trafficking and torture and all, but Iíll keep quiet on that for now. Saturn may be involved tho
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Re: Anyone here a truther/woke person?

Must be. I am not understanding this leaden, miserable part of astrological magic at all. It seems far removed from the whole of the numerous patterns in the nature.
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Must be. I am not understanding this leaden, miserable part of astrological magic at all. It seems far removed from the whole of the numerous patterns in the nature.
Can you expound? Iím afraid to admit I donít understand 😬
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Re: Anyone here a truther/woke person?

Yeah Im def not watching any thing on the dark web then.
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Re: Anyone here a truther/woke person?

I just wanna say, the only reason I care so much about this is because this world is currently very very broken and the only way it can even begin to come together again is if people face the dark truths of what it is. There are individuals who want people to believe that all it is is a bunch of mad conspiracy theory because it keeps them in power. Power is in the mind and so long as peoplesí minds are enslaved, itíll just get worse and worse. Liberating the mind is a matter of will. If people just assume anyone who doesnít blindly believe every conception of reality delivered to them my higher powers in this world is correct are just mad, illogical, lacking in critical thinking, the cage stays firmly locked. The key is in fact right there in the cage
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Yeah Im def not watching any thing on the dark web then.
Me neither. I couldnít stomach it. I mean this video made hardened military men need therapy. People I heard from became physically sick. And this video is just scratching the surface too
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Me neither. I couldnít stomach it. I mean this video made hardened military men need therapy. People I heard from became physically sick. And this video is just scratching the surface too
Ok then it's definitely a real video then. Sad the lengths the elite will go to hide their crimes.
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Ok then it's definitely a real video then. Sad the lengths the elite will go to hide their crimes.
Truly. Because thereís so much at stake. If humanity was to wake up and realize how much power it has, those who wish to cause it harm would be more than dead!

I donít know if this is just gonna sound mad or not to you, or perhaps you already know it, but the ones whoíve enslaved humanity and who use the elite as pawns are not human. Iím not sure, but it is possible some of the elite arenít even human. Iím fact, theyíre far less powerful than humans and the only way they could ever hold power over by humanity is by orchestrating a plan in which they manipulate humanity into enslaving itself

If all of humanity was to come together and put their minds to it, without any physical effort whatsoever, they could make every ill, every bit of corruption, every horror just disappear

What are the things you know about whatís going on in the world, Yony?
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Truly. Because there’s so much at stake. If humanity was to wake up and realize how much power it has, those who wish to cause it harm would be more than dead!

I don’t know if this is just gonna sound mad or not to you, or perhaps you already know it, but the ones who’ve enslaved humanity and who use the elite as pawns are not human. I’m not sure, but it is possible some of the elite aren’t even human. I’m fact, they’re far less powerful than humans and the only way they could ever hold power over by humanity is by orchestrating a plan in which they manipulate humanity into enslaving itself

If all of humanity was to come together and put their minds to it, without any physical effort whatsoever, they could make every ill, every bit of corruption, every horror just disappear

What are the things you know about what’s going on in the world, Yony?
Yep im aware of that. There are bloodlines to the illuminati and multiple demonic races for each bloodline, each one is talked about in the bible. The illuminati have either become those demons or have possessed themselves with them.

Yep given how God has intended for everything to work, you are only a slave to another entity if you are mentally a slave to them. If you aren't you won't be treated like a slave to that entity.

I agree if humanity were to come together and do that all the evil would end. Sadly, that won't ever happen, as we are following bible prophecy, in which the vast majority of humanity stays unaware of the darkness of our reality until the world ends.
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Can you expound? Iím afraid to admit I donít understand 😬
Haha Iíve noticed when typing on mobile I take a lot of shortcuts, sorry..

I just mean itís amazing and very saturnine when ritualists take the patterns present in nature, which is frankly obsessed with beauty, and boil them down to the essence like pentagons, pentagrams, and phi, and yet their rites, symbols, emotional content, behaviors, and such are just starkly fugly.

That also seems like a willful and demonic perversion of Saturn energy to me. David put it succinctly on another thread, that Saturn is overseeing the sawing off of the branch upon which we all sit.. Makes no sense for Saturn the architect.

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