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As you probably know, there are multiple systems of triplicities, mainly Dorethean, Ptolemy’s and Morin’s. From my experience, most astrologers settle on Dorothean. It’s understandable since that’s the oldest recorded system of triplicities (correct me if I’m wrong) and many astrologers have satisfactory results using them. However, I’ve never truly understood the system behind neither Dorothean nor Ptolemy’s triplicities. I mean, the idea of triplicities makes perfect sense to me but the choice of planets for each element and sect is not clear. I’ve seen some attempts at explanations but they were rather inconsistent and didn’t convince me. There is an understandable structure in Morin’s triplicities but I have no idea why it should make sense, according to him. So I pondered if I can rework this system so it makes sense and can be explained and I think I got it. Of course, I’m totally OK if you disagree with me, I want to discuss my idea, not shove it down your throat.
So that’s how my proposed system looks overall:
Element | Day ruler | Night ruler | Participating ruler
Fire | Sun | Jupiter | Mars
Earth | Venus | Saturn | Mercury
Air | Saturn | Mercury | Venus
Water | Mars | Moon | Jupiter
I’m not completely decided on participating rulers but I’m pretty sure about day and night rulers. So, as you can see, there are three main disagreements between my system and Dorothean. Those differences are: Saturn as the night ruler for earth instead of the Moon (just like Morin thinks, hmm), Mars as the day ruler for water instead of Venus (it matches Ptolemy though) and the Moon as the night ruler for water instead of Mars (interesting that Morin thinks so too, even though I disagree with his idea).
The main reasoning here is that each element opposing to another (pairs fire-air and earth-water) are represented by opposing planets. I know about the concept of planetary friends and enemies but that’s not what I imply. What I mean boils down to domiciles. For instance, take the pair Sun for fire in the daytime and Saturn for air in the daytime. The Sun, ruling Leo is opposite Saturn, ruling Aquarius. So this way the “bond” is formed. You can take any other pair to check it. Each of the planets is like a weight on scales, so that’s why each pair has to happen in the same sect. In my example, it’s Saturn who balances the Sun in the daytime and vice versa.
So now explaining the choice for each planet. The Sun is quite obviously the day ruler for fire because it rules Leo and Saturn, the ruler of Aquarius, quite naturally balances it being a day ruler for air. The Moon is the night ruler for water because it rules Cancer and Saturn, the ruler of Capricorn, also balances it being a night ruler for earth. OK, those two pairs were probably the easiest ones. The next pairs are Mercury-Jupiter and Venus-Mars, but here it is somewhat harder to determine the right place. Let’s take Mercury and Venus, for example. Quite obviously, it is either Mercury as the day ruler for earth (Virgo) and Venus as the night ruler for air (Libra) or Mercury as the night ruler for air (Gemini) and Venus as the day ruler for earth (Taurus). I think the latter option is better. Maybe my explanation can seem a bit slippery, but the thing is that air signs in general are detached which goes better along with thinking, analysis etc. (Mercury) while earth signs in general make an emphasis on sensing and feeling (Venus). Virgo is still a great placement for Mercury, ditto with Libra for Venus, but the general meaning of elements they belong to is a bit different. We can also analyze Mars and Jupiter. Here we have Mars as the night ruler for fire (Aries) and Jupiter as the day ruler for water (Pisces) or Mars as the day ruler for water (Scorpio) and Jupiter as the night ruler for fire (Sagittarius). Once again, I think the latter option is better. Jupiter risks being too biased and subjective in the daytime, being heated by the Sun, to carry any essential dignity, especially since we’re talking about emotional water signs. Mars, on the other hand, doesn’t have a good drive to act in the colder nighttime, while in the daytime there’s enough solar energy to keep its wheels moving (the Sun makes water boil!). So overall, everything falls into place rather nicely. As for participating rulers, all of them rule a sign of an element that wasn’t used for determining day or night rulers. Yes, Morin uses the same logic but I have nothing to do with him, I swear! By the way, notice how all of 12 signs have their meaning in this system because all of them helped to determine rulers of each sect + the participating one. If you don’t like my explanation, I can try to come up with a better one!
So now knowing about possible objections (which are probably fair!), I’ll try to speak about some I’d have myself.
1. Why would Saturn be the night ruler for a triplicity of feminine signs? Neither its sect nor sign polarity corresponds to the fact that Saturn is a diurnal planet. It’s a very fair objection. One thing I’d want to point out though is that Saturn is also a ruler of air signs, which are masculine, in the daytime. Notice how Venus, for example, rules a triplicity of feminine signs in the daytime in any system, so there is a blend of two energies. The same with Jupiter. With Mars is depends on the system, but overall if there is a logic, I don’t see why Mars should be viewed as an exception. With the Sun and the Moon the situation is clearer. The Sun is the primary masculine (yang) energy so there is no meaning to mix it with some feminine (yin) energy. The reverse is true for the Moon. Saturn is the only planet which sect and polarity are the same in both cases because its purpose is to balance the Sun and the Moon, but its duality is what keeps it balanced too. Yes, Saturn is still a diurnal planet, I’m not making a revolutionary “discovery” here, so it’s still easier to deal with diurnal Saturn that with the nocturnal one, but it doesn’t mean that it is the reason to ditch Saturn as having no dignity in earth signs in the nighttime. I believe that triplicities are related to sects but they are very different in their meanings and purposes.
2. Why two Saturns? It seems like it’s one Saturn too much. I agree, it’s actually two Saturns too much, hehe. (What a nasty planet). However, why should there be two Venuses? Or two Marses? There are 7 planets (traditionally at least) so there is one hole that has to be filled with something, and there should be a good reason for that. I think the reason, as I explained it, is quite sufficient.
3. But what about the Moon in Scorpio? It’s in fall... Well, that’s correct, but the Moon in Capricorn is even worse, because it’s in detriment, and fall is the lesser of two evils. Triplicity doesn’t completely eliminate the debility of fall, just like with Venus in Virgo and Mars in Cancer. However, it puts a planet into more comfortable conditions and gives an extra boost so the planet can at least partially achieve its potential and become less confined by being in fall. Scorpio is a highly emotional and sensitive sign, even being ruled by Mars, but its feelings and emotions often get streamed into anger, jealousy, passionate hate etc., but in the nighttime all those aggressive feelings are more moderate and less intense.
I can’t really say I’ve legitimately tested my system but, you know, it’s not easy. However, I can give you my example. I was born in the nighttime and in my system my Jupiter, Moon and Saturn are in triplicity. In Dorothean triplicities I have Jupiter and Mars in triplicity. I'll take my Saturn as an example. My Saturn is peregrine (not in any kind of reception also!). I honestly think I’m quite lucky dealing with Saturnian matters. Yes, it’s not always easy to put my Saturn under control because it’s out of sect but overall I know when to stop, how to do things on time, how to be responsible and accept mistakes etc. The boundaries which Saturn sets in general are very understandable to me and I deal with them quite successfully. I’m not poisoned with depressive thoughts even though Saturn is prominent in my chart. It’s always me who stops my friends, family members or other people when I see they act aggressively, disrespectfully or break the “laws” in general. I can sometimes throw a tantrum but I’m still fully aware of how and why I’m doing it because there always is a reason for it. OK, I understand that my Saturn can’t be compared in its strength to the ones in Capricorn and Aquarius, but somehow I find it hard to believe that it’s peregrine. (As a side note, I don’t have any personal planets in Capricorn and Aquarius). Another important thing is that my Almuten changes depending on the system (using Ibn Ezra’s method). If I use Dorothean triplicities, it’s Mars, but in my system it’s the Moon. I honestly feel like the Moon being my Almuten is closer to my personality. My Mars is comparatively strong, but I generally lean towards the Moon as reflecting the core of my personality better.
So what do you think? Congratulations and thank you if you’ve read my post entirely. I appreciate it.
So that’s how my proposed system looks overall:
Element | Day ruler | Night ruler | Participating ruler
Fire | Sun | Jupiter | Mars
Earth | Venus | Saturn | Mercury
Air | Saturn | Mercury | Venus
Water | Mars | Moon | Jupiter
I’m not completely decided on participating rulers but I’m pretty sure about day and night rulers. So, as you can see, there are three main disagreements between my system and Dorothean. Those differences are: Saturn as the night ruler for earth instead of the Moon (just like Morin thinks, hmm), Mars as the day ruler for water instead of Venus (it matches Ptolemy though) and the Moon as the night ruler for water instead of Mars (interesting that Morin thinks so too, even though I disagree with his idea).
The main reasoning here is that each element opposing to another (pairs fire-air and earth-water) are represented by opposing planets. I know about the concept of planetary friends and enemies but that’s not what I imply. What I mean boils down to domiciles. For instance, take the pair Sun for fire in the daytime and Saturn for air in the daytime. The Sun, ruling Leo is opposite Saturn, ruling Aquarius. So this way the “bond” is formed. You can take any other pair to check it. Each of the planets is like a weight on scales, so that’s why each pair has to happen in the same sect. In my example, it’s Saturn who balances the Sun in the daytime and vice versa.
So now explaining the choice for each planet. The Sun is quite obviously the day ruler for fire because it rules Leo and Saturn, the ruler of Aquarius, quite naturally balances it being a day ruler for air. The Moon is the night ruler for water because it rules Cancer and Saturn, the ruler of Capricorn, also balances it being a night ruler for earth. OK, those two pairs were probably the easiest ones. The next pairs are Mercury-Jupiter and Venus-Mars, but here it is somewhat harder to determine the right place. Let’s take Mercury and Venus, for example. Quite obviously, it is either Mercury as the day ruler for earth (Virgo) and Venus as the night ruler for air (Libra) or Mercury as the night ruler for air (Gemini) and Venus as the day ruler for earth (Taurus). I think the latter option is better. Maybe my explanation can seem a bit slippery, but the thing is that air signs in general are detached which goes better along with thinking, analysis etc. (Mercury) while earth signs in general make an emphasis on sensing and feeling (Venus). Virgo is still a great placement for Mercury, ditto with Libra for Venus, but the general meaning of elements they belong to is a bit different. We can also analyze Mars and Jupiter. Here we have Mars as the night ruler for fire (Aries) and Jupiter as the day ruler for water (Pisces) or Mars as the day ruler for water (Scorpio) and Jupiter as the night ruler for fire (Sagittarius). Once again, I think the latter option is better. Jupiter risks being too biased and subjective in the daytime, being heated by the Sun, to carry any essential dignity, especially since we’re talking about emotional water signs. Mars, on the other hand, doesn’t have a good drive to act in the colder nighttime, while in the daytime there’s enough solar energy to keep its wheels moving (the Sun makes water boil!). So overall, everything falls into place rather nicely. As for participating rulers, all of them rule a sign of an element that wasn’t used for determining day or night rulers. Yes, Morin uses the same logic but I have nothing to do with him, I swear! By the way, notice how all of 12 signs have their meaning in this system because all of them helped to determine rulers of each sect + the participating one. If you don’t like my explanation, I can try to come up with a better one!
So now knowing about possible objections (which are probably fair!), I’ll try to speak about some I’d have myself.
1. Why would Saturn be the night ruler for a triplicity of feminine signs? Neither its sect nor sign polarity corresponds to the fact that Saturn is a diurnal planet. It’s a very fair objection. One thing I’d want to point out though is that Saturn is also a ruler of air signs, which are masculine, in the daytime. Notice how Venus, for example, rules a triplicity of feminine signs in the daytime in any system, so there is a blend of two energies. The same with Jupiter. With Mars is depends on the system, but overall if there is a logic, I don’t see why Mars should be viewed as an exception. With the Sun and the Moon the situation is clearer. The Sun is the primary masculine (yang) energy so there is no meaning to mix it with some feminine (yin) energy. The reverse is true for the Moon. Saturn is the only planet which sect and polarity are the same in both cases because its purpose is to balance the Sun and the Moon, but its duality is what keeps it balanced too. Yes, Saturn is still a diurnal planet, I’m not making a revolutionary “discovery” here, so it’s still easier to deal with diurnal Saturn that with the nocturnal one, but it doesn’t mean that it is the reason to ditch Saturn as having no dignity in earth signs in the nighttime. I believe that triplicities are related to sects but they are very different in their meanings and purposes.
2. Why two Saturns? It seems like it’s one Saturn too much. I agree, it’s actually two Saturns too much, hehe. (What a nasty planet). However, why should there be two Venuses? Or two Marses? There are 7 planets (traditionally at least) so there is one hole that has to be filled with something, and there should be a good reason for that. I think the reason, as I explained it, is quite sufficient.
3. But what about the Moon in Scorpio? It’s in fall... Well, that’s correct, but the Moon in Capricorn is even worse, because it’s in detriment, and fall is the lesser of two evils. Triplicity doesn’t completely eliminate the debility of fall, just like with Venus in Virgo and Mars in Cancer. However, it puts a planet into more comfortable conditions and gives an extra boost so the planet can at least partially achieve its potential and become less confined by being in fall. Scorpio is a highly emotional and sensitive sign, even being ruled by Mars, but its feelings and emotions often get streamed into anger, jealousy, passionate hate etc., but in the nighttime all those aggressive feelings are more moderate and less intense.
I can’t really say I’ve legitimately tested my system but, you know, it’s not easy. However, I can give you my example. I was born in the nighttime and in my system my Jupiter, Moon and Saturn are in triplicity. In Dorothean triplicities I have Jupiter and Mars in triplicity. I'll take my Saturn as an example. My Saturn is peregrine (not in any kind of reception also!). I honestly think I’m quite lucky dealing with Saturnian matters. Yes, it’s not always easy to put my Saturn under control because it’s out of sect but overall I know when to stop, how to do things on time, how to be responsible and accept mistakes etc. The boundaries which Saturn sets in general are very understandable to me and I deal with them quite successfully. I’m not poisoned with depressive thoughts even though Saturn is prominent in my chart. It’s always me who stops my friends, family members or other people when I see they act aggressively, disrespectfully or break the “laws” in general. I can sometimes throw a tantrum but I’m still fully aware of how and why I’m doing it because there always is a reason for it. OK, I understand that my Saturn can’t be compared in its strength to the ones in Capricorn and Aquarius, but somehow I find it hard to believe that it’s peregrine. (As a side note, I don’t have any personal planets in Capricorn and Aquarius). Another important thing is that my Almuten changes depending on the system (using Ibn Ezra’s method). If I use Dorothean triplicities, it’s Mars, but in my system it’s the Moon. I honestly feel like the Moon being my Almuten is closer to my personality. My Mars is comparatively strong, but I generally lean towards the Moon as reflecting the core of my personality better.
So what do you think? Congratulations and thank you if you’ve read my post entirely. I appreciate it.