Suggestions for this relationship.
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Blackempress
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Thanks for the notice Rahu.
Blackempress
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Synastry & composite added. Thanks!
Actually, in the interest of brevity, I'm going to eliminate a lot of what ought to be done before looking at the synastry and just hit a very small number of the big bells.
Both of you bring things of your personality to the table, and a full analysis of that is really necessary.
But since a new relationship is one of change, lets look at a few of the many indicators of how both of you deal with change, and thus since change is the essence of how your lives will evolve together, this is important.
HIM:
1. His Moon is in the 12th house, so all the big changes for him will revolve around the 12th house(which incidentally is a powerful house, and at the same time low friction.
We remind ourselves that the 12th house involves:
THE PAST, YESTERDAY, ENFORCED SERVITUDE, CONFINEMENT, SECRET ENEMIES, INFORMERS, WIDOWS, GRIEF, FUNERALS, DETENTION, MISTAKES, ERRORS IN JUDGEMENT, BURDENS, HOSPITALS, ORPHANAGES, JAIL
2. His Cancer is in the 8th so these will tend to be the issues that will drive changes. The 8th house is also powerful though =no so much as the 12th, and is more neutral in friction:
WILLS, MONEY LEGACIES, MONEY BY MARRIAGE, ALIMONY, SETTLEMENTS OF MONEY, GIFTS, FEES, TIPS, TAXES, DEBTS, LOSSES, BANKRUPTCY, INJURY, SURGERY(and surgeons), endings
3. He has a crescent moon stage:
He will tend to look at values of the past and family before making changes into the future. He can experience roadblocks to change if family values were too rigid as a child. Dealing with changes always seems to have some kind of “what would my family think?” component, whether the family is even there anymore is irrelevant.
4. His Mars was the last planet that Moon conjuncted before his birth:
This means that before changes happen he experiences a period of restlessness followed by impulse reactions and taking chances as a solution. He will then tend to justify any action on the basis of how good it was for him, not others. Unilateral action is his mainstay. Shooting from the hip is his choice.
5. He has a high latitude Moon:
He will tend to not only demand to get his own way, but just plain expects it get it. Projects tend to take on the sorcerer apprentice feeling and get out of hand very easily, making him often wonder how he got into bad straights.
And projects keep going even when he wants them to stop—both personal and professional.
YOU:
1. Your Moon is in the 7th, so most of your big changes tend to come around issues of the 7th house. His 12 house stuff has little interest for you since your 12th house has the least power in your chart, and in addition while you don't have any concerns about 12th house stuff, talking about it sometimes make you uncomfortable.
Your 7th house is the most powerful house in your chart, but unfortunately is also the highest friction. So when you talk about partnerships and the stuff of the 7th house, work with it it causes stress with you and also with others.
Your 7th house issue also don't make much difference to him, but at least he really doesn't care one way or another about them. Since partnerships are part of the 7th house, you may be way way more interested in a partnership with him than he is with you.
The 7th house represents:
MARRIAGE, PARTNERSHIPS, DIVORCE, CONTRACTS, LAWSUITS, OPEN ANGER TO OTHERS, REMOVALS, SEPARATIONS, DOCTORS IN GENERAL
(why are we not surprised at the last item, huh?)
2. Your Cancer Cusp is in the 5th so the issues that drive you are there:
CREATIVITY, CHILDREN, PREGNANCY, LOVE AFFAIRS, ENTERTAINMENT, SPECULATION, GAMBLING, COMMUNITY PROPERTY
Your fifth house is very low in power, but not frictionful, so when driven to using these energies, you have to do it a lot to get any action. He cares even less about 5th house issues than he did for the 7th house ones.
3. You also have a crescent moon so check on that above
4. Your last planet Moon conjuncted before your birth was Mercury:
You have so much mental agility here that the you may become too much into having changes, even just for fun. Thus, you may get too cocky about your ability to deal with changes and thus make leaping errors. But then, before the change itself, Mercury is checking everything out, writing and talking to everyone about it, so you may not. Anyways, decisions are always open to change and revision.
When he shoot from the hip on his change he's not about to go to and do it again.
5. You also have a high latitude Moon. In fact, yours is higher even than his. There is surely to be a battle of wills when a change is happening since both of you expect the other to do it your way, and both of you believe that your way is the right way.
Next Step... an actual look at the synastry: what sets you off about him and what sets him off about you.
(You will need to respond before I decide to go to the next step)
Both of you bring things of your personality to the table, and a full analysis of that is really necessary.
But since a new relationship is one of change, lets look at a few of the many indicators of how both of you deal with change, and thus since change is the essence of how your lives will evolve together, this is important.
HIM:
1. His Moon is in the 12th house, so all the big changes for him will revolve around the 12th house(which incidentally is a powerful house, and at the same time low friction.
We remind ourselves that the 12th house involves:
THE PAST, YESTERDAY, ENFORCED SERVITUDE, CONFINEMENT, SECRET ENEMIES, INFORMERS, WIDOWS, GRIEF, FUNERALS, DETENTION, MISTAKES, ERRORS IN JUDGEMENT, BURDENS, HOSPITALS, ORPHANAGES, JAIL
2. His Cancer is in the 8th so these will tend to be the issues that will drive changes. The 8th house is also powerful though =no so much as the 12th, and is more neutral in friction:
WILLS, MONEY LEGACIES, MONEY BY MARRIAGE, ALIMONY, SETTLEMENTS OF MONEY, GIFTS, FEES, TIPS, TAXES, DEBTS, LOSSES, BANKRUPTCY, INJURY, SURGERY(and surgeons), endings
3. He has a crescent moon stage:
He will tend to look at values of the past and family before making changes into the future. He can experience roadblocks to change if family values were too rigid as a child. Dealing with changes always seems to have some kind of “what would my family think?” component, whether the family is even there anymore is irrelevant.
4. His Mars was the last planet that Moon conjuncted before his birth:
This means that before changes happen he experiences a period of restlessness followed by impulse reactions and taking chances as a solution. He will then tend to justify any action on the basis of how good it was for him, not others. Unilateral action is his mainstay. Shooting from the hip is his choice.
5. He has a high latitude Moon:
He will tend to not only demand to get his own way, but just plain expects it get it. Projects tend to take on the sorcerer apprentice feeling and get out of hand very easily, making him often wonder how he got into bad straights.
And projects keep going even when he wants them to stop—both personal and professional.
YOU:
1. Your Moon is in the 7th, so most of your big changes tend to come around issues of the 7th house. His 12 house stuff has little interest for you since your 12th house has the least power in your chart, and in addition while you don't have any concerns about 12th house stuff, talking about it sometimes make you uncomfortable.
Your 7th house is the most powerful house in your chart, but unfortunately is also the highest friction. So when you talk about partnerships and the stuff of the 7th house, work with it it causes stress with you and also with others.
Your 7th house issue also don't make much difference to him, but at least he really doesn't care one way or another about them. Since partnerships are part of the 7th house, you may be way way more interested in a partnership with him than he is with you.
The 7th house represents:
MARRIAGE, PARTNERSHIPS, DIVORCE, CONTRACTS, LAWSUITS, OPEN ANGER TO OTHERS, REMOVALS, SEPARATIONS, DOCTORS IN GENERAL
(why are we not surprised at the last item, huh?)
2. Your Cancer Cusp is in the 5th so the issues that drive you are there:
CREATIVITY, CHILDREN, PREGNANCY, LOVE AFFAIRS, ENTERTAINMENT, SPECULATION, GAMBLING, COMMUNITY PROPERTY
Your fifth house is very low in power, but not frictionful, so when driven to using these energies, you have to do it a lot to get any action. He cares even less about 5th house issues than he did for the 7th house ones.
3. You also have a crescent moon so check on that above
4. Your last planet Moon conjuncted before your birth was Mercury:
You have so much mental agility here that the you may become too much into having changes, even just for fun. Thus, you may get too cocky about your ability to deal with changes and thus make leaping errors. But then, before the change itself, Mercury is checking everything out, writing and talking to everyone about it, so you may not. Anyways, decisions are always open to change and revision.
When he shoot from the hip on his change he's not about to go to and do it again.
5. You also have a high latitude Moon. In fact, yours is higher even than his. There is surely to be a battle of wills when a change is happening since both of you expect the other to do it your way, and both of you believe that your way is the right way.
Next Step... an actual look at the synastry: what sets you off about him and what sets him off about you.
(You will need to respond before I decide to go to the next step)
Blackempress
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A very interesting look at personalities. Something far from expectations.
Hi blackempress
Thesquareof venus and Uranus is an aspect of immediate and intense attraction. This is a aspect of strong psychic energy also. Here the astral abilities can manifest with common dreams, altered realities accompanying sex and a feeling of electricity when together. The attraction is also unbearable but this aspect is also very unstable because the exhilaration when you are together cannot sustain itself. this gives a very high high but on routine matters of a normal relationship boredom or lack of interest can end the relationship . this aspect is usually associated with affairs of the heart but rarely does commitment grows from the heat. This aspect shows the emotional freedom is very important and often this aspect survives only as an open relationship or an off and on relationship.
But this composite also has emotional aspects associated with stable relationships and the love of the mars/venus midpoint conjunct the sun/mercury conjunction shows real affection and joy being with each other .this give openness of feelings and the revelation on deep ideas.
Venus is sextile to pluto and trine to Neptune so there is a sincere supportive and caring feeling between you. this aspect can give emotional strength to overcome the emotional baggage of past relationships.
The sun/moon midpoint is conjunct to Saturn and thereby Jupiter. This shows a real honest and devotion. It bode well for commitment as once enjoined this aspect gives fidelity.
Hmmm the moon/Saturn and moon Jupiter midpoints are conjunct to Pluto. This weakens the possibility of a committed relationship as Pluto unconscious focus usually manifests as distance in a relationship. this aspect shows you should never push for greater intimacy for this relationship as if it is to be a committed relationship, it must progress slowly.
And here is an inherent problem . the emotional level and expectation of the venus/Uranus square is so high , that the slows acknowledgement of the significance of the relationship that can come with the Pluto pattern, may simply wear you out. That is you may feel the future will not bring you together quick enough.
The the dragonhead transited the composite Saturn/Uranus midpoint at 29libra53 on feb 25
The dragonhead transited the composite Uranus/Jupiter midpoint at29libra8 on march 11 march 11.
These aspects show a change in relationships. This could mark the end of a long term relationship, but it could show breakup of a previous relationship by either of you. in this case it could also be the period when romantic interest first developed or was acknowledged between you.
Overall the situation is tenuous as symbols opposite in nature are restive.
The dragonhead transited the Mercury/Neptune mp at 28libra3 on may 18
The dragonhead transited the sun/Neptune mp at 27libr44 may 30
These aspects bode ill no matter what the correct nature of this relationship is. This shows deception or lies of omission. it is lack of communication and clarity about the relationship.
these influence can also be related to cultural or religious differences posing problems.
The energies are not overtly romantic right now. This seems like friendship or it has education/business influences.
I would suggest not making any decisions about this guy until june. There just seems to be too much psychic clutter and changing material conditions to expect any clarity about this relationship.
The uranus/venus square give intense love etc but it is a aspect of affairs so I can’t be to optimistic overall.
rahu
Thesquareof venus and Uranus is an aspect of immediate and intense attraction. This is a aspect of strong psychic energy also. Here the astral abilities can manifest with common dreams, altered realities accompanying sex and a feeling of electricity when together. The attraction is also unbearable but this aspect is also very unstable because the exhilaration when you are together cannot sustain itself. this gives a very high high but on routine matters of a normal relationship boredom or lack of interest can end the relationship . this aspect is usually associated with affairs of the heart but rarely does commitment grows from the heat. This aspect shows the emotional freedom is very important and often this aspect survives only as an open relationship or an off and on relationship.
But this composite also has emotional aspects associated with stable relationships and the love of the mars/venus midpoint conjunct the sun/mercury conjunction shows real affection and joy being with each other .this give openness of feelings and the revelation on deep ideas.
Venus is sextile to pluto and trine to Neptune so there is a sincere supportive and caring feeling between you. this aspect can give emotional strength to overcome the emotional baggage of past relationships.
The sun/moon midpoint is conjunct to Saturn and thereby Jupiter. This shows a real honest and devotion. It bode well for commitment as once enjoined this aspect gives fidelity.
Hmmm the moon/Saturn and moon Jupiter midpoints are conjunct to Pluto. This weakens the possibility of a committed relationship as Pluto unconscious focus usually manifests as distance in a relationship. this aspect shows you should never push for greater intimacy for this relationship as if it is to be a committed relationship, it must progress slowly.
And here is an inherent problem . the emotional level and expectation of the venus/Uranus square is so high , that the slows acknowledgement of the significance of the relationship that can come with the Pluto pattern, may simply wear you out. That is you may feel the future will not bring you together quick enough.
The the dragonhead transited the composite Saturn/Uranus midpoint at 29libra53 on feb 25
The dragonhead transited the composite Uranus/Jupiter midpoint at29libra8 on march 11 march 11.
These aspects show a change in relationships. This could mark the end of a long term relationship, but it could show breakup of a previous relationship by either of you. in this case it could also be the period when romantic interest first developed or was acknowledged between you.
Overall the situation is tenuous as symbols opposite in nature are restive.
The dragonhead transited the Mercury/Neptune mp at 28libra3 on may 18
The dragonhead transited the sun/Neptune mp at 27libr44 may 30
These aspects bode ill no matter what the correct nature of this relationship is. This shows deception or lies of omission. it is lack of communication and clarity about the relationship.
these influence can also be related to cultural or religious differences posing problems.
The energies are not overtly romantic right now. This seems like friendship or it has education/business influences.
I would suggest not making any decisions about this guy until june. There just seems to be too much psychic clutter and changing material conditions to expect any clarity about this relationship.
The uranus/venus square give intense love etc but it is a aspect of affairs so I can’t be to optimistic overall.
rahu
Blackempress
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Just what I needed. It's very true that the relationship is educational/business but likely Uranus-venus excites intensely sometimes.
Dragonhead feature was probably time of ignition of the relationship which is very young.
I see the mars square Neptune characteristics between us-alot of confusion.
Thanks alot for the excellent advise, will be on a watchout.
What is the difference between the open relationship and on relationship? I have read the on relationship term for the first time on your thread. Can you explain a bit to me?
On/off relationship = You take a lot breaks from each other and in the mean time you might sleep with others, which could be emotional cheating but technically you're not in a relationship with each other at that point or you never were in one to begin with. You keep coming back to each other, waiting for a potential better alternative to come along.
Open relationship = Both of you acknowledge the relationship but agree to date others while proclaiming 'emotional devotion' to each other. So, that means that you can sleep around with the consent of your partner and without the fear of hurting his/her feelings. At the end of the day you come back to your actual partner.
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