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You identify more with Venus in Scorpio than Sagittarius?

My Venus goes from tropical Taurus to sidereal Aries. I'm told my Venus in Taurus fits pretty well though
When I researched Sag venus it doesn't feel to me it fits. Sag likes adventure. Sag is laid back in their dress sense. I'm very dressy. My love life may have been kind of like an adventure but it wasn't enjoyable and out of choice. I wanted to settle down and i can admit I'm quite possessive and Intense. I can't see the sag. The Sag placement is intercepted too.

With you do you feel like more venus in Aries or taurus. You say people say it fits but how do you feel?

BTW hows your health since the hospital visit?

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Wow, a 4 degree difference, depending on the ayanamsa! What degree is your tropical Moon?
Yeah it's really interesting! That degree difference is pretty notable in how it affects Vedic time periods.

Like under Lahiri (I think), I'm currently in a Saturn-Ketu dasha as of October 2018 and it will shift over to Saturn-Venus on November 28, 2019.

Whereas under my friend's calculations (he uses True Revati and some other tweaks I think?), I'm in Saturn-Moon dasha as of August 21st, 2019 and it will end March 22, 2021.

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Apart from the venus in Scorpio, I can't relate to Vedic. My NN cancer is in the 12th instead of 11th. Western it was Leo which I relate to more.

I don't dismiss it but I just need to know more to be able to relate. I went to a Hindu astrologer for life insights and he was spot on. What he sai happened. He is based in a Temple. The whole surrounding area of Hindus and Sikhs go to him. Sikhism does not do Astrology but a lot still believe as before Sikhs they were Hindus long ago.
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I'm of the opinion that both tropical and sidereal Charts are operative. They're on different wavelengths, and you can follow one or the other, or consider them both at once. Although, tropical is more geared to the mundane, dealing with our material existence, and sidereal is more attuned to our spiritual pursuits. In my own case, I have a spiritually oriented tropical Chart, and a materialistically oriented sidereal configuration. Sort of a reverse crossover.
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I'm of the opinion that both tropical and sidereal Charts are operative. They're on different wavelengths, and you can follow one or the other, or consider them both at once. Although, tropical is more geared to the mundane, dealing with our material existence, and sidereal is more attuned to our spiritual pursuits. In my own case, I have a spiritually oriented tropical Chart, and a materialistically oriented sidereal configuration. Sort of a reverse crossover.
How and why is it reversed? If the Vedic/Sidereal is spiritual where does Draconic lie within that. I thought Draconic was your 'soul' chart?
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Oh and also, apparently you have to look at where the moon was transiting in the sky at the time of the dasha change over or w/e. Like when I went into the new Saturn-Moon dasha, apparently the Moon was in a good position from Saturn or something and then you look at the way your natal chart is to see what areas are emphasized. I don't really know. This was literally all explained to me yesterday, because I could barely remember what an ayanamsha was until then. lol
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When I researched Sag venus it doesn't feel to me it fits. Sag likes adventure. Sag is laid back in their dress sense. I'm very dressy. My love life may have been kind of like an adventure but it wasn't enjoyable and out of choice. I wanted to settle down and i can admit I'm quite possessive and Intense. I can't see the sag. The Sag placement is intercepted too.

With you do you feel like more venus in Aries or taurus. You say people say it fits but how do you feel?

BTW hows your health since the hospital visit?
Oh I see, I've wondered about interceptions myself, but not too much. Like I don't have any intercepted planets, but Aquarius and Leo are intercepted in the 1st and 7th respectively.

Venus in Taurus makes sense to me. I see Venus in Taurus as a long-term relationship kinda placement and that's true for me. I'm pretty serious about that sort of thing and I do tend to stick to a couple friends at most at a time. I also really love nice things. lol Like I love delicious rich foods and pretty clothes and I have this very big attraction to silky feeling textures. I love satin. To be honest, I have gold satin bed sheets and as a kid, I'd run around clothing stores at malls rubbing my face on anything silky or satiny until I got yelled at too much.

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Apart from the venus in Scorpio, I can't relate to Vedic. My NN cancer is in the 12th instead of 11th. Western it was Leo which I relate to more.

I don't dismiss it but I just need to know more to be able to relate. I went to a Hindu astrologer for life insights and he was spot on. What he sai happened. He is based in a Temple. The whole surrounding area of Hindus and Sikhs go to him. Sikhism does not do Astrology but a lot still believe as before Sikhs they were Hindus long ago.
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I'm of the opinion that both tropical and sidereal Charts are operative. They're on different wavelengths, and you can follow one or the other, or consider them both at once. Although, tropical is more geared to the mundane, dealing with our material existence, and sidereal is more attuned to our spiritual pursuits. In my own case, I have a spiritually oriented tropical Chart, and a materialistically oriented sidereal configuration. Sort of a reverse crossover.
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How and why is it reversed? If the Vedic/Sidereal is spiritual where does Draconic lie within that. I thought Draconic was your 'soul' chart?
I didn't read this closely enough, but I saw 'tropical' and 'reversed' and thought oh hey, does David reverse the zodiac for the southern hemisphere?? Idk why. lol
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Oh I see, I've wondered about interceptions myself, but not too much. Like I don't have any intercepted planets, but Aquarius and Leo are intercepted in the 1st and 7th respectively.

Venus in Taurus makes sense to me. I see Venus in Taurus as a long-term relationship kinda placement and that's true for me. I'm pretty serious about that sort of thing and I do tend to stick to a couple friends at most at a time. I also really love nice things. lol Like I love delicious rich foods and pretty clothes and I have this very big attraction to silky feeling textures. I love satin. To be honest, I have gold satin bed sheets and as a kid, I'd run around clothing stores at malls rubbing my face on anything silky or satiny until I got yelled at too much.
Wow Gold silk.....loving it

How do you feel with your first and 7th? Do you feel 'stuck' in that area.
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How and why is it reversed? If the Vedic/Sidereal is spiritual where does Draconic lie within that. I thought Draconic was your 'soul' chart?
Haven't tried it yet. Since the Moon's NN locates the 1st Point of Aries, instead of the Sun's position at Equinox, there's no way to know any of your Signs without the calculator. Each Chart has different Sign positions depending on the NN, rather than the tropical calendar. How are the Houses set? Still using the Ascendant?
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Haven't tried it yet. Since the Moon's NN locates the 1st Point of Aries, instead of the Sun's position at Equinox, there's no way to know any of your Signs without the calculator. Each Chart has different Sign positions depending on the NN, rather than the tropical calendar. How are the Houses set? Still using the Ascendant?
Yes i have looked at my draconic chart and it starts with ascendant. its a completed change.

sun leo, rising taurus, moon aries.
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I didn't read this closely enough, but I saw 'tropical' and 'reversed' and thought oh hey, does David reverse the zodiac for the southern hemisphere?? Idk why. lol
Southern hemispheric astrologers appear to be using the same tropical Signs as in the Northern hemisphere. The only difference is, the Northern seasonal metaphors don't work the same. Astrology doesn't require them though. For example, Sagittarius can fit as the last Sign of Spring, instead of the last of Fall. As for Capricorn, Santa is pictured as riding a surfboard pulled by dolphins since Christmas occurs near the beginning of Summer instead of Winter.
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Yes i have looked at my draconic chart and it starts with ascendant. its a completed change.

sun leo, rising taurus, moon aries.
The Aspects will remain the same though.
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The Aspects will remain the same though.
Yes i was going to add the aspects are still the same. So i still have the boring stellium in 3rd and the stellium in first.

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Yes i was going to add the aspects are still the same. So i still have the boring stellium in 3rd and the stellium in first.

Santa lol
In different Signs, though. That can alter their influence.
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In different Signs, though. That can alter their influence.
In cancer 3rd house...c'mon DS, its the 3rd house. It's boring! From Sag to wet Cancer! wOOOHOOOO LOL

Well joking aside i get what you are saying. I think Draconic needs researching to understand it more. I think maybe the Western NN becomes your Sun. Just a guess here.
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I have been looking at my Natal chart. MC Cancer. I find it strange as im a cap sun and have drive - mars is there - and ambition. MC what does anyone know about it. I only know the 'pop' astrology of it.
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MC can represent carreer (with 6th and 2nd). But is a lot more than this.
You need to look at the moon to understand it, because you don't relate with Cancer MC, and it's not surprising.. your Moon is in Leo, it's not the same element and interests

10th house represent your social development in society, your status and reputation, It's the success or failure (or both) in public area. How you want to appear (or not) in public, in front of people that don't know you, or people you didn't met since a longtime for example

10th house can also represent a parent

This house shows goals, sometimes "destiny" and supports. But all is not always linked to carreer/work.


It's something you have to build

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MC can represent carreer (with 6th and 2nd). But is a lot more than this.
You need to look at the moon to understand it, because you don't relate with Cancer MC, and it's not surprising.. your Moon is in Leo, it's not the same element and interests

10th house represent your social development in society, your status and reputation, It's the success or failure (or both) in public area. How you want to appear (or not) in public, in front of people that don't know you, or people you didn't met since a longtime for example

10th house can also represent a parent

This house shows goals, sometimes "destiny" and supports. But all is not always linked to carreer/work.


It's something you have to build
Thank you three! Itís not easy is it. Yes I have Leo moon in 11th so do I look at that?
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How do U see your mc? How does it play out?
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yes, it's not so easy..

I have moon in 10th house, and it's really not my favorite planet..

Look at Leo moon and the aspects
Because of this placement, I guess your 10th is about 11th things

for me it's the same
Leo Mc, ruled by Sun in 11th (virgo)

But difficult to understand.. Leo and Virgo are too differents.
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yes, it's not so easy..

I have moon in 10th house, and it's really not my favorite planet..

Look at Leo moon and the aspects
Because of this placement, I guess your 10th is about 11th things

for me it's the same
Leo Mc, ruled by Sun in 11th (virgo)

But difficult to understand.. Leo and Virgo are too differents.
Yes 11th house is a bit difficult to understand. Leo is the opposite of 11th too so itís like living in the opposite house to your own. My sun is in 4th cap so I thought working from home would suit me
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yes, it's not so easy..

I have moon in 10th house, and it's really not my favorite planet..

Look at Leo moon and the aspects
Because of this placement, I guess your 10th is about 11th things

for me it's the same
Leo Mc, ruled by Sun in 11th (virgo)

But difficult to understand.. Leo and Virgo are too differents.
Three, I think Leo mc is amazing to have! You shine brightly. I would love my Leo to be in 10th
Why donít you like it? I have Chiron opposing my north node 😬. Chiron in 8th
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I don't feel comfortable telling things about my MC.
My MC ruler is sun (conjuncting chiron, and opposing saturn)
My Sun ruler, mercury in 12 (mental house), is ruled by Venus that conjuncts Chiron.
And my 10th house Moon square pluto

So, most of my life is about fixing ego issues (Leo MC)
I think I would prefer to have another MC sign ._.

Moon in MC represent rise and falls. (loss or gains of reputation, status in the society, recognition, goals, destiny). It's nice to be seen as successful, but a lot harder to experiment public failure

11th house sun can mean "supports from some men (or a man)". 11th house Moon, "support from some women (or a woman)"

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I don't feel comfortable telling things about my MC.
My MC ruler is sun (conjuncting chiron, and opposing saturn)
My Sun ruler, mercury in 12 (mental house), is ruled by Venus that conjuncts Chiron.
And my 10th house Moon square pluto

So, most of my life is about fixing ego issues (Leo MC)
I think I would prefer to have another MC sign ._.

Moon in MC represent rise and falls. (loss or gains of reputation, status in the society, recognition, goals, destiny). It's nice to be seen as successful, but a lot harder to experiment public failure

11th house sun can mean "supports from some men (or a man)". 11th house Moon, "support from some women (or a woman)"
I understand you donít feel comfortable bless you x
We can chat about something else.
What do you like about your chart
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