Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influence

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

If local skies are clear of clouds
then
by visual observation at night
todays Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of AQUARIUS

i.e.
- that's todays SIDEREAL location of the Moon
AND
todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in SECOND DECAN SIDEREAL AQUARIUS domicile of SATURN
in applying opposition with SIDEREAL LEO VENUS MARS conjunction
in separating trine with SIDEREAL LIBRA JUPITER
in applying square with SIDEREAL SCORPIO SATURN

but


TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
is in FIRST DECAN TROPICAL PISCES domicile of JUPITER
in applying opposition with TROPICL VIRGO VENUS MARS conjunction
in applying square with TROPICAL SAGITTARIUS SATURN


ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha

MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are observing THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT



VISUAL ANIMATION CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI&feature=related

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen






If local skies are clear of clouds
then

by visual observation at night
todays Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of LEO


i.e.
- that's todays SIDEREAL location of the Moon
AND
todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in THIRD DECAN SIDEREAL LEO domicile of SUN
in separating sextile with SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY JUPITER conjunction
in applying square with SIDEREAL SCORPIO SATURN


IN CONTRAST


TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART
SHOWS: todays TROPICAL Moon
is in SECOND DECAN TROPICAL VIRGO domicile of MERCURY
in applying conjunction with TROPICL VIRGO MARS
in separating sextile with TROPICAL SCORPIO JUPITER
in applying square with TROPICAL SAGITTARIUS SATURN


MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are observing THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT


ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha




VISUAL ANIMATION CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI&feature=related

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen






If local skies are clear of clouds
then
by visual observation at night

todays Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of LIBRA
i.e.
- that's todays SIDEREAL location of the Moon
AND

todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in THIRD DECAN SIDEREAL LIBRA domicile of VENUS
in separating conjunction with SIDEREAL LIBRA SUN MERCURY JUPITER conjunction


but

TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
is in SECOND DECAN TROPICAL SCORPIO domicile of MARS
in separating conjunction with TROPICL SCORPIO JUPITER MERCURY conjunction
in applying sextile with TROPICAL VIRGO MARS


ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha





VISUAL ANIMATION CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI&feature=related



MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are observing THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

When local skies are clear of clouds
then


by visual observation at night
todays Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of CAPRICORN


i.e.
- that's todays SIDEREAL location of the Moon
AND
todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in THIRD DECAN SIDEREAL CAPRICORN domicile of SATURN
in applying square with SIDEREAL LIBRA MERCURY
in separating square with SIDEREAL LIBRA SUN JUPITER conjunction
in applying trine with SIDEREAL VIRGO VENUS
in separating trine with SIDEREAL VIRGO MARS


but in contrast


TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
is in SECOND DECAN TROPICAL AQUARIUS domicile of SATURN
in applying square with TROPICAL SCORPIO MERCURY
in separating square with TROPICL SCORPIO SUN JUPITER conjunction
in applying trine with TROPICAL LIBRA VENUS
in separating trine with TROPICAL LIBRA MARS



ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha

VISUAL ANIMATION CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI&feature=related




MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are observing THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

VISUAL ANIMATION CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI&feature=related

If local skies are clear of clouds
then
by visual observation at night

todays Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of LIBRA
i.e.
- that's todays SIDEREAL location of the Moon
AND
todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in SECOND DECAN SIDEREAL LIBRA domicile of MARS
in applying conjunction with SIDEREAL LIBRA VENUS JUPITER conjunction
in separating sextile with SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS SATURN

but in contrast
TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
is in FIRST DECAN TROPICAL SCORPIO domicile of MARS
in applying conjunction with TROPICAL SCORPIO SUN VENUS JUPITER conjunction


ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha


MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are observing THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
Sidereal VISUAL observation of local skies
differs from computer generated Tropical Chart
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen






If local skies are clear of clouds
then
by visual observation at night
todays Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of SAGITTARIUS
i.e.
- that's todays SIDEREAL location of the Moon
AND
todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in SECOND DECAN SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS domicile of JUPITER
in applying sextile with SIDEREAL LIBRA VENUS JUPITER conjunction
in applying square with SIDEREAL VIRGO MARS
in separating conjunction with SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS SATURN




but in contrast
TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
is in FIRST DECAN TROPICAL CAPRICORN domicile of SATURN
in applying sextile with TROPICAL SCORPIO SUN VENUS JUPITER conjunction
in applying square with TROPICAL LIBRA MARS




ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha



MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are observing THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
Sidereal VISUAL observation of local skies
differs from computer generated Tropical Chart
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT



VISUAL ANIMATION CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are observing THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
Sidereal VISUAL observation of local skies
differs from computer generated Tropical Chart
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
and so
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha




If local skies are clear of clouds
then
by visual observation at night

todays Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of TAURUS
i.e.
- that's todays SIDEREAL location of the Moon
AND
todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in SECOND DECAN SIDEREAL TAURUS domicile of VENUS
in separating opposition with SIDEREAL SCORPIO VENUS SUN conjunction


but in contrast
TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
is in SECOND DECAN TROPICAL GEMINI domicile of MERCURY
in separating opposition with TROPICAL SAGITTARIUS VENUS SUN conjunction
in applying opposition with TROPICAL SAGITTARIUS MERCURY SATURN conjunction
in applying trine with TROPICAL LIBRA MARS


VISUAL ANIMATION WITH VOICEOVER CLEARLY ILLUSTRATES
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

If local skies are clear of clouds
then
by visual observation at night

todays Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of TAURUS
i.e.
- that's todays SIDEREAL location of the Moon
AND
todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in SECOND DECAN SIDEREAL TAURUS domicile of VENUS
in applying opposition with SIDEREAL SCORPIO MERCURY

but in contrast
TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
in FIRST DECAN TROPICAL GEMINI domicile of MERCURY
in applying opposition with TROPICAL SAGITTARIUS MERCURY


ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha

VISUAL ANIMATION CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI


MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are observing THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
Sidereal VISUAL observation of local skies differs from computer generated Tropical Chart
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

If local skies are clear of clouds
then
by visual observation at night


todays Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of TAURUS
i.e.
- that's todays SIDEREAL location of the Moon
AND
todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in THIRD DECAN SIDEREAL TAURUS domicile of VENUS
in separating opposition with SIDEREAL SCORPIO MERCURY

but in contrast
TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
is in LAST DECAN TROPICAL GEMINI domicile of MERCURY
in separating opposition with TROPICAL SAGITTARIUS MERCURY


ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha


VISUAL ANIMATION WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI



MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are observing THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
Sidereal VISUAL observation of local skies
differs from computer generated Tropical Chart
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen






If local skies are clear of clouds
then
by visual observation at night


todays Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of GEMINI
i.e.
- that's todays SIDEREAL location of the Moon
AND
todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in SECOND DECAN SIDEREAL GEMINI domicile of MERCURY

in applying opposition with SIDEREAL GEMINI SUN VENUS conjunction
in separating opposition with SIDEREAL SAGfTTARIUS SATURN
in applying trine with SIDEREAL LIBRA MARS JUPITER conjunction

but in contrast
TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
is in FIRST DECAN TROPICAL CANCER own domicile
in applying opposition with TROPICAL CAPRICORN SUN MERCURY conjunction
in separating opposition with TROPICAL CAPRICORN SATURN
in applying trine with TROPICAL SCORPIO MARS JUPITER conjunction


VISUAL ANIMATION CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI


MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are observing THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies

computer generated Tropical Chart differs from Sidereal VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT

ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen






VISUAL ANIMATION CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
If local skies are clear of clouds
then
by visual observation at night


todays Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of VIRGO
i.e.
- that's todays visible SIDEREAL location of the Moon as visibly observed in local skies
AND
todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in THIRD DECAN SIDEREAL VIRGO domicile of MERCURY
in applying square with SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS SUN VENUS conjunction
in separating square with SIDEREAL SAGfTTARIUS MERCURY SATURN conjunction


but in contrast
TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
is in SECOND DECAN TROPICAL LIBRA domicile of VENUS
in applying square with TROPICAL CAPRICORN SUN VENUS conjunction
in separating square with TROPICAL CAPRICORN SATURN
in applying sextile with TROPICAL SAGITTARIUS MERCURY


MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies

computer generated Tropical Chart differs from Sidereal VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT

ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

I didn't remember this thread. Or the Jyotishness here.

My own natal chart has this oddity in it. Moon moves from sun ruled to moon ruled depending on whose looking. Great thread mon ami.

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

Blaze said:

I didn't remember this thread. Or the Jyotishness here.

My own natal chart has this oddity in it.
Moon moves from sun ruled to moon ruled
depending on whose looking.

Great thread mon ami.

Click to expand...

It's useful to exercise these perspectives daily

'.....Light is the primary medium for communication of the stars.

Light is the object of sight and sight is our primary sense.
The stars emanate their essence outward into Light and let us know them thereby.
The more shiny a star, the stronger.
The steadier its light, the steadier its nature.
When it shines on Earth for the most part of the night
(un-annihilated by the solar light)
then the peak of its influence.
When the star cannot be seen, then the trough of its influence.....'

The picture of the celestial firmament
directly observed by the unaided eyes of the astrologer
is the essence of Babylonian Astrology.
No ephemeris, no books, no computer program is Babylonian Astrology. Each and every point on the sky
with its luminosity and color
is an integral part of the picture.
And what we see on the firmament with our own eyes only
is what is important.
Some Reflections about Babylonian Astrology


06-11-2013, 09:44 PM
BobZemco
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Re: The 8 sign zodiac - looking for info about it
Quote:
Originally Posted by miquar
Hi everyone. I'm still in the process of writing my book, so haven't had time to come on the forum much this year. I'm trying to find out something about the 8-sign zodiac which was used at some point in the past - perhaps in Egypt, I'm not sure. I'm mostly interested in getting a brief description of what each of the 8 signs in that system was thought to represent.

Beware strange web-sites foisting bizarre theories on the unsuspecting.

This is just a misunderstanding by people who couldn't figure out the doctrine brought to us by an Eastern Greek....as opposed to the stupid Western Greeks. Eastern Greeks -- we're talking Lydians and Phrygians here...lived in Central Anatolia....yeah, modern Turkey.

Eastern Greeks were a conduit for information from Mesopotamia via the Sumerians. The Eastern Greeks passed on knowledge in math, science, astronomy and astrology first from the Amorites (mistakenly referred to as "Babylonians") and later from the Babylonians (mistakenly referred to as "Chaldeans") to the nucleus of what would later become "Western Civilization".....

This Eastern Greek -- Nechepso was his name -- espoused a doctrine of 8 power regions in the Chart, and you know them as Angular and Succeedent Houses/Signs.

That, is the source of the 8-Sign Zodiac Nonsense, in spite of the fact that Nechepso never said there were 8-Signs, rather he said there were 8 regions of power in the Chart.

Keywords are "Willing" (Angular), "Hoping" (Succeedent) and "Receding" (Cadent).

This doctrine impacts Natal, Mundane, Revolution, Horary and Electional Astrology.

A Planet will do whatever it will do....good or bad....if in one of the 8 power regions. Naturally, a Planet's condition will affect its ability to do whatever it will do.

This doctrine caused some confusion, leading some of the later astrologers, mostly Hellenistic --- like Dorotheus, but even Zael used it, to adopt the 7-Sign/House System of power, which was the 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th, 10th and 12th Houses/Signs.

Surely you can see the confusion --- the MC can fall in the 9th, 10th or 11th House/Sign, and so how can you have a king with a 9th House MC or MC Ruler in the 9th?

And what about the 2nd House of Wealth?

That leads to weird things like the 15° Rule )Ptolemy) where a Planet within 15° of the Ascendant (or MC) is considered to be in the Asc/MC.

That's what happens when subtle (and not so subtle) nuances get lost with the transmission of knowledge over time. I don't think Nechepso & Co or Ptolemy & Co are necessarily wrong....in fact, I'm not even sure they were talking about the same thing, and there's every indication that the Asc/MC were treated separate and apart from the House/Signs.

Even so, they all still pretty much say the same thing, that there's a distinction between looking at the Chart as a whole, and looking at Topics.

Suppose the Chart Ruler is in the 7th House....that's Angular, and (assuming it is otherwise in good condition) you could conclude that nearly all of what the Chart promises will be fulfilled --- it's just a matter of determining when (use Profections and Revolutions).

Now suppose the Chart Ruler is also the Wealth Ruler.....would you draw the same conclusion?

No....it's Angular in the Chart, but not to the Topic of Wealth....the 7th House would be Cadent to the 2nd House/Sign, and in fact the Topic Ruler can't even "see" the House/Sign it rules, and so it is powerless to do anything, regardless of its condition.

You can also view it as Public (Angular), semi-Private/semi-Public (Succeedent) and Private (Cadent).

Are all powerful men and women in the spotlight? On stage? In the news?

No....well, then you might want to look and see where the Topic Ruler (in the this instance the MC Ruler) is located. Same for those who have wealth...of any kind...how many times have you seen the modest person....only to discover much later that they have a rather fair amount of wealth (to a lot of wealth)?

You can also view look at those power regions in terms of "longevity." Some people retain their wealth and/or health their whole lives, while others see their health/wealth fade with age....or lose their friends....don't age gracefully....have fewer enemies....fewer employees...their power fades....their zeal for things religious, ideological, educational or philosophical wanes.

You're looking at something Cadent in the Chart; if not the Topic Ruler, then the Lot; or a Succeedent Topic Ruler/Cadent Lot; a Cadent Lot Ruler; an Angular Ruler but in poor condition with the Lot or Lot Ruler Cadent....it's there.

Anyway, if you want to research astrology, especially ancient astrology, then I would suggest the proper venue is a library -- like a university library, and not the internet

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Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

If local skies are clear of clouds
then
by visual observation at night


todays Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of PISCES
i.e.
- that's todays visible SIDEREAL location of the Moon as visibly observed in local skies worldwide


AND
todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in SECOND DECAN SIDEREAL PISCES domicile of JUPITER
in applying sextile with SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SUN VENUS conjunction
in separating square with SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS MERCURY
in separating trine with SIDEREAL SCORPIO MARS
in applying square with SIDEREAL SAGfTTARIUS SATURN


but in contrast
TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
is in FIRST DECAN TROPICAL ARIES domicile of MARS
in separating sextile with TROPICAL AQUARIUS SUN VENUS conjunction
in separating square with TROPICAL CAPRICORN SATURN
in applying square with TROPICAL CAPRICORN MERCURY


MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies

computer generated Tropical Chart differs from Sidereal VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT

ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha

VISUAL ANIMATION CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen






If local skies are clear of clouds
then
by visual observation at night


todays Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of LIBRA
i.e.
- that's todays visible SIDEREAL location of the Moon as visibly observed in local skies worldwide


AND
todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in FIRST DECAN SIDEREAL LIBRA domicile of VENUS
in applying square with SIDEREAL CAPRICORN SUN MERCURY VENUS conjunction
in applying conjunction with SIDEREAL LIBRA JUPITER
in applying sextile with SIDEREAL SAGfTTARIUS SATURN


AND FOR A CHANGE
TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
is in THIRD DECAN TROPICAL LIBRA domicile of VENUS
in separating sextile with TROPICAL SAGITTARIUS MARS
in separating square with TROPICAL CAPRICORN SATURN
in separating trine with TROPICAQUARIUS MERCURY SUN VENUS conjunction



AND SO

FOR ANOTHER APPROXIMATELY SIX HOURS ONLY

both Sidereal and Tropical measurement finds transiting Moon is in LIBRA
but not for long
because
sidereally Moon is in very EARLY degree of LIBRA – having just ingressed
whereas Tropical Moon is in LATE degree of LIBRA


MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs from Sidereal VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT

ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha



VISUAL ANIMATION CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen





todays Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of SAGITTARIUS
i.e.
- that's todays visible SIDEREAL location of the Moon as visibly observed in local skies worldwide


AND
todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in SECOND DECAN SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS domicile of JUPITER
in applying sextile with SIDEREAL LIBRA JUPITER
in separating sextile with SIDEREAL AQUARIUS VENUS
in applying conjunction with SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS SATURN


but
in
contrast
TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
is in FIRST DECAN TROPICAL CAPRICORN domicile of SATURN
in separating sextile with TROPICAL PISCES VENUS
in applying sextile with TROPICAL SCORPIO JUPITER
in separating conjunction with TROPICAL CAPRICORN SATURN



MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies

computer generated Tropical Chart differs from Sidereal VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT

ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha







VISUAL ANIMATION CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
If local skies are clear of clouds
then
by visual observation at night

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

todays Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of AQUARIUS
i.e.
- that's todays visible SIDEREAL location of the Moon as visibly observed in local skies worldwide
AND
todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in FIRST DECAN SIDEREAL AQUARIUS domicile of SATURN
in partile conjunction with SIDEREAL AQUARIUS SUN
in separating conjunction with SIDEREAL AQUARIUS MERCURY
in applying conjunction with SIDEREAL AQUARIUS VENUS
in applying square with SIDEREAL SCORPIO MARS
in applying trine with SIDEREAL LIBRA JUPITER
in applying sextile with SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS SATURN


AND ALSO
TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
is in THIRD DECAN TROPICAL AQUARIUS domicile of SATURN
in separating conjunction with TROPICAL AQUARIUS MERCURY SUN conjunction
in separating sextile with TROPICAL SAGITTARIUS MARS
in separating square with TROPICAL SCORPIO JUPITER


AND SO FOR ANOTHER APPROXIMATELY FOUR HOURS ONLY
both Sidereal and Tropical measurement
finds transiting Moon is in AQUARIUS
but not for long
because
sidereally Moon is in very EARLY degree of AQUARIUS – having recently ingressed
whereas Tropical Moon is in LATE degree of AQUARIUS


MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs from Sidereal VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha



VISUAL ANIMATION CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI
If local skies are clear of clouds
then
by visual observation at night

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen

Today Moon is in the CONSTELLATION of GEMINI
i.e.
- that's todays visible SIDEREAL location of the Moon as visibly observed in local skies worldwide
AND
todays SIDEREAL Moon
is in SECOND DECAN SIDEREALGEMINI domicile of MERCURY
in applying trine with SIDEREAL SUN MERCURY VENUS conjunction
in opposition with SIDEREAL SAGITTARIUS SATURN


but
in
contrast
TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
is in FIRST DECAN TROPICAL CANCER own domicile
in applying trine with TROPICAL PISCES MERCURY SUN VENUS conjunction
in applying trine with TROPICAL SCORPIO JUPITER
in partile opposition with TROPICAL CAPRICORN SATURN



VISUAL ANIMATION CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING
TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI


If local skies are clear of clouds
then
by visual observation at night
MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs from Sidereal VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT

ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha

Re: Todays Moon - Its Tropical & Its Sidereal Location & Effect On Sign Ruler Influen







VISUAL ANIMATION OF TROPICAL & SIDEREAL PERSPECTIVE
WITH DESCRIPTIVE NARRATIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82p-DYgGFjI




MOON visits each SIGN once a month aka "moonth"
and
IS NOT ALWAYS IN SAME SIGN BOTH TROPICALLY AND SIDEREALLY
because
although Astrologers
– whether Tropical or Sidereal
– are commenting on and making predictions regarding THE IDENTICAL MOON in the skies
computer generated Tropical Chart differs by DEGREE OCCUPIED BY THE MOON
from Sidereal DEGREE OCCUPIED BY MOON
Sidereal location of Moon may be confirmed BY VISUAL observation of local skies
there is a minimum difference of 20° up to a maximum of approximately 24°
between TROPICAL AND SIDEREAL MEASUREMENT
ANY planet at 0° OF any TROPICAL SIGN
is SIDEREALLY between approximately 6° - 10° to a maximum 24° of the PREVIOUS SIGN
dependent on the ayanamsha

Assuming local skies are clear of clouds
then
by visual observation at night
Todays SIDEREAL Moon as visibly observed in local skies worldwide
has ingressed CONSTELLATION of CANCER
and is in FIRST DECAN SIDEREAL CANCER and own domicile
in applying trine with SIDEREAL SCORPIO MARS
in separating trine with SIDEREAL SCORPIO JUPITER

AND SO FOR ANOTHER APPROXIMATELY TEN HOURS ONLY
both Sidereal and Tropical measurement
finds transiting Moon is in CANCER
but not for long
because
Sidereally and by visual observation Moon is in very EARLY degree of CANCER
– having recently ingressed
whereas Tropical Moon is in LATE degree of CANCER

TODAYS COMPUTER GENERATED TROPICAL CHART SHOWS:
todays TROPICAL Moon
is in THIRD DECAN TROPICAL CANCER own domicile
in separating trine with TROPICAL PISCES MERCURY SUN VENUS conjunction
in separating trine with TROPICAL SCORPIO JUPITER
in separating opposition with TROPICAL CAPRICORN SATURN