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MANNER OF DEATH of George Floyd ruled a HOMICIDE
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The family of the 20 yr old Duante Wright, will not accept the premise, that "it was an accident"


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“She was a training officer — so it’s not about training,” he insisted.
“It’s about implicit bias. It’s about giving the same respect and consideration to people of color that we give to white American citizens,” he said.
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Once again, the Marxists BLM.Antifa are exploiting a terrible accidental death to their advantage...to raise millions more & to go looting, burning, killing again with no consequences. When will this 'race-baiting' end? It was a terrible tragedy but it was not a 'racially motivated killing' as the mobs are portraying it. Just as Chauvin's case was an accidental homicide, there is no need to 'jin up the crowd' & create more racial tensions.

Sad that the BLM.Antifa mobs were are violently protesting once again don't have one shred of compassion from the numerous law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty....many of the perpetrators are black men.
Many of the law enforcement officers were black, hispanic but not a tear shed for them. They were either gunned down during a traffic stop, stabbed during an arrest or run down by vehicles accidentally and deliberately.

This list is from the past couple of months. Just a reminder of how dangerous their jobs are.

Deputy Sheriff Christopher Wilson Knight (stabbed)
Sergeant James Smith (gunned down)
Lieutenant James Kouski (hit by car)
Police Officer William Evans (hit by car)
Trooper Chad Walker (gunned down)
Trooper Joseph Gallagher (hit by car)
Corporal Kyle Jeffrey Davis (assault)
Police Officer Eric Talley (gunned down)
Police Officer Kevin Valencia (gunned down)
Border Patrol Agent Alejandro Flores-Bañuelos (hit by car)
Police Officer Gary Hibbs (assault)
Officer Jesse Madsen (hit by car)
Police Officer II Jose Anzora hit by car)
Captain Justin Williams Bedwell (gunned down)
Reserve Deputy Constable Martinus Mitchum (gunned down)

Can we stop the mob madness and get back to reality where it's the cops who are being killed and not black men. Floyd's death was a tragedy, so is Duante Wright's.....but let's not burn the entire country down again.




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Finally, the defense begins their case today.

There is a lot that Chauvin's lawyer will bring forth: Causation, etc.

Should be an interesting next couple of weeks and I hope Chauvin takes the stand but highly unlikely according to legal experts.

#WatchingtheWatchers #DerekChauvin #Chauvin
Chauvin Trial Day 23 Analysis: Prosecution’s Last Witness​



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THERE WERE MOMENTS WHEN DEREK CHAUVIN COULD HAVE MADE DIFFERENT CHOICES
WHICH WOULD HAVE LED TO DIFFERENT OUTCOMES

State prosecutors rested their case
against the former Minneapolis police officer first thing Tuesday
allowing attorney Eric Nelson
to begin calling witnesses in Chauvin's defense.

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Obama did nothing regarding police reform even when he had the 2 branches of gov't. JO'Bama introduced the massive crime bill which set forth mass incarceration of young black men with the 'prison for profit' scam. Harris was known as the 'top cop' & sent women to prison for their children's truancy & put young black men in prison for having small amounts of weed on them. Then she laughed that demented cackle she has when admitting on a radio show that she regularly smokes pot. This is who that woman is & why she never got more than 3% of the vote.

Why do you always have to blame the Right for everything David?

Why do you make ridiculous claims that all police are racist? Or that people who support the police are racist?

Both of these victims Floyd & Wright resisted arrest. When I worked f/t I was stopped many times at night & I always comply & am respectful. Other white people I know cop an attitude with the police & they are asked to step out of the car. A traffic stop is an extremely dangerous situation for police; that's where many are gunned down & if not killed immed, the criminal then runs them over with their car. A very painful death.

Both of these deaths were accidental. Nobody wanted them to die but it happened. BLM.Antifa once again exploiting the situations so they can go 'smash & grab tvs, etc'. burn down police stns, cars, throw bottles, fireworks at police & kill innocent black people. But you don't have a problem with THEM.

I don't think this time around the people are going to allow this thugs to burn the country down again.





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I'm convinced that right-wingers don't give a sh*t about police brutality unless it happens to them. They may claim they do, but when push comes to shove, they're willing to entirely dismiss it as not worth doing anything to solve the problem.

In a lot of areas, especially urban, the hazard of "Driving While Black" is a real phenomenon.
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It's a terrible situation all around but it was an accidental shooting as anyone can surmise when viewing the bodycam. She clearly says 'taser taser taser' as per her training. Like Floyd, who had a violent background & served 5 yrs for brutally assaulting a woman in her own home, Wright too had a violent background. That's likely why he resisted arrest & tried to flee.



EXCLUSIVE: Daunte Wright had a warrant out for his arrest for attempted aggravated robbery charges after 'choking and holding a woman at gunpoint for $820 in 2019,' court papers reveal



Daunte Wright was shot dead by Brooklyn Center Police Officer Kimberly Potter Sunday after he was pulled over for 'expired license plate tags'
DailyMail.com can reveal that Wright, 20, had a warrant out for his arrest for attempted aggravated robbery charges at the time
Charging papers allege Wright and a second man, Emajay Driver, attended a party in December 2019 at the home of two women in Osseo, Minnesota
The women allowed the pair to crash after they said they didn't have a ride home
The next morning, after one of the women went to withdraw $820 in rent money, Wright allegedly held her at gunpoint and demanded she give him the cash
His bail was originally set at $100k with orders that he should not contact the victim or any witnesses, refrain from drugs and alcohol and not have any weapon
It was revoked in July last year due to his 'failure to not possess a firearm or ammunition' and not keeping in touch with his probation officer
DailyMail.com has also learned that online speculation that Wright did not know there was a warrant out for his arrest is false

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-charges.html



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Officer Kim Potter came to the defense of the other 2 officers at that time., not that they even needed helping? This wasn't a dangerous criminal, he was barely out of his teens and frightened of the cops.
I would be TOO in this day and age, if I were black and young.


Officer Potter has since resigned her long career. I would imagine we'll hear about a lawsuit eventually, which will likely name her as a defendant.


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Medical Expert examined by the Defense states:


"...George Floyd did not die from drug overdose..."
Cardiologist: "...George Floyd's death absolutely preventable..."
Dr Rich: "...low levels of oxygen induced by prone restraint..."
George Floyd would have survived if he hadn't been restrained by police

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Finally, the defense begins their case today.

There is a lot that Chauvin's lawyer will bring forth: Causation, etc.

Should be an interesting next couple of weeks and I hope Chauvin takes the stand but highly unlikely according to legal experts.

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Heated Cross Examination
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Q: ‘Mr. Floyd didn’t drop dead while you were interacting with him, correct?’

A: 'No'

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We are now hearing the 'other side of the story'....the defense side and already, they are strongly contesting the 'causation' part of Floyd's death.

TOPLINE A forensic pathologist called as a witness by Derek Chauvin’s defense team testified Wednesday that he believes George Floyd died of heart failure caused by underlying conditions, contradicting the testimony of multiple expert witnesses for the prosecution who said the former Minneapolis police officer’s prolonged restraint of Floyd caused his death.

Dr. David Fowler, Maryland’s former medical chief examiner, said he reviewed Floyd’s case after he was approached by Chauvin’s defense attorney Eric Nelson with the help of fellow experts in a group known as the Forensic Panel.

Fowler said he concluded Floyd suffered a “sudden cardiac arrhythmia” because of his heart disease “during his restraint and subdual by police.”

The medical expert said Floyd’s drug use played a “significant” role, citing the fentanyl and methamphetamine found in Floyd’s body at his time of death, and suggested (for the first time in the trial) that Floyd may have experienced carbon monoxide poisoning from exhaust fumes from the police vehicle.

The Washington Post described him as “among the most respected forensic pathologists in America.”

Derek Chauvin Defense Expert Says George Floyd Died of Cardiac Arrest


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We are now hearing the 'other side of the story'....the defense side and already, they are strongly contesting the 'causation' part of Floyd's death.

TOPLINE A forensic pathologist called as a witness by Derek Chauvin’s defense team testified Wednesday that he believes George Floyd died of heart failure caused by underlying conditions, contradicting the testimony of multiple expert witnesses for the prosecution who said the former Minneapolis police officer’s prolonged restraint of Floyd caused his death.

Dr. David Fowler, Maryland’s former medical chief examiner, said he reviewed Floyd’s case after he was approached by Chauvin’s defense attorney Eric Nelson with the help of fellow experts in a group known as the Forensic Panel.

Fowler said he concluded Floyd suffered a “sudden cardiac arrhythmia” because of his heart disease “during his restraint and subdual by police.”

The medical expert said Floyd’s drug use played a “significant” role, citing the fentanyl and methamphetamine found in Floyd’s body at his time of death, and suggested (for the first time in the trial) that Floyd may have experienced carbon monoxide poisoning from exhaust fumes from the police vehicle.

The Washington Post described him as “among the most respected forensic pathologists in America.”

Derek Chauvin Defense Expert Says George Floyd Died of Cardiac Arrest


https://www.wsj.com/articles/derek-c...st-11618417601




THERE WERE MOMENTS WHEN DEREK CHAUVIN COULD HAVE MADE DIFFERENT CHOICES
WHICH WOULD HAVE LED TO DIFFERENT OUTCOMES

State prosecutors rested their case
against the former Minneapolis police officer first thing Tuesday
allowing attorney Eric Nelson
to begin calling witnesses in Chauvin's defense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygUcQTNhCfU


by the way
keep in mind that the death has been ruled a HOMICIDE







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Riot declared in Portland after protesters set police station on fire


A riot was declared in Portland after at least 100 people descended on a police union building and set it ablaze — as angry protests continue across the US after the death of 20-year-old Daunte Wright in Minnesota.

Yep, they've gotta get those brand new flat screen tvs and scam more millions from the corporations to buy more mansions.

Meanwhile, the violent mob went to officer's house to kill her.

She's been charged with manslaughter as everyone who looks at the videos can clearly see that she reached for her gun instead of her taser.
Wright is violent & could have had a gun with him.
People screaming 'racist' killing don't have a clue about how dangerous it is to deal with violent thugs like Floyd & Wright who wouldn't hesitate to shoot a cop quicker than the mob can burn down a building. They shouldn't have resisted arrest in the first place.

Kimberly Potter arrested, will be charged with manslaughter in Daunte Wright shooting




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Floyd too could have made different choices.

Like not brutally assaulting a woman years ago & served 5 yrs.

Like not engaging in criminal activity like passing counterfeit bills.

Like not resisting arrest.

Like not swallowing his entire stash of drugs in the back of the police car.

And 'homicide' is the act of 'killing' another person.

It's not murder.

Big difference.

You want to declare Chauvin guilty of murder with NO evidence. You want to declare Chauvin a racist when there is NO evidence.

That's what courts are for.

Every person deserves to have THEIR side of the story heard.

This bs narrative that all cops are racist is ludicrous. More of them are murdered by black men, far more then the odd black person who dies by a cop.

In case you are not aware, many black men are dangerous, violent criminals and that's why police have to be extra cautious when dealing with them.

I know I know, I'm a racist right-winger for speaking the truth.

Try working as a police officer for 6 months & see how quickly you would be branded as a racist killer!




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Defence Use of force Expert Barry Brodd police officer for 29 years
takes the stand
and first says Chauvin didn’t exhibit use of force…
BUT
now Barry Brodd is saying it could have been use of force

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Floyd too could have made different choices.
Like not brutally assaulting a woman years ago & served 5 yrs.
Like not engaging in criminal activity like passing counterfeit bills.
Like not resisting arrest.
Like not swallowing his entire stash of drugs in the back of the police car.
And 'homicide' is the act of 'killing' another person.
It's not murder.
Big difference.
You want to declare Chauvin guilty of murder with NO evidence.

You want to declare Chauvin a racist when there is NO evidence.
That's what courts are for.

you said:

" '...homicide...' is the act of '...killing...' another person
It's not murder...."
so you understand that Chauvin is on trial accused of '...killing...' someone

and

it is the Jury who decides based on the evidence
whether murder, manslaughter and so on


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Every person deserves to have THEIR side of the story heard.

This bs narrative that all cops are racist is ludicrous. More of them are murdered by black men, far more then the odd black person who dies by a cop.

In case you are not aware, many black men are dangerous, violent criminals and that's why police have to be extra cautious when dealing with them.

I know I know, I'm a racist right-winger for speaking the truth.

Try working as a police officer for 6 months & see how quickly you would be branded as a racist killer!

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You do realize how courts work right?

The Prosecution presents their case first. They are only going to bring in witnesses that help them prosecute the accused. They are not always moral, honest or fair. That's why every person deserves a good defense attorney. Most people can't afford their own lawyers and get poor representation with gov't paid ones. The prosecution which is the gov't have unlimited resources and that's why there are so many innocent people in jail or people who have to take plea deals even though they may be innocent of the charges.

Nobody is denying that Floyd died while being restrained by Chauvin..but the legal question is whether it was accidental or deliberate, whether there were other factors involved in his death.

The defense lawyer is very good, even with the 11 well-heeled prosecutors and millions of dollars at their disposal to pay their 'expert' witnesses. He has already poked holes in their case with some testifying that Chauvin's restraint was not unusual or uncommon.
He has cross-examined very well & got a couple of the 'experts' to admit that the high level of drugs in Floyd's system could have contributed to his breathing problems.

Now, he has brought in a very prominent pathologist who said that heart attack led to Floyd's death, not the restraint (which was perfectly legal back then).

Let's allow the trial to proceed without want to put Chauvin in front of a firing squad.
There has been zero evidence that Chauvin was racist & out to murder Floyd.

The law is governed by Saturn factual evidence. Give the defense lawyer time to present his case before jumping to conclusions based on emotional hyperbole.

Derek Chauvin Defense Day One: Expert Says Restraint of George Floyd Was Reasonable

Former Minneapolis police officer’s attorney, Eric Nelson, is trying to show Mr. Floyd died of drugs and heart disease, not Mr. Chauvin’s use of force


https://www.wsj.com/articles/derek-c...th-11618325244
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Law and Crime Panel Says Defense Made a ‘...Mistake...’
Showing Footage of George Floyd’s Prior Arrest

Law and Crime legal analyst Gene Rossi
says the way Officer Creighton handled George Floyd
compared to Derek Chauvin
is ‘...180 degrees....’


Saying the defense showing the bodycam footage
is a ‘...stupid use of this incident...’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwlN1IEdLr4



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You do realize how courts work right?

The Prosecution presents their case first. They are only going to bring in witnesses that help them prosecute the accused. They are not always moral, honest or fair. That's why every person deserves a good defense attorney. Most people can't afford their own lawyers and get poor representation with gov't paid ones. The prosecution which is the gov't have unlimited resources and that's why there are so many innocent people in jail or people who have to take plea deals even though they may be innocent of the charges.

Nobody is denying that Floyd died while being restrained by Chauvin..but the legal question is whether it was accidental or deliberate, whether there were other factors involved in his death.

The defense lawyer is very good, even with the 11 well-heeled prosecutors and millions of dollars at their disposal to pay their 'expert' witnesses. He has already poked holes in their case with some testifying that Chauvin's restraint was not unusual or uncommon.
He has cross-examined very well & got a couple of the 'experts' to admit that the high level of drugs in Floyd's system could have contributed to his breathing problems.

Now, he has brought in a very prominent pathologist who said that heart attack led to Floyd's death, not the restraint (which was perfectly legal back then).

Let's allow the trial to proceed without want to put Chauvin in front of a firing squad.
There has been zero evidence that Chauvin was racist & out to murder Floyd.

The law is governed by Saturn factual evidence. Give the defense lawyer time to present his case before jumping to conclusions based on emotional hyperbole.

Derek Chauvin Defense Day One: Expert Says Restraint of George Floyd Was Reasonable

Former Minneapolis police officer’s attorney, Eric Nelson, is trying to show Mr. Floyd died of drugs and heart disease, not Mr. Chauvin’s use of force


https://www.wsj.com/articles/derek-c...th-11618325244
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EXPLAINER: Legion of Chauvin prosecutors, each with own role


Viewers watching the trial of a former Minneapolis officer charged with murder in George Floyd ’s death may be struck by the array of prosecutors taking turns presenting their case. The choice of who does what is no accident.

While Derek Chauvin ’s attorney, Eric Nelson, works alone, the prosecution is being handled by two assistant attorneys general, Matthew Frank and Erin Eldridge, and two outside lawyers, Jerry Blackwell and Steve Schleicher. Ten more are working behind the scenes, many for free.



Please remember that a person can be charged with a number of crimes and may be innocent of all the charges.


Also, please remember the violent Antifa.BLM mobs which are there to intimidate the jury.

I think they shouldn't have had a trial for a year or so because I don't think Chauvin can even get a fair trial. Do you honestly believe the jury will feel safe if they acquit him?


BLM activist: 'All hell' will break loose and buildings will burn 'if George Floyd's murderer is not sentenced'


These violent mobs now want to dictate how courts operate and the trial verdicts. That's not justice, that's terrorism. They should all be declared domestic terrorists instead of being celebrated and given millions.




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EXPLAINER: Legion of Chauvin prosecutors, each with own role


Viewers watching the trial of a former Minneapolis officer charged with murder in George Floyd ’s death may be struck by the array of prosecutors taking turns presenting their case. The choice of who does what is no accident.

While Derek Chauvin ’s attorney, Eric Nelson, works alone, the prosecution is being handled by two assistant attorneys general, Matthew Frank and Erin Eldridge, and two outside lawyers, Jerry Blackwell and Steve Schleicher. Ten more are working behind the scenes, many for free.



Please remember that a person can be charged with a number of crimes and may be innocent of all the charges.

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EXPERT WITNESS DR MARTIN TOBIN ILLUSTRATES

HOW LAW ENFORCEMENT BODYWEIGHT

DEPRIVED GEORGE FLOYD OF ABILITY TO BREATHE




Also, please remember the violent Antifa.BLM mobs which are there to intimidate the jury.

I think they shouldn't have had a trial for a year or so because I don't think Chauvin can even get a fair trial. Do you honestly believe the jury will feel safe if they acquit him?


BLM activist: 'All hell' will break loose and buildings will burn 'if George Floyd's murderer is not sentenced'


These violent mobs now want to dictate how courts operate and the trial verdicts. That's not justice, that's terrorism. They should all be declared domestic terrorists instead of being celebrated and given millions.


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“Justice” apparently now means people riot in the street if they don’t get the conviction that they want.

also keep in mind

that Derek Chauvin chose to act the way he chose to act
and

the consequence is a trial

where George Floyd is accused of George Floyd death by HOMICIDE
and it is
the Jury decision, based on evidence for and against
whether culpable or not



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Fowler is a former medical examiner

called by Derek Chauvin's defense attorney

to testify about Floyd's cause of death.
He said his opinion is that Floyd died from a "...sudden cardiac arrhythmia..."

contradicting the state's experts
who said Floyd died from low oxygen.

HOWEVER


Dr. David Fowler acknowledged that as a physician
he believes
George Floyd should have been given "...immediate medical attention...."
when he went into cardiac arrest.


Dr. David Fowler: Immediate medical aid could have helped George Floyd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dblpHn0P_KM
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you said:

" '...homicide...' is the act of '...killing...' another person
It's not murder...."
so you understand that Chauvin is on trial accused of '...killing...' someone

and

it is the Jury who decides based on the evidence
whether murder, manslaughter and so on


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Fowler is a former medical examiner

called by Derek Chauvin's defense attorney

to testify about Floyd's cause of death.
He said his opinion is that Floyd died from a "...sudden cardiac arrhythmia..."

contradicting the state's experts
who said Floyd died from low oxygen.

HOWEVER


Dr. David Fowler acknowledged that as a physician
he believes
George Floyd should have been given "...immediate medical attention...."
when he went into cardiac arrest.


Dr. David Fowler: Immediate medical aid could have helped George Floyd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dblpHn0P_KM
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What about causing a death that was preventable, due to "depraved indifference"?

That appears to have been what occurred in this case.

Is that "voluntary manslaughter"?

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What about causing a death that was preventable, due to "depraved indifference"?

That appears to have been what occurred in this case.

Is that "voluntary manslaughter"?

" '...homicide...' is the act of '...killing...' another person...."
and so
Derek Chauvin is on trial accused of '...killing...' someone
and

it is the Jury who are expected to make their decision
based on evidence in tandem with expert testimony
brought forward by both Defence as well as Prosecution
as to what particular variety of killling George Floyds death was
and currently
not all expert testimony has been presented to the Jury





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Judge Cahill denies defense request for acquittal

in Derek Chauvin Trial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9fEZN2Ym9c






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Former US Attorney Rachel Paulose
and now a visiting law professor at the University of St. Thomas
spoke with Jana Shortal

on the developments of the 13th day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhnMXNcxuns




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Here's a recap of the witnesses
who testified Tuesday in the Chauvin trial
for the homicide of George Floyd.
A review of the witnesses suggest that
the defense may be doing itself more harm than good.
Did Chauvin's Defense Witnesses Score ANY Points

or

Did They Actually Hurt Chauvin's Case?


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