Autism & Asperger's in natal chart

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Ethergypsy

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The second chart, data given by Serena, 28th December 1994, 4.05am, Carpi, Italy.

The Moon is 6.5 degrees Scorpio, in the twelfth house. It is exactly opposite the antiscion of Isis/Transpluto (Please, if anybody wants explanation of this after googling it, I would be happy to go into detail, but if you want to put it in your chart it is h48 on Astrodienst's extended chart selection, and there is an ephemeris available online, as well as the wonderful work of Lyn Koiner. I am more than delighted to discuss with anybody who cares enough to google it). Isis/Transpluto in this chart is 24 degrees Leo, hence its antiscion is 6 degrees Taurus.

Transpluto embodies duality in itself and is damaging. When aspecting the Sun or Moon it seems to operate in a similar way to both Uranus and Chiron forming a hard aspect to the Sun or Moon.
 
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I have Apergers... firstly it is not caused by vaccines.. but a variety of genetic factors one of which is though to effect the proteins which may effect neural pathways.. im not sure how this relates to natal but heres my chart..
 

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scorpileo said:
I have Apergers... firstly it is not caused by vaccines.. but a variety of genetic factors one of which is though to effect the proteins which may effect neural pathways.. im not sure how this relates to natal but heres my chart..
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I looked up your Isis/Transpluto on Astrodienst by entering h48 into the Extended Chart section.

It is 22 degrees Leo 54 minutes.

It forms a complex of aspects in your chart. Your Sun's antiscion in particular is 23 degrees Aquarius 56 minutes.

I love your tagline, but feel that I never ever existed.
 
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AspieTaurus

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I have Asperger's and the striking things on my chart are the Mars-Moon-Neptune conjunction in Capricorn opposite Lilith and trine Sun, Pluto in Scorpio conjunct AC, Sun opposite Pluto, Saturn opposite Venus, Mercury in Aries square Mars in Capricorn, and 2 Grand Trines with Saturn-Venus-MC and Uranus-Venus-MC.

My chart is linked in my signature.
 
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Arian Maverick said:
Wow, this is such fascinating insight...unfortunately, my brother has virtually no verbal communication ability except for his repitition of individual words and phrases, and thus he would be unable to understand or verify any of it. However, he has a great sense of humor and was fiercely protective of me as a child...*reminices fondly*

I was surprised to find this topic on the forums, since I had been thinking of starting a similar one myself not too long ago. Hopefully, I'll be able to find some solace in the stars and in my belief that he chose his particular life path...it is almost unbearable for me to think of him as a victim of that fateful vaccination, after which I am told he never fully recovered.

Are there any indicators in his chart that may refer to this event? Mercury, perhaps, which shares the namesake of that poisonous toxin found in his childhoood vaccine? Perhaps I am being too simple-minded, but that substance had to gets its name from somewhere :p

Maverick
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Vaccines have nothing to do with Autism, that nonsense was proved to have been based on fraudulent research. It is genetic and runs in families. I have a severely autistic aunt and my mom's dad quite likely had Asperger's.
 
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AspieTaurus said:
I have Asperger's and the striking things on my chart are the Mars-Moon-Neptune conjunction in Capricorn opposite Lilith and trine Sun, Pluto in Scorpio conjunct AC, Sun opposite Pluto, Saturn opposite Venus, Mercury in Aries square Mars in Capricorn, and 2 Grand Trines with Saturn-Venus-MC and Uranus-Venus-MC.

My chart is linked in my signature.
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fwiw, your natal Isis/Transpluto is 19 degrees Leo 39 minutes. The antiscion of that is 10 degrees Taurus 21 minutes.

I have no idea how to interpret that, just thought you might find it of some use. Your guess is as good as mine, I just look at things and try to understand them.
 
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AspieTaurus

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Nicolas said:
I was unaware that vaccines cause Autism. Thanks for this valid information. I’ve gone through the article you had linked and found it very helpful.
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Please don't believe any of that nonsense. This MMR hysteria is based on fraudulent research. It has been debunked again and again. Several autistic kids have died as a result of "Chelation Therapy" from mislead, gullible parents trying to "get the mercury out". Autism is a purely genetic neurological condition, though certain environmental things can make individual aspects of Autism Spectrum Disorders worse or better.

Autistic people need to be accepted we are, not subjected to quack "cures" based on hysteria.
 
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AspieTaurus

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Re: Please get back to talking about autism in the chart

suimui10 said:
huh? 44 is "pretty old"? Could that be a typo? LOL
As for smoking "getting to him somehow", I hope you don't imply that there's a link between smoking and schizophrenia?
I'm not a smoker, but I know plenty of life-long smokers who are not schizophrenics! Smoking is an addiction, yes, and it causes a lot of damage on someone's body, but it has nothing to do with schizophrenia. Please read up on schizophrenia; it's not something you get from "a lot of smoking". If that were the case, the world would be lucky as giving up smoking would be the obvious cure to serious conditions such as schizophrenia...
Maybe I'm mis-reading you. I hope I do...

cheers,
Sui :)
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Not to rudely butt in (a Taurus, "butt in", NEVER!!! :innocent: ), but people with psychotic disorders tend to smoke and use drugs much more often then the rest of the population because they are self-medicating. I know a lady with Schizoaffective disorder and she took heroin for a long time because, according to her, it "helped her ignore the voices". it's not that drugs cause Schizophrenia, it's the exact other way.
 
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AspieTaurus

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Ethergypsy said:
fwiw, your natal Isis/Transpluto is 19 degrees Leo 39 minutes. The antiscion of that is 10 degrees Taurus 21 minutes.

I have no idea how to interpret that, just thought you might find it of some use. Your guess is as good as mine, I just look at things and try to understand them.
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LOL, I'm still working on the basics, I would not know a darn thing about obscure aspects like that!!! :biggrin::tongue::unsure::cool:
 
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AspieTaurus

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lacellrein said:
it really is a ridiculous claim. was watching it the other day in the news and the doctor even falsified his data.
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Wakefield should be in jail for his fraud, he really is a disgusting person who mislead thousands of parents.

Back to the topic at hand, I have noticed that my Sun is in perfect conjunction with Sedna. Now, Sedna seems to have connotations with horrible and awful experiences in one's life. I wonder if there is a connection where with neuro-psychiatric conditions and learning disabilities.
 
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dr. farr said:
AspieTaurus said:
Homeopathy is nonsense, what they believe is no more relavent to reality anymore than the claims of snake-oil salesmen are relevant.

I consider this to be a PERSONAL attacking and inflammatory post.

Richard L. Farr
Doctor of Medical Science in Homeopathy
American University of Complementary Medicine, Beverly Hills, CA

Homeopathic medical practitioner (Southern California) since 1982.
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I deleted the offending post, my apologies.

Darn, Mercury square Mars, why do I always shoot my mouth off? :unsure:
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Thanks for your kindness and consideration. Its easy to shoot out hard comments in some of our discussions, even though we don't mean to offend anyone: if I ever quote you in a posting and make comments which you find offensive please let me know and I shall immediately delete that post-no questions asked!
 
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AspieTaurus

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dr. farr said:
Thanks for your kindness and consideration. Its easy to shoot out hard comments in some of our discussions, even though we don't mean to offend anyone: if I ever quote you in a posting and make comments which you find offensive please let me know and I shall immediately delete that post-no questions asked!
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Thanks! :cool::innocent:
 
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Little_God

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I have Asperger's Syndrome.

It's interesting that you said you'd heard Pluto can be associated with it. I have a Sun-Mercury-Pluto conjunction.

Myself, I would have thought Saturn would be associated with it, because it means you have to work extra hard at everything. Also, Asperger's Syndrome is a very lonely, isolating condition - classic features of Saturn. I have Saturn in the 11th house - a classic symptom of Asperger's Syndrome is difficulty socialising and making friends.

In addition to Saturn, I would also associate Chiron with the condition. It could be seen as a "wounding" and something that can never properly be cured - you have to try to accept it and recognise the things you will never be able to do. I have Chiron in the 7th house opposite my 1st house Mars.

I've heard that a difficult 5th harmonic chart can be associated with Autism and Asperger's Syndrome. I have at least a couple of difficult aspects in the 5th harmonic.
 
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aspergers_mom

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I was married to a man who had asperger's syndrome and i have a child who has aspergers too. According to me, below is a 100% sure astrological combination in asperger's patient:

Two planets aspect moon in such a way that, one of them opposes moon, while the other is either sextile or in trine with moon.

Aspecting planets could be any including Uranus, Neptune, Pluto. When Mars or Venus is involved, it shows poor social skills.

Hope this helps anyone out there wondering about Asperger's and astrological link.

-Mom of an Asperger child.
 
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AspieTaurus

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I goofed on my TOB (again), my corrected chart is now in my signature. Dad thought I was born at 10PM, but my BC says 6:45PM and my mom insists I was born while Wheel of Fortune was on, which was between 6:30 and 7:00. My dad said he went out to the bar to celebrate so no wonder he could not remember the time... :sideways:

Little_God said:
I have Asperger's Syndrome.

It's interesting that you said you'd heard Pluto can be associated with it. I have a Sun-Mercury-Pluto conjunction.

Myself, I would have thought Saturn would be associated with it, because it means you have to work extra hard at everything. Also, Asperger's Syndrome is a very lonely, isolating condition - classic features of Saturn. I have Saturn in the 11th house - a classic symptom of Asperger's Syndrome is difficulty socialising and making friends.

In addition to Saturn, I would also associate Chiron with the condition. It could be seen as a "wounding" and something that can never properly be cured - you have to try to accept it and recognise the things you will never be able to do. I have Chiron in the 7th house opposite my 1st house Mars.

I've heard that a difficult 5th harmonic chart can be associated with Autism and Asperger's Syndrome. I have at least a couple of difficult aspects in the 5th harmonic.
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I have retrograde Saturn in Sag opposite both Venus and Chiron in Gemini. I have read that Chiron in Gemini indicates a "wound" dealing with communication. I have a severe stutter and often have trouble vocalizing my thoughts.
 
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I was diagnosed with Aspergers when i was a child. I've always tried not to associate myself with it because its considered a "disability", but to me, i feel that it's a gift, a very misunderstood gift. I feel like i have a Very hightened awareness, a hypersensitive nervous system, just surreal-like perception. Life goes very easy for me, i have a karma like way of dealing with things, because i think by being positive, positive things will manifest in my life, and it works ;). I have a good job with good income, a great social life, and i have a good sense of direction in my life, because i've realized what my dream is, and that every step i make is a step closer to reaching that dream, and that meeting people is almost destiny like. I have alot of strength for my size, im 6'4" 150 lbs. and used to squat 300 lbs, and can go out and run 10k no problem. I feel like the only problem in my life is that i easily lose myself in my surroundings.. it's like i lose my identity and get enveloped in the external world, and can have overwhelming feelings of things i can't usually put into a description, because its so deep and intense. Most of the time i have a strong mental buzz feeling, which makes it hard to sleep because its like my mind is on overdrive, all i do is think think think. Probably the most wierd experience to live with for me is how lucid my dreams are, while awake i can vividly remember and "feel" my dreams... i've had alot of brutal deaths in my dreams which disturbs me, but i think symbolize the death and rebirth of something inside me to be a better person, that a change was needed. This is just the tip of the iceberg of what crazy things i experience. Alot of the times i think "wait, im just human". lol.

I think my chart may be a bit odd or intense.
heres my chart
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AspieTaurus

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cooms said:
I was diagnosed with Aspergers when i was a child. I've always tried not to associate myself with it because its considered a "disability", but to me, i feel that it's a gift, a very misunderstood gift. I feel like i have a Very hightened awareness, a hypersensitive nervous system, just surreal-like perception. Life goes very easy for me, i have a karma like way of dealing with things, because i think by being positive, positive things will manifest in my life, and it works ;). I have a good job with good income, a great social life, and i have a good sense of direction in my life, because i've realized what my dream is, and that every step i make is a step closer to reaching that dream, and that meeting people is almost destiny like. I have alot of strength for my size, im 6'4" 150 lbs. and used to squat 300 lbs, and can go out and run 10k no problem. I feel like the only problem in my life is that i easily lose myself in my surroundings.. it's like i lose my identity and get enveloped in the external world, and can have overwhelming feelings of things i can't usually put into a description, because its so deep and intense. Most of the time i have a strong mental buzz feeling, which makes it hard to sleep because its like my mind is on overdrive, all i do is think think think. Probably the most wierd experience to live with for me is how lucid my dreams are, while awake i can vividly remember and "feel" my dreams... i've had alot of brutal deaths in my dreams which disturbs me, but i think symbolize the death and rebirth of something inside me to be a better person, that a change was needed. This is just the tip of the iceberg of what crazy things i experience. Alot of the times i think "wait, im just human". lol.

I think my chart may be a bit odd or intense.
heres my chart
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We aren't disabled, we're just different. :smile: It's how society treats us that makes us "disabled" relative to "normal" people. I'm very hypersensitive, too, though I wish I had the strength you have, I could lose some of my belly!

That feel of losing yourself is almost certainly from Chiron on your Descendant in Cancer opposing that enormous stellium in Capricorn.

You also have a Water-Earth mystic rectangle.

We alos both have hard Sun-Pluto aspects, though mine is an opposition.
 
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