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President Drumpf intiates a Fascist Dictadorship

(there is no other way to see this.drumpf has ordered the justice department and the fbi to hand over all the papers concerning his investigatons... and they did. this is the end of democracy .
the entire drug addicted Washington establishment is bending to Drumpf and his puppeteer Netanyahu. rahu)

Giuliani accidentally reveals the real purpose of Trump’s extraordinary Oval Office meeting

"We can’t let our guy go in and be questioned without knowing this."(what kind of insanity is this?.trump will see all the evidence against him and we are expected to believe the truth will come out?rahu)

On Monday, President Donald Trump summoned Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, FBI Director Christopher Wray, and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats to the Oval Office and demanded to see documents related to the ongoing investigation of his own campaign.
At issue is the FBI’s use of an informant who communicated with members of the Trump campaign team. Trump has inaccurately described the man, who has been widely reported as Cambridge professor Stefan Halper — a highly regarded veteran of previous Republican administrations — as a “spy.”

The issue of Halper’s role as an informant has lately been pushed by House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, who has consistently worked in tandem with the White House in a broad effort to undermine the special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation. Nunes previouslyissued a subpoena demanding classified information pertaining to the investigation, including Halper’s identity, from the Department of Justice.

Typically, the president does not interfere with individual investigations conducted by the Department of Justice, the idea being that the Department of Justice should be allowed to impartially apply the law and not get mixed up in the political prerogatives of the chief executive. In this case, Trump appears to be interfering with an investigation that involves, among other things, his own conduct, raising questions about whether or not this constitutes a profound breach of ethics.
Rudy Giuliani, one of Trump’s personal lawyers, made a game attempt to present this Oval Office meeting as legitimate by claiming that Trump called itin his official capacity as president.” Reached for comment by USA Today, Giuliani insisted that Trump merely “wants to make sure that the relevant members of Congress get a chance to see what they are entitled to see.”( what amazing lie.drumpf is demolishing the standards set by senator Joe McCarty in the 1950's for destroying our democracy rahu)
In a separate interview, however, Giuliani made the exact opposite point.
Giuliani told HuffPost that Trump needed the information about the informant before deciding whether to agree to an interview with special counsel Robert Mueller. “We can’t let our guy go in and be questioned without knowing this,” he said.

In other words, according to Giuliani, Trump convened the meeting to gain a strategic advantage in his personal negotiations with the special counsel. Access to information held by investigators is something that would benefit any person of interest in a criminal probe. But in nearly all circumstances it is unavailable unless the person is formally charged. In this case, Trump is attempting to use the powers of the presidency to demand the information.
Moreover, Giuliani isn’t even pretending that Congress would be the sole recipient of this information. Rather, as his personal attorney, Giuliani is admitting Trump called the meeting to better inform his strategy.
So far it appears to be working. In a statement released yesterday after the meeting, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein announced he would allow members of Congress to “review highly classified and other information they have requested.”(which means the congress will give this information to drumpf also. the country is going to fall into blood letting if these actions do infact occur rahu)

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(if only it is this easy, the democrats are just as swamped by drugs and pedophilia as the republicans rahu)

Dem lawmaker: We will impeach Trump if we retake the House

Rep. Al GreenAlexander (Al) N. GreenThe Memo: Trump team stokes fight over MuellerHouse Dem makes fiery call for Trump's impeachmentHouse Dems accuse GOP of myriad oversight failures on TrumpMORE (D-Texas) is promising that Democrats will impeach President TrumpDonald John TrumpWH aides intentionally compose Trump tweets with grammatical mistakes: reportHolder: DOJ, FBI should reject Trump's requestsEx-Trump campaign adviser rips claims of spy in campaign: It's 'embarrassing'MORE if the party wins the House in November.
"There’s a good likelihood there will be articles of impeachment” brought against Trump, Green said Tuesday while appearing on C-SPAN.
When asked about the likelihood that House Minority Leader Nancy PelosiNancy Patricia D'Alesandro PelosiDems expand 2018 message to ‘draining the swamp’McCarthy denies that he's discussed plan to force out RyanJuan Williams: Trump gives life to the leftMORE (D-Calif.) would introduce articles of impeachment against the president, Green pushed back, saying that “every member of the House is accorded the opportunity to bring up impeachment.”
“This is not something the Constitution has bestowed upon leadership,” said Green, who previously introduced two articles of impeachment that failed on the House floor. “It’s something every member has the right and privilege of doing. I am not sure that there will be members who are going to wait for someone else if that someone else, doesn’t matter who it is, is declining to do it.”

Last week, Green doubled down on his push to impeach Trump against the wishes of Democratic leadership, arguing there is "bigotry emanating from the presidency.”
During an impassioned floor speech last week, the Texas Democrat cited the president’s travel ban, his opposition to transgender people serving in the military and his immigration policy as reasons to impeach Trump.
Some House Democrats have signed on to an effort to introduce articles of impeachment against Trump, but the movement has yet to gain traction with Democratic leadership.
Pelosi has tried to dismiss efforts to pursue impeachment proceedings. In April, Pelosi called Democrats' efforts to impeach Trump a "gift" for Republicans ahead of November's midterm elections.
“I don’t think we should be talking about impeachment. I’ve been very clear right from the start,” Pelosi said during a press briefing last month.
“On the political side I think it’s a gift to the Republicans,” she added. “We want to talk about what they’re doing to undermine working families in our country and what we are doing to increase their payrolls and lower their costs.”
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( this is a trademark of fascism, using violent methods to silence inquiry and dissent rahu)

Watch: Sarah Huckabee Sanders shouts down reporter who asks question about people being roughed up by Scott Pruitt’s security

Embattled EPA boss Scott Pruitt gave a speech about water pollution today, and several journalists who were supposed to report on it were unable to watch.

Pruitt’s security removed reporters from CNN and the Associated Press, saying that there was not room for them. However, photos inside from political news outlet The Hill the room showed plenty of empty seats.

The Associated Press reported that security guards “grabbed the reporter by the shoulders and shoved her forcibly out of the EPA building.”

White House spokesperson Sarah Huckabee Sanders was asked about the incident in her daily press briefing and refused to answer.

NBC’s Hallie Jackson asked about the reported incident whether Trump feels it’s appropriate to rough-up reporters.

“I’m not going to weigh in to random hypotheticals incident that may or may not exist,” Sanders said. “You’re asking me to speak to blanket possibilities which I’m not going to do.”
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George Orwell’s ‘Animal Farm’ provides the perfect guide to authoritarianism in the Trump era
We just so happen to have a handy portrayal of common characteristics of a tyrant, so let’s see how Trump compares.

In the mid 1940s the author George Orwell was alarmed by the possibility that, in a society aspiring to be free and fair, an authoritarian figure might ascend to power and erode the sovereignties cherished by the people.

Orwell’s concern was no idle matter. In the aftermath of the 1917 Russian Revolution that deposed the monarchy, Orwell watched as the promising socialist society emerging in Russia was instead commandeered by the dictator Joseph Stalin, and tragically misdirected into totalitarianism.

So Orwell took to his pen and wrote a simple allegorical tale, “Animal Farm,” in which he described the telltale signs of totalitarianism to make them easily recognizable for all to see.

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The story takes place on a farm, which serves as the equivalent of a nation. The animals on the farm come to realize that they are being exploited for their labor by their human farmer, so the animals rise up in revolt and chase the human farmer from the property. (This resembles both the Russian Revolution of 1917 and the American Revolution of 1776.) The animals are left in control of the farm and must decide how to govern themselves.

The animals quickly agree on a set of core principles with the central tenet being that all animals will be treated equally. They adopt a set of commandments, such as not interacting with humans, not wearing clothes, not drinking alcohol and not killing any animal.

During their debates, the animals recognize that the pigs seem to possess the highest intelligence, as distinguished from the lesser intelligent creatures, such as sheep, hens and ducks. Two pigs emerge as leaders, one named Napoleon (whom Orwell likely intended as a representation of Stalin), and the other named Snowball.

Differing viewpoints begin to emerge between Napoleon and Snowball, so the animals decide to hold a vote. Napoleon says very little, and he fails to offer constructive proposals for governing. Instead, he primarily attacks the ideas proposed by Snowball. Napoleon also relies on projecting a sense of power and an ability to get his way, and he advocates for arming the animals and building up their defenses in case the farm is attacked.

Snowball, on the other hand, is enthusiastic and offers numerous constructive proposals for governing, such as forming committees to include many animals in the governing process, educating the animals and building a windmill to create electricity. Instead of arming themselves, Snowball desires to reach out to animals on neighboring farms to build a broader animal movement, thereby preferring education and cooperation over military escalation. Snowball gives an inspiring presentation of his vision for the animal community, and it seems apparent that Snowball has much better ideas.

Before any votes are cast, however, Napoleon unleashes a pack of vicious attack dogs. It turns out that he had previously taken a litter of puppies at birth and secretly raised them in isolation to become his loyal guards. Snowball is suddenly forced to flee for his life and is chased off the farm to be seen no more.

Many of the animals are not intelligent enough to know what to make of this, but they generally sense that something is not quite right. A few of the younger pigs, who are more intelligent, begin to speak out in objection. But the attack dogs surrounding Napoleon start to snarl, and the “stupider” sheep, whom Napoleon had intentionally targeted as his base of supporters, shout out over and over the simplistic slogan, “Four legs good, two legs bad!” (meaning animals over humans), which prevents any debate or dissent.

Napoleon steps to the front and claims that everyone knows full well that Snowball is nothing more than a “criminal.”

Huh? Snowball? A criminal? But there is absolutely no basis for such an allegation.

Wait a minute. This is all too familiar. Orwell presumably meant this to remind readers of the power struggle between Stalin and his longtime rival, Leon Trotsky, following the death of the revolutionary leader Vladimir Lenin. But it is also strikingly reminiscent of Donald Trump demonizing his opponent, Hillary Clinton, as “Crooked Hillary.”

Just like Napoleon, Trump failed to offer meaningful proposals of his own, but instead campaigned on attacking the proposals of Clinton and President Barack Obama. Health care is a prime example. Trump ranted and raved about repealing Obamacare, but he never had a replacement plan. The same is true with Trump’s opposition to the Paris climate accords, the Iran nuclear deal, the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement (TPP), and the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

Instead of offering constructive plans of his own, Trump, like Napoleon, unleashed attack dogs against his opponents. And like the sheep supporting Napoleon that repeatedly bleated out a mindless slogan that stifled dialogue, Trump’s flock of sheep bleated-out their own mindless slogans, such as “lock her up,” “build the wall,” and “CNN *****.”

On Orwell’s animal farm, Napoleon assumes control. He announces that all decisions will be made by a committee comprised exclusively of pigs, the committee will be controlled by him, and the committee will meet in private and announce decisions only after they have been made.

The animals again sense that something is not quite right here. They are told that this is the only way. After all, they do not wish for humans to return and retake the farm, do they?

Goodness, no! Of course, this way is much better than humans returning. So the animals accept what they are told.

Under Napoleon’s mismanagement, the farm soon experiences all sorts of difficulties, such as crop failures and food shortages. The animals cast a suspicious eye toward Napoleon, but he has an explanation. All the problems, he tells them, are entirely the fault of none other than … Snowball!

Ha! This is a classic Trump technique. Blame Obama! Blame Hillary!

Trump and Napoleon both play upon the fears of their constituents to cast themselves as indispensable protectors. Napoleon repeatedly reminds the animals of the grave threat of humans returning, even though Napoleon’s rule is unrelated to whether humans might return.

Similarly, Trump constantly stokes the fears of the populace over immigration, crime committed by immigrants, the immigrant gang MS-13, terrorist attacks, large numbers of Muslims entering the country, China stealing American jobs, inner-city crime and so on.

By selecting only pigs as members of the ruling elite, Napoleon creates a system of racial discrimination. Trump has also been accused of racial discrimination.

Napoleon, like Trump, seeks to instill loyalty in his followers. This is typical of dictators because “loyal” supporters will go to any lengths to serve their leader, including concealing wrongdoing by the leader or even engaging in wrongdoing themselves.

On the farm, Napoleon increasingly lives a lifestyle of ever greater luxury. Despite the fact that the animals had previously agreed that no animal would ever live in the lavish human farmhouse, Napoleon blatantly violates this pact and moves into the farmhouse. Napoleon breaks other resolutions as well, one after the next, such as by wearing clothes, sleeping in a soft human bed and drinking alcohol.

Trump also breaks presidential norms, such as profiting from his personal business while serving as president, appointing family members to government offices, seeking to use the Justice Department and the FBI for his own personal objectives, and undermining a congressional committee investigation.

Napoleon begins to misdirect farm resources to himself in order to support his increasingly luxurious lifestyle, and this leaves the animals to suffer hardship and lack of food.

The animals have a vague sense that something is awry. But Napoleon has a plan for keeping the animals in the dark – Lie!

And, oh boy, does he lie! This little piggy takes lying to a new level. Napoleon himself is not such a convincing speaker, but another pig on the farm, by the name of Squealer, is a brilliant speaker. So Napoleon regularly sends out Squealer to bamboozle the animals.

Squealer has a nice way about him. He has a warm smile and “twinkling eyes.” As he explains his points, he has a way of “skipping from side to side and whisking his tail which was somehow very persuasive.”

But Squealer lies like you would not believe, from itty-bitty falsehoods to whale-sized whoppers. In fact, the big ones are more than just lies. They are not just variants of the truth, but are the 180-degree, exact opposites of the truth. Squealer, as they say, “could turn black into white.” His lies alter history, present completely new facts and altogether create an entirely new alternate reality.

One common lie is to blame everything on Snowball. And since this seems to be working, Napoleon’s supporters pile it on. They say Snowball was sneaking onto the farm at night and destroying the crops, stealing the eggs and milking the cows while everyone else slept. Snowball is now actively attempting to sabotage the farm, they say. No wait, it’s even worse: Snowball has all along been in cahoots with humans in a grand conspiracy to invade the farm!

The animals are skeptical. They say they knew Snowball well for many years, so they don’t believe Snowball would ever do such things. Squealer invents stories out of whole cloth about how Napoleon personally witnessed Snowball sabotaging the farm, and even fought Snowball heroically to protect the animals. That Snowball is certainly a wicked villain!

Similarly, wild theories have been promulgated by Trump and his supporters, such as the “birther” sham that Obama was born in Kenya and is thus ineligible to be president, the “Pizzagate” smear that Hillary Clinton was involved in a child sex ring run out of the basement of a pizza parlor, the elaborate theory that the Democratic National Committee murdered one of its own employees in retaliation for leaking emails, and that the 2012 school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, was a fabricated hoax by Democrats so Obama could take away all the guns in America.

Napoleon’s personal behavior, however, cannot easily be blamed upon Snowball. The animals express concern about Napoleon’s blatant violations of the farm’s resolutions, such as living in the human farmhouse. Squealer assures them, falsely, that Napoleon vehemently believes that all animals are equal. Squealer explains that the animals were misremembering the resolutions, which he fabricates in retrospect. He insists that Napoleon has fully complied with all the farm’s (reverse-engineered) rules.

Hmm. The animals did not quite remember it that way. But the fabrications sink in and become the new normal and the revised collective memory.

Before the Trump era, a modern reader might fault Orwell for exaggerating the degree of lying, or its potency. After all, in the age of mass media, a politician could certainly never get away with such blatant lies. But this sort of egregious lying is now occurring right before our eyes. Shockingly, it turns out that Orwell had it right.

In addition to his own epic lying, Trump deploys an army of Squealers who appear across media outlets to bamboozle the American people. Perhaps most infamous among them is Kellyanne Conway, who claimed that Trump is entitled to present to the public his own “alternative facts,” even though such “facts” can easily be disproved. (Incidentally, Conway’s comment caused a spike in the sales of another famous Orwell book, “1984,” published a few years after “Animal Farm.”)

Falsehoods also emanate from the podium of Trump’s White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, despite the fact that the responsibility of this position is to provide the American people with transparency into the affairs of our highest public official, and in a manner, as the oath of that office requires, “without … purpose of evasion.”

Eerily, Orwell even provided the exact phrasing commonly used by Trump. In one of his 180-degree lies, Squealer insists that “no one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal.” This same formulation is one of Trump’s favorites for his own lies, such as his recent statement that “there’s been nobody tougher on Russia than President Donald Trump” (referring to himself in the third person). Or any one of these: “No one respects women more than me”; “I am the least racist person you’ll ever meet”; “No one reads the Bible more than me”; “Nobody knows more about trade than me” or “There’s nobody that’s done so much for equality as I have.”

Orwell captured even the phrasing of Trump’s lies – more than seven decades ago.

On the farm, all this egregious lying works fairly well. As time goes by, however, the animals again become suspicious. Napoleon conceives of a new idea – to hold a military parade! Yes. All the animals line up in military formation and march around the farm. This helps to stir the passions of patriotic sentiment, distract attention from Napoleon’s failures and glorify the great “Leader.”

This exact same idea was proposed by Trump, who has proposed staging a grand military parade on the streets of Washington.

Napoleon’s leadership is marked by incompetence and chaos. When the farm produces a pile of extra timber, Napoleon repeatedly flip-flops about how best to utilize this resource. He continually contradicts his prior plans, and his proposals will clearly violate cardinal rules of the farm, such as not interacting with humans and not dealing with money.

The incompetence is so extreme as to be comical. The repeated changes in direction signify that Napoleon has no principles or guiding beliefs. Instead, he impulsively leaps in any direction that seems to suit his own interests in the spur of the moment.

This hapless flip-flopping is classic Trump. He rails against China for stealing American jobs, then advocates for America to help save jobs in China. Trump derides NATO as obsolete, then embraces it. He withdraws from the TPP trade agreement, then says he may rejoin it. He opposes military intervention in Syria, then launches missile strikes. Constant chaos, constant contradiction, constant incompetence.

Once Napoleon consolidates power, he stops attending public meetings. He is seldom seen on the farm other than for ceremonial appearances. Just like Napoleon, after winning the election, Trump largely closed himself off from public questioning. Despite the fact that Trump gave many interviews during his campaign, thereby suggesting that he would be a very open president, upon attaining power he closed up like a clam and stopped taking questions from the press via press conferences, interviews or otherwise (except, of course, with the most obsequious media outlets). Trump’s appearances are now largely scripted or mere showpieces.

Just as Squealer lies in blaming others for every problem, Squealer also lies on the flip side by taking credit for every improvement. Squealer cites reams of official statistics falsely claiming that the farm is much improved under Napoleon’s rule, such as better crops, more food, less work and greater happiness — all of which, of course, are untrue. Squealer also takes credit for improvements that were not attributable in any way to Napoleon, such as the joy of being free from human rule, which occurred before Napoleon became the leader.

Claiming credit for everything positive is a hallmark of Trump. Just like Squealer, Trump misrepresents data to bolster his image. And Trump claims credit for improvements that occurred without his involvement, such as the positive jobs report for January 2017 even though he did not take office until Jan. 20 of that year.

Both Napoleon and Trump cultivate loyalty from their constituents and then mercilessly exploit them. A horse on the farm is incredibly strong and is the hardest worker, although he is not very intelligent and thus is susceptible to manipulation. As he nobly toils harder and harder for less and less while Napoleon grows richer and richer, the horse nonetheless frequently repeats in blind obedience, “Napoleon is always right.”

Similarly, Trump portrays himself as the champion of the forgotten blue-collar worker, and he won their votes in several key states. But Trump’s policies favor the wealthy at the expense of the working class by sabotaging the health care system, eroding the social safety net and granting enormous tax cuts for the wealthy, including himself.

Orwell’s purpose in writing “Animal Farm” must surely have been to present the telltale signs of totalitarianism in the clearest and simplest terms, in order to make sure the populace would steer clear of electing any such ruler in the future. It does not seem to have worked.

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US ambassador quits — and just exposed the Trump administration on his way out

the former U.S. ambassador to Panama just likened President Donald Trump to a “velociraptor” who destroys any obstacles in his path.

“In private, he is exactly like he is on TV, except that he doesn’t curse in public,” John D. Feeley told the New Yorker. “He’s like a velociraptor. He has to be boss, and if you don’t show him deference he kills you.”

Former Marine Corps helicopter pilot and career diplomat John D. Feeley announced his resignation from his diplomatic post earlier this year, saying he could no longer serve under the Trump administration. In an op-ed for the Washington Post, titled “Why I Could No Longer Serve This President,” Feeley explained that Trump had “warped and betrayed” what he considered as “the traditional core values of the United States.”

He wrote, “America is undoubtedly less welcome in the world today.”

Discussing the president’s leadership style in a new interview with the New Yorker, Feeley similarly expressed that he was troubled that the country was taking up an attitude that was increasingly detrimental to diplomacy. “If we do that,” he told the New Yorker, “my experience and my worldview is that we will become weaker and less prosperous.”
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Trump demands ‘total transparency’ from Justice Department about FBI informant

President Trump has stepped up his campaign to discredit the Russia probe. He tweeted on Wednesday that elements of the Justice Department are part of the “criminal deep state…caught in a major spy scandal,” after recently demanding an inquiry into whether the FBI illegally infiltrated his 2016 campaign. Judy Woodruff reports House GOP leaders will get a rare, classified briefing on the issue.
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'It's a f---ing circus': Experts are floored that White House officials attended highly classified briefings about the Russia probe

President Donald Trump has upped his attacks on the justice apparatus this week. Associated Press/Evan Vucci

  • National-security experts and legal experts were "gobsmacked" by senior White House officials' attendance Thursday at a classified briefing about the Russia investigation and reports that an FBI informant had talked to the Trump campaign.
  • The White House chief of staff, the White House counsel, three GOP lawmakers, and one Democrat met with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, FBI Director Christopher Wray, and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats to glean more details about the informant and other details of the Russia investigation.
  • One former FBI official described the situation — and President Donald Trump's and his allies' broadsides against the DOJ — as a "f---ing circus."

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The president's chief of staff and the White House counsel attended a classified briefing Thursday with top Justice Department officials and lawmakers about an investigation into the president and his associates — and the events have floored national-security experts and former intelligence officials.
When the White House announced the first of the two briefings earlier this week, it said John Kelly, the chief of staff, would not be attending.
One former FBI official said they were "gobsmacked" when they learned the chief of staff would be present after all.

"This is an investigation centering squarely around the president and his cohorts," said this person, who requested anonymity to speak candidly. "And we've got the president's chief of staff attending a classified briefing — and getting sensitive intelligence — about said investigation. It's a f---ing circus."
When it emerged later that Emmet Flood, the new White House counsel, also attended the briefing, the person added: "This is truly mind-boggling."
Renato Mariotti, a former federal prosecutor in Chicago, expressed a similar view.
"It is completely inappropriate for a lawyer representing a subject of the investigation to attend the congressional oversight meeting in which nonpublic information about the investigation was revealed," he tweeted following the first briefing. "What possible legitimate purpose could his attendance have served?"
The White House said in a statement following the briefings that Kelly and Flood did not attend the meetings but "did make brief remarks before the meetings started to relay the President's desire for as much openness as possible under the law."

John Kelly, the White House chief of staff, attended the first classified briefing on Thursday. Associated Press/Andrew Harnik
The first briefing Thursday included Kelly, Flood, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, FBI Director Christopher Wray, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes and ranking member Adam Schiff, House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, and House Speaker Paul Ryan.
Schiff was invited at the last minute after Democrats slammed Nunes and Gowdy for what they described as a partisan briefing that could be weaponized against the Justice Department and Robert Mueller, the special counsel investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 election and whether members of the Trump campaign colluded with Moscow or attempted to obstruct justice.
The second briefing included Kelly, Rosenstein, Wray, Coats, Nunes, Schiff, and most other members of the so-called Gang of Eight, a bipartisan group consisting of the Republican and Democratic leaders of the intelligence committees and the majority and minority leaders of the House and Senate. Ryan said he would not be able to attend, citing scheduling conflicts.
Tensions between the White House and the DOJ are at a boiling point — and at the eye of the storm are the Russia investigation, Mueller, and an FBI informant said to have talked with members of Trump's team during the 2016 campaign.
The informant was not named in initial news reports, but several media outlets later identified the person as Stefan Halper, a veteran of previous Republican administrations and a former professor emeritus at Cambridge University who was in touch with several members of the Trump campaign.

Reports about the informant last week sparked a flurry of unproven accusations from Trump and his loyalists that the FBI was spying on the Trump campaign. The president subsequently requested that the DOJ investigate the matter.
The DOJ agreed to Thursday's briefings, both of which included details about the informant and the Russia investigation after a back-and-forth with congressional Republicans and the White House over protecting the person's safety.
White House accused of playing politics

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Citing a person familiar with the matter, CNN reported Wednesday that Trump told Kelly he wanted Thursday's briefings to appear nonpartisan, as well as to ensure that Democrats were able to view the classified intelligence so the White House would not look as though it were playing politics.
Trump was reportedly annoyed when it emerged that Democrats were initially barred from the first briefing, because he did not want the revelation to overshadow what he believes to be the bigger picture: a conspiracy against him and his administration by the top ranks of the DOJ and the FBI.
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Here is the real story behind Donald Trump’s infamous ‘witch hunt’ war cry
When Robert Mueller began his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election campaign, Donald Trump proclaimed on Twitter, “This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!” That phrase — “Witch Hunt!” — has been his go-to war cry ever since, bolstered only by his near-meaningless “No collusion!” claim, even as Mueller has racked up indictments, guilty pleas and cooperating witnesses.

This article was originally published at Salon

Trump’s defense is working, to some extent, given that a recent poll found that 59 percent of respondents didn’t believe Mueller has uncovered any crimes so far, notwithstanding all those guilty pleas. Such is the power of a relentlessly repeated narrative over mere facts.

Now we’re about to see what a real witch hunt looks like, as Trump tries to force the Department of Justice to investigate the investigators, looking for imaginary wrongdoing or “infiltration” in what was an entirely normal, non-intrusive FBI method of information-gathering.

This is a classic example of Trump gaslighting, à la “Hillary Clinton started birtherism and I ended it,” trying to convince us that up is down and we’re crazy for thinking otherwise. Only now it’s not just Trump. Increasingly, it’s more and more of the Republican leadership.

It’s not the first such effort, by a long shot, as David Corn recently tweeted:

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With the midterms fast approaching, congressional Republicans seriously falling in line, and the DOJ starting to buckle under pressure, this effort looks much more serious.

It’s fitting that Trump should choose this path, since his mentor, the infamous Roy Cohn, was Sen. Joseph McCarthy’s lead investigator during his witch hunts, which also began based on absolutely nothing — a supposed “list” of 57 “communists” that McCarthy waved in the air, but that actually didn’t exist, as explained by University of Washington professor Joe Janes in an episode of his “Documents that Changed the World” podcast series:
It was on Feb. 9, 1950, that McCarthy — who had dubbed himself “Tailgunner Joe” for acts of World War II bravery he did not in fact commit — told a crowd of 275 at the Ohio County Republican Women’s Club that the U.S. State Department was “thoroughly infested with communists” and brandished papers he claimed were a list of 57 such subversives.
“My primary interest here was as an example of a document that didn’t actually exist, and which still had great impact,” Janes said when discussing the podcast. “So far as we can tell, for all McCarthy’s bluster, his ‘list(s)’ were mainly numbers either taken from other sources or misremembered or just made up. Yet people believed them, and acted as a result of what he said he had.”

McCarthy was a fake war hero, and Donald Trump may well be a fake billionaire (and is definitely a fake business genius). Both presented themselves as persecuted by vast conspiracies, and both excel at smelling blood, and getting others to follow. McCarthy didn’t start the post-World War II red scare that made him famous, he just dialed up the paranoia to 11, much as Trump did with birth-certificate mania during Barack Obama’s first term.

Even though there was no there there, most of the Republican Party went along with McCarthy’s massive commie-hunt. A handful of internal dissenters quickly melted away. So it’s hardly surprising that it’s happening again. Four months after McCarthy’s speech, on June 1, 1950, Sen. Margaret Chase Smith, R-Maine, gave the most memorable speech of her career, denouncing McCarthy’s tactics — but not naming him — and introducing a “Declaration of Conscience,” signed by herself and six other GOP senators.

But when the Korean War broke out later that same month, any chance of them prevailing over McCarthy vanished. Only one — Sen. Wayne Morse of Oregon —remained thoroughly outraged, eventually leaving the Republican Party to become an independent in 1952, and then a Democrat in 1955. Later, Morse would cast one of only two votes against the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution in 1964, which greatly expanded the U.S. military role in Vietnam. There were no one else like him at the time — and there certainly isn’t now.

For the rest of the Republican Party, supporting McCarthy made sense in the short run: The GOP gained a Senate majority in the 1952 election for the first time in 20 years, though it was a short-lived and unstable triumph. Democrats regained their majority two years later — the year McCarthy was finally censured — and won 12 Republican-held seats in the wave election of 1958, beginning another two decades of legislative hegemony. Today’s Republicans are clearly taking a similar political risk by going all-in on Donald Trump. But will they take the whole country down with them?

Connecting Trump to McCarthy is the figure of Roy Cohn. As summarized by Politico last year, their connection was forged in 1973, when Cohn defended the 27-year-old Donald Trump and his father against a federal racial discrimination lawsuit: “Cohn filed a $100-million countersuit against the federal government, deriding the charges as ‘irresponsible’ and ‘baseless.’” In later filings, “Cohn accused the DOJ and the assisting FBI of ‘Gestapo-like tactics.’ He labeled their investigators ‘undercover agents’ and ‘storm troopers.’” Does any of this sound familiar?

There’s more. At one point Cohn reportedly called a senior figure at the DOJ in Washington “and attempted to get him to censure one of the lead staffers” on the Trump investigation. It’s almost uncanny: There’s virtually no move Trump has tried against Robert Mueller that wasn’t prefigured in Cohn’s first outing defending Trump. And Trump got some pretty good licks in himself.

Of course the Trumps finally settled that lawsuit — just as the Justice Department had originally offered. But the younger Trump bristled at any admission of guilt, and was bitter about the advertisements he was forced to place, “including those targeted specifically to minority communities — saying they were an ‘equal housing opportunity’ company.” Then, foreshadowing Trump’s future campaign pledges that “Mexico will pay for the wall,” came this petulant tidbit:
At one point, flouting the formality of the court, Trump addressed one of the opposing attorneys by her first name: “Will you pay for the expense, Donna?”

Not much has changed in more than 40 years. But what about the term “witch hunt,” itself? Last year, the New York Times sketched out a history of its recent usage, noting: “The central paradox of modern witch hunts is that those who claim to be the victims, like Nixon, are often the ones most enthusiastic about carrying them out.”

That’s not actually a paradox at all. It’s a natural consequence of choosing to fight dark feelings—projecting them onto others—rather than facing hard facts. As this overview of the Salem Witch Trials of the 1690s reveals, there were a multitude of complex social and political threats facing the Massachusetts colonists. Salem’s residents were overwhelmed by their situation — against which they were ultimately powerless, since the English crown was ultimately pulling the strings. But they were also overwhelmed by their feelings, and those they could do something about: They could hunt witches, and pour all their fears and frustrations onto the most vulnerable members of their small and isolated society.

Modern America is not like Salem. We may be overwhelmed by both circumstances and feelings, but we are not powerless at all. The choice is ours: We can confront difficult facts and deal with them, or we can retreat into dark emotions, projecting them outwards onto others and tweeting “Witch Hunt!” to the world.
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(the problem here is that drumpf would think you are standing in support his psychotic world and of course this is what all fascist want... you must worship symbols of the nation rahu)

Trump: Those Who Won’t Stand For National Anthem “Shouldn’t be in the Country

In an interview broadcast on Fox and Friends this morning, President Trump suggested that NFL players who refuse to stand for the national anthem “maybe shouldn’t be in the country”.
“I think that’s good. I don’t think people should be staying in the locker rooms, but still I think it’s good. you have to stand proudly for the National Anthem,” Trump said.
You shouldn’t be playing, you shouldn’t be there. Maybe they shouldn’t be in the country,” he added.
Team owners announced yesterday that teams would be fined if players don’t stand or fail to “show respect for the flag.”
The issue represents another big rhetorical win for Trump, who has been able to use the controversy to portray his opponents as anti-American.
“Today’s decision by the @NFL is a win for the fans, a win for @POTUS, and a win for America. Americans can once again come together around what unites us – our flag, our military, and our National Anthem. Thank you NFL. #ProudToStand,” tweeted Vice President Mike Pence.
A survey conducted in January found that 33% of NFL fans boycotted the league last year partly as a result of player protests, a factor which contributed to declining television ratings.
The results of the poll pointed to a more general trend which emerged last year; Americans becoming jaded with identity politics and virtue signalling dominating awards shows, sports and Hollywood.
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Trump’s disturbing demagoguery hits new heights as he becomes character assassin in chief ahead of the midterms
How that the midterm election campaign is finally rolling we will undoubtedly start hearing a whole lot about polls again. Not to worry, Nate Silver at 538 assures us that contrary to popular myth, polling has not fallen apart and is as reliable as it’s ever been — which is to say, fairly reliable. Silver and his crew have done a thorough analysis of the various organizations if you are a polling junkie. The rest of us will do fine by just checking the polling averages at the various websites that aggregate them all.

But one of the difficult things to measure in standard polling is enthusiasm.
Pollsters do ask the question and try to quantify intensity but who knows how people are going to feel months from now, right? So far, the off-year and special elections over the past year have shown a substantial advantage in enthusiasm for the Democrats and they’ve had much greater success at the ballot box than the Republicans. Democratic voters have very intense feelings about Donald Trump and the direction of the country and since midterms are almost always a referendum on the president, that’s probably a good sign for the proverbial “Blue Wave” that everyone is anticipating to crest in November.
But while the Democrats may be galvanized and motivated to take back Congress in order to stop Trump’s legislative agenda and provide the oversight that the Republicans have irresponsibly abdicated in order to cover up their leader’s misdeeds and malfeasance, that’s not the whole story. The GOP is deeply in thrall to Donald Trump, the base voters never waver in their devotion no matter what he’s done. They may just not be as enthusiastic about voting for their own Congressional representative, and that’s where the president comes in.
Trump’s going to hit the campaign trail tough this fall and if his Tennessee rally on Tuesday is an example, he’s taking off the gloves. And if those rally-goers are any example he hasn’t lost his ability to bring them to screaming ecstasy.
Both Politico and the New York Times had stories yesterday about Trump’s campaign plans. Politico headlined theirs, “Trump’s new midterm strategy: Outrage.” They report that Trump will brag about his alleged accomplishments, of course. That goes without saying. But mostly it’s going to be about attacking the media and immigrants, with a focus on the violent street gang MS-13.
There is evidence that Trump’s attacks on the media have already born fruit, via Politico:
GOP campaign strategists say they need to close the intensity gap with Democrats, who are anticipating an anti-Trump wave .Stoking outrage has proven effective. An October POLITICO/Morning Consult poll found that 76 percent of Republicans think the news media fabricate stories about Trump. And a Poynter Institute study last year found that more than 60 percent of respondents who supported Trump believe that the media is the “enemy of the American people.”
The New York Times reported that Trump was going to target red-state Democratic senators specifically with his red-meat message:
In both his own campaign and a series of special elections since, Mr. Trump has been far better equipped to knock down a rival than to lift up an ally. The hope now is that his savage attacks, penchant for mimicry and resourcefulness in nickname creation — recall “Lyin’ Ted” and “Little Marco” — can be turned to devastating effect on the very Senate Democrats who have gone to lengths to avoid publicly breaking with him.
“He’s the definer in chief,” said Rob Collins, who ran the National Republican Senatorial Committee when the party took back the chamber in 2014. “He comes in, defines the opponent in a way that’s unconventional and unorthodox, but it sticks.”

Calling him the “definer in chief” is a nice way to say that he comes up with puerile insults that his followers adore and repeat like parrots.
But unlike the Democrats, Trump himself is not shying away from talking about impeachment. Indeed, he is going out there and saying directly that if Republicans don’t get off the couch and vote the Democrats are going to run him out of office. Normally, a politician would not introduce a subject like that for fear of creating a question in anyone’s mind that there might be some legitimacy to such a move. But that’s where Trump’s strategy of impugning the integrity and patriotism of the Justice Department, the Special Prosecutor, the Intelligence Community and the normal congressional oversight process comes in.

He’s already declaring the whole thing is “rigged,” just as he did during the campaign, and even tweeting that the “13 Angry Democrats” of the Mueller investigation will be “meddling in the midterms.” As I pointed out the other day, Trump’s TV lawyer Rudy Giuliani openly admitted that their legal strategy is to delegitimize the prosecutors among Republican voters in order to taint the jury pool.That’s already working too.
According to a recent CNN poll just 17 percent of Republicans give Mueller a positive approval rating down from 29 percent in March. You’ll recall that the president didn’t mention Mueller’s name or the Special Prosecutor’s office until fairly recently.
If Trump’s Nashville rally on Tuesday was indicative of how he plans to campaign we’re in for some very energetic racial demagoguery. He attacked Jay Z for his “filthy language” (which, coming from the man on the Access Hollywood tape, is rich) and his crowds seem even more aroused by the immigration issue than they were in 2016. You’ll recall that he was criticized recently over a discussion in which he called gang members “animals” in such a slippery way that it was obviously meant as a racist dog-whistle he intended to apply to ordinary undocumented workers as well. Just last week he said of unaccompanied children at the border, “they look so innocent. They’re not innocent.”
This is not entirely new, of course. He said much the same about Syrian refugee children and he has always engaged in the most lurid, bloodthirsty rhetoric about Muslims, undocumented immigrants and inner city gangs. He gets very intense and focused when he’s ranting about “blood-stained killing fields” and people who are “savagely burning, raping, and mutilating” in vivid detail on the stump.
But even his crowd seemed a little bit thrown by where he went with it in Nashville. Others were appalled:
Nonetheless, the crowd all dutifully yelled “animals!” when Trump introduced his sickening new call and response and spoke of our country as if he’s liberated it from an invading hordWhatever is wrong with America he alone can fix it with his “big beautiful hands”:
That’s a very disturbed demagogue who is just letting his id run wild. The question is how many people Trump can inspire to get up off their couches and vote in November with this ugly message. And what will they do if they lose?
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Bernie Sanders to Bill Maher: Donald Trump Likes Authoritarian Leaders, Undermines American Democracy

In an interview with “controversial” host Bill Maher, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders attacked President Donald Trump and said the president’s penchant for authoritarians is something that should worry all Americans.
Sanders says this is one of the many reasons the 2018 midterms are so important.
“It’s the most important because we have a president who is a pathological liar,” Sanders told Maher on Real Time with Bill Maher Friday. “We have a president who has strong authoritarian tendencies, who wants to everyday undermine American democracy.”
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While Maher said politicians have long cried wolf when it comes to the “most important election” in history, he said it really is this time. Sanders concurred, saying it’s time for the people who made this country to come together to stop Trump.
“In my state and all over this country [we] have men and women who have fought and died to defend American democracy and this guy looks all over the world and he kind of likes all of these authoritarian leaders,” Sanders said. “He attacks the media every day, trying to make it harder for them to be critical of him.”

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Sanders said that while people rightly criticize Trump, the Democrats have to have an actual agenda and message this year. “Frankly from a political point of view, it's not good enough to attack trump every single day,” he said. “2016, it's not that Trump won, it’s the Democrats lost.”
He said it’s time to focus on “people who take showers at the end of the day not at the beginning of the day.”
“We're overwhelmed with Trump’s tweets and the absurdity of today,” Sanders added. “We gotta unite, bring our community together to take on the most outrageous president in the history of this country.”
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Friday’s show marked the first time Maher was on the air since he became the focus of conservative outrage following Roseanne Barr’s racist Valerie Jarrett tweet. Barr’s show was canceled by ABC after the comedian compared Jarrett to an ape.
Many conservative commentators went after Maher for Hollywood’s double standard because he has compared Trump an orangutan before. "I'm so old I remember when Bill Maher claimed President Trump's "mother had sex with an orangutan" and kept his job," Jack Posobiec said.
Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders announced his 2016 campaign for president on May 26, 2015. Sanders is a rumored 2020 candidate. Win McNamee/Getty Images

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Trump ‘thinks he is a king’: NYT scorches ‘radical and absolutist’ legal memo

he New York Times has weighed in forcefully on President Trump’s controversial legal memo, in which he argues that he cannot be compelled to testify before a grand jury, prosecuted or charged with obstructing evidence because, as the president, he is the law.

Harry Litman, former United States attorney, scorched Trump’s legal argument as fundamentally at odds with the foundations of this country.

“This understanding of presidential power is radical and absolutist. It is also unsound and almost certain to be sharply rejected should it ever be proffered in court,” the piece says. “No tenable account of executive power holds that a president’s purposes in exercising powers accorded under Article II, “to take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” have no import. If it were otherwise — if the president had the authority to use his constitutional powers for any reason — it would follow that he could accept a bribe for doing an official act, or, more saliently, extend a pardon to keep a witness from testifying. This would very clearly violate the maxim that the president is not above the law.”

The piece then goes on to analyze the three main arguments in the Trump memo—and destroys them all. Read it here.
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Ronald Reagan Would Hate What Trump Is Doing To America, Daughter Says
Ronald Reagan Would Hate What Trump Is Doing To America, Daughter Says

Patti Davis , the daughter of former President Ronald Reagan , imagined what her father would think of current President Donald Trump . And she didn’t hold back. In a letter posted Sunday in The Washington Post to mark Tuesday’s June 5 anniversary of her father’s death, Davis wrote that her dad would have condemned Trump’s abuse of power and incendiary rhetoric.
He would be appalled and heartbroken at a Congress that refuses to stand up to a president who not only seems ignorant of the Constitution but who also attempts at every turn to dismantle and mock our system of checks and balances,” she wrote.
“He would plead with Americans to recognize that the caustic, destructive language emanating from our current president is sullying the dream that America once was,” she added. “And in a time of increased tensions in the world, playing verbal Russian roulette is not leadership, it’s madness.” Davis also scolded Trump for his “verbal violence” when he was a nominee.
Davis, 65, noted in her Washington Post letter that her father didn’t always like the press but he wouldn’t have “relentlessly” cast the media as the enemy. While never mentioning Trump by name, she also took a swipe at his immigration policies. “He believed in laws,” Davis wrote of Reagan. “He hated cruelty.”
Reagan, a conservative Republican who served as the 40th president, died on June 5, 2004, at age 93. Davis’s mother, Nancy Reagan, died on March 6, 2016 at 94.
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Giuliani claims Trump could have shot Comey and still not been indicted for it: report
President Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani has made the controversial claim that Trump could have shot former FBI director James Comey and could not be prosecuted while in office.
The statement was made at the the Huffington Post, which reported it Sunday afternoon.
Trump claims ‘absolute right to PARDON myself’ in latest Twitter rant
President Donald Trump on Monday claimed that he reserved the right to pardon himself should he ever be found guilty of any wrongdoing.
“As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong?” the president asked. “In the meantime, the never ending Witch Hunt, led by 13 very Angry and Conflicted Democrats (& others) continues into the mid-terms!”
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist explains how Trump pardoning himself would make him ‘a dictator
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Douglas Blackmon on Monday explained on Twitter why President Donald Trump’s declaration that he has the “absolute right” to pardon himself of crimes is setting up a fight that could end up giving America’s executive branch dictatorial powers.
“I’ve written for more than a year that RussiaGate would culminate in constitutional crisis over the president’s pardon power,” wrote Blackmon, who won a Pulitzer for his book on the post-Civil War treatment of black Americans called “Slavery by Another Name.” “Contrary to what Donald Trump or any ‘experts’ have said, the Founders and the Supreme Court have been clear for 230 years, no one is above the law.”
Fox News’ Shep Smith brutally fact-checks Trump’s self-pardon claim by reading the Constitution aloud — on live TV
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Trump's Authoritarian Movement Reaches a New Stage

While you were enjoying the second weekend of summer, the president and his allies were waging a sustained campaign to suggest the law does not apply to him. Things kicked off with the (probable) leak of a letter Trump's legal team sent to Special Counsel Robert Mueller, published by The New York Times, in which we learned that Trump essentially has unlimited power and authority-you know, like a king. The letter suggested that:
Trump cannot, by virtue of being president, obstruct justice.
Trump can "terminate the inquiry" into himself and his associates at any time, for any reason.
Trump can pardon himself or his associates at any time, for any reason.
Trump does not need to testify, even if subpoenaed.
Trump cannot be indicted.

Does this sound like the elected president of a democratic republic to you? The key is that his lawyers probably don't even believe some of this, at least as it relates to the Constitution of the United States. Initially, it was part of their efforts to prevent his having to sit for an interview with Mueller, which they became convinced would end in disaster. Now, if indeed it was their leak, it appears to be part of a sustained public relations campaign to get his section of the country rallied behind the idea that the president can do whatever he wants because he is the president.

In fact, it's now a secondary concern whether Trump did indeed do what he's accused of. Rudy Giuliani's interview on This Week with George Stephanopoulos Sunday brought that beyond all doubt, as Giuliani declared that four out of every five Trumpian motives were probably legal:

That's a pretty good percentage for anything-except when it comes to breaking the law. Giuliani also leaned into the idea the president can pardon himself:

And then the real darkness descended, as Giuliani declared in an interview with HuffPostthat the president could have shot then-FBI Director James Comey in the Oval Office and not be prosecuted for it:

“ Giuliani said impeachment was the initial remedy for a president’s illegal behavior―even in the extreme hypothetical case of Trump having shot former FBI Director James Comey to end the Russia investigation rather than just firing him.

“ “If he shot James Comey, he’d be impeached the next day,” Giuliani said. “Impeach him, and then you can do whatever you want to do to him.”

This is a grotesque echo of Trump's campaign declaration that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose any of his supporters. In fact, it depends on the idea that those same supporters will continue backing him as he runs roughshod over the rule of law and insists that there are no limits to his power.

There was also an appearance from "Judge Jeanine" Pirro, who hosted the wife of disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich-whom Trump floated pardoning last week. Everyone seemed to agree that Blago was just misunderstood when he was convicted on 17 counts of corruption for selling a Senate seat:

It's just politics, you can almost hear them saying of whatever Trump is inevitably charged with. Never mind that this is the same guy who said he would Drain the Swamp because he was so rich he couldn't be corrupted. And this festival of excuse-making and rationalizing and groundwork-laying would not be complete without various appearances from the president himself, who proudly announced Monday morning that he can pardon himself whenever he wants-but why would he?

Of course, he answers the question in the same tweet. When Trump is charged and he moves to pardon himself, he will claim the investigation was politicized by the 13 Angry Democrats-never mind that Robert Mueller and the man he reports to, Rod Rosenstein, are both Republicans. The latter was appointed by Trump. You know he will take this line because it is the line Trump and his associates took when he pardoned Dinesh D'Souza last week.

The imperial stage of this presidency has well and truly begun. The president, his legal team, and his outside allies continue to pay lip service to the idea he has done nothing wrong, but their attention has largely shifted to laying the groundwork for his escape from culpability once he is found out. This is the culmination of their sustained efforts to undermine the rule of law and declare Donald Trump to be above it.

The authoritarian movement that this president began during his campaign is approaching its natural conclusion, as Dear Leader runs up against limitations imposed on him by our democracy and declares they do not apply because there can be no limits on his authority. The signs are that his supporters will back him no matter what: He enjoys the support of 87 percent of Republicans, the highest of any president among members of his own party except George W. Bush following 9/11. That support is similarly reflected in the ethno-nationalist fervor of his rallies.

If the president believes he can do as he wishes because he has unlimited authority, and a section of the nation backs him simply because he is the authority, you are dealing with an authoritarian movement that could support a tyrant. The alarm bells should be ringing.

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Trump says he has 'absolute right' to pardon himself, calls special counsel 'unconstitutional
President Donald Trump on Monday declared that he has the authority to pardon himself in any Russia investigation.

This question of pardoning has come up over the past few months as special counsel Robert Mueller and his team continue to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election.

"As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong? In the meantime, the never ending Witch Hunt, led by 13 very Angry and Conflicted Democrats (& others) continues into the mid-terms!" he wrote on Twitter.

At Monday's White House briefing, press secretary Sarah Sanders, when asked repeatedly asked to explain the president's view on pardoning himself, answered repeatedly by saying, "Thankfully, the president hasn’t done anything wrong and wouldn't have any need for a pardon."

"Certainly, no one is above the law," Sanders later added after being asked multiple times if the president himself above the law.

Separately, one White House official provided to ABC News an outline of arguments by scholars that included Stephen Calabresi, the Clayton J. and Henry R. Barber Professor of Law at Northwestern University Pritzker School of Law and Douglas Kmiec, a Pepperdine University professor of constitutional law.

Rudy Giuliani told ABC News chief anchor George Stephanopoulos on Sunday that the president "probably does" have the ability to pardon himself.

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"He has no intention of pardoning himself," said Giuliani, a former mayor of New York City and Trump's lead attorney in negotiating an end to Mueller's ongoing investigation. "[It is a] really interesting constitutional argument: 'Can the president pardon himself?'"

Giuliani added, "I think the political ramifications of that would be tough. Pardoning other people is one thing. Pardoning yourself is another. Other presidents have pardoned people in circumstances like this, both in their administration and sometimes the next president even of a different party will come along and pardon."

Trump also tweeted about the special counsel investigation, saying that it was "unconstitutional."

"The appointment of the Special Councel [sic] is totally UNCONSTITUTIONAL! Despite that, we play the game because I, unlike the Democrats, have done nothing wrong!" he posted.

The argument that Mueller's appointment by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein is unconstitutional has found some traction within conservative media circles. Radio host Mark Levin reasoned late last month that because attorneys on Mueller’s team recently identified themselves in Virginia federal court as "Special Assistant US Attorneys" then Mueller should in turn be classified as a "roving U.S. attorney."

"Rosenstein usurped the authority of the president of the United States to nominate whoever he wants as a prosecutor," Levin said.

Levin said the status of Mueller's team violates the Appointments Clause under the Constitution and publicly urged defendants called on to testify by the special counsel to challenge his authority in court.

Giuliani has previously argued that the special counsel's investigation is "illegitimate." But the president's accusation is the newest escalation in the Trump legal team's effort to discredit Mueller's probe.

Sanders said that "scholars have raised a number of questions about the legality of the special counsel process."
Separately, one White House official provided to ABC News an outline of arguments by scholars that included Stephen Calabresi, the Clayton J. and Henry R. Barber Professor of Law at Northwestern University Pritzker School of Law and Douglas Kmiec, a Pepperdine University professor of constitutional law.

Trump's tweet prompted a backlash from Capitol Hill from Republicans and Democrats concerned about the potential use of the pardon power.

"President Trump has asserted that he has the ‘absolute’ right to pardon himself, and that the appointment of the Special Counsel is ‘unconstitutional.’ He thinks that, because he is the President, his actions cannot be an obstruction of justice," Rep. Jerry Nadler, D-New York, the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, said in a statement. "His lawyers think that he can ignore a subpoena from a federal grand jury, and threaten the Special Counsel accordingly."

“But President Trump is wrong," Nadler said.

Sen. Chuck Grassley, an Iowa Republican, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, told CNN, “If I were POTUS and I had a lawyer tell me I could pardon myself, I think I’d hire a new lawyer.”

"I’m not a constitutional scholar," Sen. Ron Johnson, a Wisconsin Republican, told ABC.

"I haven’t looked at the law," Sen. Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican – who has a law degree – said.

"There are smarter people than me to ask," a GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham from South Carolina – and an Air Force lawyer – said.

"I’m not acting like a judge right now," said Sen. John Cornyn -- a former Texas Supreme Court justice.

Sen. John Kennedy, A Louisiana Republican, said there's only one place for this question to play out.

"Ultimately an issue like that would land in the lap of the United States Supreme Court. Let's hope we don't get there," he said.

While Graham wouldn't say whether he agreed that the president could pardon himself he said Trump shouldn't try.

"Politically, it'd be a terrible idea. Legally, I don't know," he said. "I do know this: One of the limits of the president's authority is politics. And I think the politics would be very bad."

Rudy Giuliani, former mayor of New York, speaks with reporters during the White House Sports and Fitness Day event on the South Lawn of the White House in Washington, D.C., U.S., on Wednesday, May 30, 2018. Photographer: Al Drago/Bloomberg

President Donald Trump said Monday that he has the “absolute right” to pardon himself, a bold assertion that raises the stakes as he and Special CounselRobert Mueller may be headed toward a Supreme Court battle that could test once and for all how much a president is above the law.

“As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong?” Trump wrote on Twitter.

Trump quickly followed up with another tweet challenging Mueller’s legal authority.

“The appointment of the Special Councel is totally UNCONSTITUTIONAL!” Trump wrote, misspelling Mueller’s title. “Despite that, we play the game because I, unlike the Democrats, have done nothing wrong!”

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White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders initially sidestepped questions during a press briefing later Monday on whether the president considered himself above the law, saying Trump “hasn’t done anything wrong.” Pressed for an answer, she said, “Certainly no one is above the law.”

Trump’s declarations come after months of negotiations between Trump’s legal team and Mueller’s prosecutors over a presidential subpoena that have yet to bring them to an agreement over terms of an interview regarding the probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

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Trump’s lawyers have been building a legal argument since late last summer for why Mueller shouldn’t be able to question Trump, the details of which were outlined in a confidential January memoto Mueller that was leaked to the New York Times over the weekend.

The question of Trump pardoning himself has long hovered over Mueller’s probe. The president has charted new ground in issuing pardons outside of the traditional vetting process, including one last month for the late boxer Jack Johnson. He also suggested he may pardon businesswoman Martha Stewart and commute the sentence of former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich.

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No previous president, however, has so boldly asserted that laws and traditions simply don’t apply to him.

Trump’s current lead lawyer, Rudy Giuliani,said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday that the president “probably does” have the legal power to pardon himself for a crime but the act “would be unthinkable.” He added that a self-pardon “would lead to probably an immediate impeachment.”

The legal memo arguing a president couldn’t obstruct justice under the constitution was written before Giuliani joined Trump’s legal team. The former New York mayor said Sunday that he agreed “with about 80 percent” of the memo’s arguments.

Even so, the memo shows Trump’s legal team laying the groundwork to push the limits of presidential power. This approach, which could face its first real test in the coming weeks, could force the kind of constitutional showdown that two past presidents, Richard Nixon andBill Clinton, essentially sidestepped.

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Mueller hasn’t laid out his case publicly, but his team suggested to Trump’s lawyers in March that a subpoena is on the table, according to John Dowd, Trump’s former lawyer.

The January memo pushes a theory, popular with conservative legal theorists, that a president’s power allows him to issue pardons for any reason, end probes into friends and open investigations into enemies, said Harry Sandick, a former prosecutor with the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York and now a white-collar defense lawyer. Under that theory, the only check on that power is impeachment.

“No president has stated it so boldly as this letter states it,” Sandick said in a telephone interview.

Since taking over as Trump’s lead lawyer last month, Giuliani has been laying out a growing list of demands that Mueller must meet before advising his client to sit for questioning. Giuliani has said he hopes to resolve the question around an interview after the president returns from his June 12 summit with North Korea.

If Trump refuses to sit for questioning or Mueller feels the two sides are at a stalemate, Mueller could issue a subpoena for Trump to appear before a grand jury where he would be under oath and not have his lawyers by his side. If he refused to comply with the order, it would be up to the courts to determine if a president can be compelled to testify in a criminal investigation. Given the legal ambiguity in current law around presidential privilege, the challenge could go to the Supreme Court, legal experts have said.

In the January letter to Mueller, Trump’s lawyers appears to be laying out an opening strategy in which they took a hard line approach toward doing an interview with Mueller, said Solomon Wisenberg, who served as deputy independent counsel investigating Clinton in the 1990s.

"It’s the way any negotiation would work," he said.

But the lawyers have shown little indication they are moving from that initial position.

Focused largely on Trump’s firing of James Comey as director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and its impact on the probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, the memo takes a sweeping view of the president’s constitutional authority as the nation’s chief law enforcement officer.

“The president cannot obstruct himself or subordinates acting on his behalf by simply exercising these inherent constitutional powers,” Dowd and Jay Sekulow wrote in the letter.

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The letter is "pretty extraordinary" in that it states an action that would otherwise be illegal isn’t illegal when a president does it, former Manhattan federal prosecutor Mimi Rocahsaid.

"If he and his lawyers persist with these types of arguments, it will end up being decided in the courts over a subpoena to testify or in Congress where impeachment, if nothing else, must place some limits on abuses of presidential powers," Rocah said.

‘Prepare the Public’

Although the two sides have been negotiating an interview since the start of the year, no agreement has been reached and Wisenberg said he believes the letter has now been leaked by Trump’s side “to prepare the public for what’s going to may well be a battle over executive privilege.”

Events since January have shaped the negotiations and Trump’s approach toward Mueller, including the legal case against Trump’s personal lawyer, Michael Cohen. The FBI raided Cohen’s office and personal properties in April.

“The attacks on Mueller have grown in volume and frequency exponentially since the Cohen raid," said Wisenberg, who is now a partner at the law firm Nelson Mullins Riley & Scarborough LLP.

Both sides would be taking a gamble if Mueller decides to subpoena Trump, Wisenberg said.

“A lot of people just assume that it’s going to be a slam dunk for Mueller. I just don’t think it necessarily is," Wisenberg said. “Nobody knows for sure what’s going to happen."

It isn’t clear, for example, if Mueller has the legal authority to challenge executive privilege because he’s operating under a Justice Department regulation that doesn’t explicitly give him such power, Wisenberg said.

During the Clinton investigation, Wisenberg and his boss, Kenneth Starr, obtained a subpoena to compel the president to testify. In response, Clinton backed down from a legal fight and agreed to a voluntary interview.

Clinton didn’t answer all of their questions and they had a second subpoena ready to go but ultimately didn’t use it, Wisenberg said. The legal battle essentially ended with both sides claiming some success.

Other legal scholars, however, view the January letter as being based on flimsy and inadequate legal arguments.

"On this fundamental issue of this immunity, then, the president’s lawyers have not put forward a convincing case, nor even seemed inclined to make much of an effort to do so," Robert Bauer, former White House counsel to PresidentBarack Obama, wrote Sunday on the Lawfare blog.

"The response of Congress and the courts will determine not only Donald Trump’s political future, but also the shape of things to come long after he is gone," he wrote.

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Trump is the new Hitler and the US is a Fascist state

By Ian Greenhalgh on February 3, 2017

Trump is the new Hitler – a figurehead with a good line in charismatic public speaking, some populist rhetoric and a penchant for mistreating women. The similarities don’t end there however and the key one to draw is that both lead their countries into becoming fascist police states – already, after a couple of weeks in office Trump has threatened to crush peaceful protesters with tanks and has enacted new legislation that violates basic human rights.
Trump and Hitler were both elected into power, Hitler then used a false flag (the burning of the Reichstag) to suspend the constitution and impose a single party totalitarian dictatorship. Many are expecting a major false flag on the 9-11 scale or worse, to occur in the near future in order to empower Trump’s nefarious agenda, probably to give cassus belli for yet another war.
Already we are seeing Trump return to the Bush-era policy of using the US military as mercenaries to fight the battles of ‘allies’ like Saudi Arabia and Israel, a suitable false flag would enable Trump to repeat the Bush-era military adventurism and by suitable
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Trump to Pardon Himself, I Don’t Know Whether to Laugh or Cry

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

The legal precedent for Trump’s claim may well come from international law. There is tons of wiggle room there and “the world” has no constitution or written laws.Might makes right, stupid is as stupid does, perhaps those catch phrases explain international law.I think so.

Trump is willing to admit he conspired with a foreign government to overthrow the US and then use the power of the presidency, though in no way stipulated in any constitution we have found, to pardon himself.

This is the crime, treason. But it gets funnier and treason has been a joke in Washington for years, Trump just joined the queue.

Supposedly, Russia bought or blackmailed Trump so that he would get into office, bomb Syria and move the US embassy to occupied Palestine in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention.


It gets better. The “power of the president” to “pardon himself,” is, according to Trump, conferred to a president even if he steals the office as part of a criminal act against the US.

This certainly blocks impeachment.

Let’s apply this same principle to street crime. You steal something, a car, a candy bar or a political office.The pigs come to bust you.“Hey man, I got it fair and square, and the MF is mine.”

Works for me even without Johnny Cochrane.

As for penalties, I suggest we get real with DC. This is a foreign nation, Russia or more likely, as prettymuch everyone including Mueller knows too well, Israel.

Rigging an election is an act of war. Helping them, and it isn’t just Trump, thousands knowingly helped rig this election, and they all have to face the music.

The punishment is, well, what does the constitution say?

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

In fact, nobody really knows what this means. James Madison look at this and went bananas, writing in Federalist 43, saw the use of the term “treason” as a way of “violent factions” using the law against one another.

Without getting too deep here, the constitution is dependent on an independent judiciary to oversee enforcement of “enumerated powers,” assuming, of course, that election stealing politicians who appoint and confirm members of the judiciary are going to be brought to justice by their own toadies.

I contend that Trump, should he pardon himself, should confess, to something at least, just to clear the air. He was right in calling Washington a swamp.However, compared to most state capitols, or press rooms or boardrooms across the nation and world, the exceedingly low standard sought and seldom achieved in Washington circles, our DC swamp dwellers are “small potatoes.”

It’s clear, we are in a “burn it all down” and DO NOT START AGAIN mode.

Nobody wants America back. Since November 22, long ago, when the curtain was pulled, it has all be total **** since.

Those of us alive and awake then have always known it

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Trump is now 10-for-10 on the ‘your president might be a dictator’ checklist

President Donald Trump this week claimed the “absolute right” to pardon himself, but he has been steadily consolidating power ever since his surprise election.

International relations expert Stephen Walt compiled a checklist, “10 Ways to Tell if Your President Is a Dictator,” published by Foreign Policy shortly after the 2016 election — and Trump has already accomplished many of those warnings.

1. Systematic efforts to intimidate the media. The president’s near-daily attacks on the free press have perhaps been the defining feature of his administration, and his White House press secretaries have frustrated and horrified journalists with their brazen dishonesty on verifiable truths. He reportedly admitted that his attacks were intended to undermine media credibility to gather power. “You know why I do it?” Trump reportedly told “60 Minutes” correspondent Leslie Stahl. “I do it to discredit you all and demean you all so that when you write negative stories about me no one will believe you.”

2. Building an official pro-Trump media network. There’s been a lot of speculation that his long-shot campaign was actually just a publicity stunt to start up a Trump TV network — but since his election Fox News has served the same function. Sean Hannity and other Fox personalities push wild conspiracy theories to undercut law enforcement agencies investigating the president and his associates, and Trump engages in a daily feedback loop with “Fox & Friends.” The conservative network has always been solidly in the bag for the Republican Party, but it functions essentially as state TV in the Trump administration.

3. Politicizing the civil service, military, National Guard, or the domestic security agencies. Trump’s attacks on the FBI and intelligence agencies have eroded public trust in them, and his administration has purged “Obama holdovers” in many federal agencies and replaced them with campaign staffers and other Trump loyalists — if the positions are staffed at all in a hollowed-out government. Trump has politicized the military by appointing retired and active-duty generals to serve in the White House, using troops as props for political rallies and proposing a grand parade through Washington, D.C., and attacked his predecessors for their calls to families who lost loved ones in service.

4. Using government surveillance against domestic political opponents. The president has directed the Justice Department to reopen the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails, and a bipartisan congressional majority voted to expand Trump’s surveillance powers. But the president has thus far preferred to use private means to intimidate his enemies. Trump aides hired the Israeli private intelligence agency Black Cube to orchestrate a “dirty ops” campaign against Obama officials who helped negotiate the Iran nuclear deal, and the hosts of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” claimed Trump tried to use the friendly National Enquirer tabloid to blackmail them into more positive coverage.

5. Using state power to reward corporate backers and punish opponents. There are almost too many examples to mention, but two of the most glaring abuses of state power have been Trump’s threats against Amazon — owned by Jeff Bezos, who also owns the Washington Post — and son-in-law Jared Kushner’s attempts to trade foreign policy for a bailout of his money pit at 666 Fifth Avenue.

6. Stacking the Supreme Court. Trump got to pick a seat that constitutionally belonged to President Barack Obama, thanks to mendacious machinations by Mitch McConnell, the GOP Senate majority leader — somehow an underrated scandal. The president is also reportedly sending signals about retirement to Justice Anthony Kennedy through their shared family connections.

7. Enforcing the law for only one side. Trump has called for the prosecution of political rivals like Clinton and fired FBI director James Comey, while insisting he and his associates are above the law as special counsel Robert Mueller closes in. He even says Democrats should be held accountable for his decision to separate migrant families at the border. The president has enlisted GOP allies like Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) to interfere in the congressional probe of his campaign ties to Russia, and he’s ordered Justice Department loyalists to give his legal team what amounts to a sneak peek at the evidence gathered against him.

8. Really rigging the system. Trump infamously warned the 2016 vote was “rigged” against him before the election, and he has baselessly claimed that “millions” of illegal votes were cast in favor of Clinton. After the election, he set up a voter fraud commission, overseen by the notoriously anti-immigrant Kris Kobach, that critics said was intended to suppress non-white voters, and which he eventually disbanded in a flood of legal controversy. The president has rejected the findings of intelligence and law enforcement agencies that Russia interfered in the election, and has done virtually nothing to limit foreign interference in future elections and made cuts to U.S. cybersecurity — which experts warn will invite more meddling.

9. Fearmongering. Trump ran on a campaign of fear, with dark warnings about undocumented immigrants, inner-city gun violence and terrorists, and his inauguration theme was “American carnage.” As president, he has compared young immigrants in the U.S. under DACA and the Dreamers to MS-13 gang members, and urged rally crowds to join him in denouncing migrants and refugees as “animals.”

10. Demonizing the opposition. The president has accused Democrats of “sticking up for MS-13” and questioned the patriotism — and citizenship — of NFL players protesting racism, after praising his neo-Nazi supporters as “very fine people” following a violent rally in Charlottesville. He has accused law enforcement and other government agents investigating his ties to Russia as “deep state” conspirators engaged in a partisan “witch hunt,” and he regularly stokes anger at the media as the “enemy.”

When you add it all up using those metrics, Trump is well on his way to becoming a dictator — if he’s not one already.

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CNN’s Lemon: Trump Is ‘Demanding Forced Patriotism’ Like An ‘Autocrat’

Accuses POTUS of “stomping all over the values we hold dear as Americans”
Steve Watson
June 6, 2018
CNN’s Don Lemon continued his obsession with President Trump, devoting a section of his nightly broadcast to claim that Trump is “demanding forced patriotism” on Americans, like a dictator would.
Lemon addressed the furore surrounding Trump’s decision to withdraw an invitation to the Philadelphia Eagles to attend the White House after several members of the team said they had no intention of attending.

Lemon argued that because no Eagles players took a knee for the national anthem, it is Trump who is being disrespectful.
“Facts matter. So, here are the facts. Not one single Eagles’ player took a knee during the regular season. Not one. Not one single Eagles player stayed in the locker room during the anthem. Not one. Who is being disrespectful here?” Lemon posited.
“Who is stomping all over the values we hold dear as Americans? The values, the freedoms that Americans have fought and died for. You know who is doing that? It’s the person who’s lying to you about the Eagles’ players.” the CNN host continued.
“The person whose lied to you well over 3,000 time in the past 501 days. The person who is demanding forced patriotism just as autocrats have done for centuries. That’s none other than Donald J. Trump, the president of the United States.” Lemon spewed.
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The View’s Meghan McCain admits Trump is acting like a ‘dictator’ — but she doesn’t really care
The View” co-host Meghan McCain admitted President Donald Trump was acting like a “dictator,” but she blamed Democrats for failing to come up with a message strong enough to stop him.

McCain and co-host Joy Behar sparred over this week’s “Time” magazine, which shows the president seeing himself as a king in a mirror — but they didn’t exactly disagree over the illustration’s premise.

“Don’t delude yourself how popular he is,” McCain said. “He’s very popular, his base of support has never been stronger, and that ‘Time’ magazine cover moves the needle absolutely no place.”

Behar said the cover illustration was accurate, particularly after the president repeatedly insisted this week that he has the “absolute right” to pardon himself in an effort to end the special counsel investigation.

“It’s true,” Behar said. “He’s acting like a king, and you know it.”

McCain didn’t dispute the underlying point, but she wasn’t all that concerned.

“I made the argument he acts like a dictator,” McCain said.

The conservative panelist said she wasn’t as worried and upset as her colleagues because the abuses illustrated by the cover hadn’t yet cut into Trump’s base.

“I’m not as riled up at this table about this cover,” McCain said. “It’s not moving the needle of your argument, why you think he’s a dictator. It is not resonating — it isn’t.”

Behar said Trump supporters in red states probably didn’t read “Time” anyway, and McCain mocked her concerns and blamed Democrats for not coming up with a message to attract the GOP base.

“If you’re this scared, if you’re up all night and can’t sleep, you’re up all night,” McCain said, “and we’re in the seventh circle of hell under the Trump presidency, if I were a Democrat right now, I would be coming up with different ways to start communicating with the middle of the country, which as far as I can see, you are not.”

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Trump’sTrump’s relentless lies demand we make truth-telling great again relentless lies demand we make truth-telling great again

All administrations and governments lie at times, but under Trump, lying has become normalized, a calling card for corruption and lawlessness that provides the foundation for authoritarianism.

S. President Donald Trump is a serial liar who appears to exult, if not take pride, in every petty deceit, particularly if it casts him into the glare of publicity.

With Trump preparing to meet with North Korea’s Kim Jong Un in Singapore in a highly anticipated summit this week, it’s worth a reminder: Not unlike Kim, Trump lies to hide the brutality of his cruel policies. He lies to discredit reliable sources of information and to discredit those public institutions that educate a public to create informed citizens who are able to distinguish between the truth and falsehoods.

He will lie about the summit. He can’t help himself.

The Washington Post reports that in his first 466 days in office, Trump has made more than “3,001 false or misleading statements,” averaging “about nine claims a day.”

Trump has lied, along with a tsunami of other fabrications, about former president Barack Obama’s birthplace, he’s made false claims about why he did not win the popular vote, he’s stated he knew nothing about payments prior to his election to the **** star Stormy Daniels, and he’s wrongly declared that the U.S. is the highest taxed nation in the world.

He has falsely claimed 72 times that he passed the biggest tax cut in history; incorrectly states that he has eliminated Obamacare; and fallaciously argues that the Democrats were responsible for eliminating DACA (the Deferred Action for Child arrivals that he terminated).Most recently, the New York Times reported that Trump’s lawyers have admitted that the president drafted a misleading statement about a meeting his son had with a lawyer associated with the Kremlin in Trump Tower, though for months he denied it.

‘The truth is dangerous’
In Trump’s Orwellian world, the truth is dangerous, thinking is a liability, and the sanctity of free speech is treated with disdain, if not the threat of censorship.

Trump uses an endless stream of tweets in which the truth is distorted for ideological, political or commercial reasons. Under the Trump administration, lying and the spectacle of fakery have become an industry and tool of power.

All administrations and governments lie at times, but under Trump, lying has become normalized, a calling card for corruption and lawlessness that provides the foundation for authoritarianism.

As in any dictatorship, the Trump regime dismisses words, concepts and news sources that address crucial social problems such as climate change, police violence and corporate malfeasance.

In Trump’s dystopian world, words such as a “nation of immigrants,” “transgender,” “fetus,” “diversity,” “entitlement,” “climate change,” “democratic,” “peaceful,” “just” and “vulnerable” disappear into a “memory hole.” Under the Trump regime, language has become a political tool and operates in the service of violence, unchecked power and lawlessness.

For Trump, lying has become a toxic policy for legitimizing ignorance and civic illiteracy. Not only does he relish lying repeatedly, he has also attacked the critical media, claimed journalists are enemies of the American people and argued that the media is the opposition party. His rallying cry, “fake news,” is used to dismiss any critic or criticism of his policies, however misleading, wrong or dangerous they are.

Facts are erased

There is more at stake here than the threat of censorship, there is also an attack on traditional sources of information and the public spheres that produce them. Trump’s government has become a powerful disimagination and distraction machine in which the distinction between fact and fiction, reality and fantasy are erased.

Under Trump, language operates in the service of civic violence because it infantilizes and depoliticizes the wider public, creating what Austrian neurologist and psychiatrist Viktor Frankl has called, in a different context, “the mask of nihilism.”

Trump’s attacks on any criticism of his policies and the truth go far beyond the public deploying of personal insults. In the case of his attack on the FBI and Department of Justice, his penchant for relentless lying constitutes both a possible obstruction of justice and an egregious attempt to discredit criticism and corrode democracy.
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Trump tells Fox News he wants Americans to obey him like North Koreans obey Kim Jong-un

resident Donald Trump on Friday told Fox News that he wants American citizens to show him the same reverence that North Koreans show leader Kim Jong-un.

During a surprise interview with “Fox & Friends” on Friday, Trump said he was impressed by the respect that Kim commanded from his people.

He’s the head of the country — and he’s the strong head, don’t let anyone think anything different,” Trump said during the interview. “He speaks and his people sit up in attention. I want my people to do the same.”

Kim Jong-un runs a totalitarian dictatorship in which people face imprisonment or execution if they criticize him. According to human rights watchdog Amnesty International, North Korea has imprisoned an estimated 120,000 people based on political grounds across four separate camps dedicated to imprisoning political dissidents.

The organization further says that people living in these camps are “subjected to forced labor as well as torture and other ill-treatment.”

Despite this, the president has praised Kim for being a “very tough” leader who “loves” the people of his country.

When asked by Doocy why he was heaping praise upon Kim despite his country’s atrocious human rights record, Trump replied, “I don’t want to see a nuclear weapon destroy you and your family.”

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Who Do Dictators Murder First?

How do dictators like Kim, Hitler, Stalin or Mao increase or maintain their power, while eliminating dissent, over their people?

Dictators Maintain Control Through Fear
Psychologists and sociologists who study totalitarianism say dictators are able to spread fear among their people, often through false flags and place themselves as their only salvation. In short, they are experts at manufacturing an external threat. Hitler was the master of this as he presented the Jews as the major threat to Germany and of course, who could forget the infamous Reichstag fire?. This helps keep a society off balance and collectively paranoid as well.

False flag events become an important part of a dictator’s strategy as we witnessed on 9/11.
The manufactured 9/11 event psychologically placed America in a position to trade liberty for perceived security. What we did after 9/11 was to sew the seeds of our own destruction through the establishment of a police state surveillance grid in which the clandestine apparatus of the government watches everything you do, as managed by the Deep State.
The creation of the MIAC report was a fear-mongering tactic. It shifted America’s fear of anything from the Middle East to the newly invented “domestic terrorist”. And according to DHS, which was molded after the East German Stasi, the new domestic terrorist possessed traits, which were coincidentally identical to anyone who might oppose a totalitarian regime. According to the MIAC Report, if you were a member of the following, you were domestic terrorist: (1) Ron Paul supporter;(2) A constitutionalist (3) A Christian (4) A Supporter of the 2nd Amendment. Do you I need to go further? The MIAC further identified terrorist was pictured in DHS target practice sheet.

The MIAC report answered the question on who gets taken to the FEMA camp first to a large extent.
The Globalists Are Taking Out the Eyes and Ears of the People

The globalists rightfully blame the Independent Media (IM) for getting Trump elected and delaying their takeover of the country. Now the social media giants of Facebook, YouTube and Twitter are dismantling the IM one broadcaster, one writer, one activist at a time. Trump gave the country a chance to become a nation of activists and instead we are a nation of slacktivists. Google is the biggest threat to the Republic in existence because the are limiting so much of the free flow of information. This is a classic totalitarian strategy.
With the ongoing take down of the IM (e.g. Alex Jones, Paul Watson, Lisa Haven and myself to name a few), the Rip Van Winkles’ of this country will nobody to awaken them from their slumber for the final battle. Within 6-12 months, the eyes and ears of the people will likely be all but gone. The people will never know what hit them and they certainly will not have a centralized rallying point from which to organize against this planned and final takeover.
Some have asked me why don’t the globalists just takeover right now all at once? The main answer to that question is that the globalists are to busy plundering the resources and the labor of the people, that is not cost-effective to stop at the present moment. When the last bit of blood has been squeezed from the last turnip, the end will come swiftly.
According to psychologist Alice LoCicero, a leading researcher on leadership and terrorism, dictators come in all sizes but basically, genocidal dictators rule with the practical tools of promoting fear and controlling of information.
According to Jerrold Post, director of the political psychology program at George Washington University,
Post has studied the hyper-control methods used to upend the existing order of a nation and the subsequent “Arab spring” revolts swept away despots in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and some of the Gulf states,exemplify this principle. Some wonder I am so concerned about social media’s extreme censorship. I am because these Arab Spring revolts that were encouraged in large part by information spread by cell phones and most of by censored and controlled social media.
“Controlling information and controlling dissent are part of what goes into maintaining a totalitarian state.”
If you are a spreader of truth through dissent, you have a Deep State bullseye on your back.
Why Don’t People Just Revolt?

Many people have asked me that same question posed in the subtitle. Post stated the following in response to that question:
“We’re talking about heavy penetration of internal security, Any manifestation of disloyalty or dissent is brutally punished.”
This is exactly what the NSA-controlled police state surveillance grid is accomplishing as it represents a high tech and heavy penetration of security. Virtually, everything that you do is monitored. Soon, you will find out why.
Understanding the Independent Media’s Opposition to Hillary Clinton

All of the aforementioned experts discussed in this article, spoke about certain personality disorders of being characteristics of a leader capable of committing genocide on his people. The related personality traits of a genocidal dictator consist of the “big six six’ which consists of sadistic, paranoid, antisocial, narcissistic, schizoid and schizotypal. Hitler, Stalin and Mao all had the big six and so does Hillary Clinton. In fact, when it comes to concentration camps, who can forget when Hillary tipped her hand when she stated that Americans needed to be sent to fun camps which were re-education camps.

Hillary Clinton has the solution for people who are so uptight that they actually think that conspiracies are real. Clinton actually had the audacity to to declare that Americans needed to go to Fun Camps (i.e. FEMA camps).
From the Daily Caller:
In these camps, Clinton wants Americans to really concentrate on the important things. “We need some reminder about life skills from time to time, maybe some enrichment, certainly some time outdoors.”
Please note that “joycamp” was the Newspeak term for forced labor camps in George Orwell’s 1984.
Who Do the Dictators Kill First?

The people that are killed first by dictators are the purveyors of the free flow of information. This is why we should all be concerned about the antics of social media. Just this morning , YouTube banned my video in which I described the fact that Paris Hilton was selling her father’s mansion, valued at $38 million, and Hilton was only going to accept bitcoin. This is a direct threat to the globalist organization we call the Federal Reserve and Google owned YouTube has pledged their allegiance to the banker’s plan to take over the world. Hence, the ban over this innocuous story.
History speaks clearly about controlling information from a dictator’s perspective. Take the historical precedent in which Hitler gained total control of the media of his day.
Carl Severing, who in the early 1930’s was Minister of the Interior in Weimar Germany; Fascists often disparage real journalism in order to hoodwink a credulous public. His was the period when Hitler was rapidly consolidating power, and while Severing was not a Nazi, his right wing policies helped pave the way for Hitler’s takeover, in 1933. Severing cracked down on the free press; one of his more famous dictums was, “Press freedom has become press license. We cannot permit demagogues to inflame the masses any further.”
This last quote was the beginning of the fake news paradigm to control news and information that we see today.
To answer the question, who do dictators kill first? Generally, they follow this stereotype:
  1. Political opposition. In today’s world, think the MIAC Report.
  2. Those that help them obtain power because they fear the inevitable counter-revolution. Deep State puppets better beware.
  3. The public opposition. Today, that would be the Independent Media.
  4. Teachers and professors because they can convey the culture.
  5. Christians because the religion promotes freedom of choice.
  6. Anyone that the state-sponsored snitches turn in. Today, NSA surveillance takes the place of most secret police.
The following is a summary of who gets taken.


In April of 2016, Clinton signaled her intention to institute FEMA camps designed for people that needed to “relax”. IF we we elect a Democrat in 2020 Clinton, prognostication will become reality.
In the next installment of this series, you will surprised to learn who will be working the FEMA camps and how the camps will be run.

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Comparisons between US immigration policy and the Nazi period may not be helpful — but they are hard to avoid

The renowned Holocaust historian Deborah Lipstadt recently rejected comparisons between the Holocaust and the Trump administration’s separation of families at the southern border of the United States. “Equating the two,” she wrote in the Atlantic Monthly, “is not only historically wrong, it is also strategically wrong.”
Lipstadt argues that it is historically wrong because of the difference between mass killing and the separation of children from parents deemed illegal immigrants to the US. And it is strategically wrong, she believes, because it allows the policy’s defenders to dismiss criticisms as hyperbolic frenzy:
Glib comparisons to the Nazis provide the administration and its supporters with a chance to defend their position, something they do not deserve.
I agree with Lipstadt on the unhelpfulness of crude comparison – but based on my own recent experiences of Holocaust remembrance at the heart of American public space it is clear to me that this cannot be the end of the discussion.
Lipstadt’s article includes an argument about the specifics of Nazi policy based on a photograph included in the main exhibition of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington DC. Taken by an SS officer, it is of Jewish deportees arriving at Birkenau camp, including a young women and an older woman and child. One of the people in the photograph survived the Holocaust and has since testified that she was the younger woman and the baby was hers. Her mother had taken it because they knew that had she claimed the baby, she and the infant would both have been sent to the death chamber. This reminds us that the Nazi policy was not separation but extermination.

By coincidence, the day The Atlantic published her article was the end of a week-long seminar I participated in at the museum with 20 other academics, and it was an event relevant to this story in ways that significantly complicate its conclusions.
On a formal level, it just happens that a key text that we were asked to read in advance of the seminar, Michael Rothberg’s Multidirectional Memory, includes in its introduction an argument against Lipstadt articulating very similar views about historical comparison in the 1990s. Rothberg’s worry was that Lipstadt’s protestations risked upholding a memory competition that “overrides other possibilities for thinking about the relation between different histories”.
But far more strikingly, we spent much of the week grappling with our group’s experience of walking through the Holocaust exhibitions surrounded by high school students wearing red “Make America Great Again” baseball caps.

One academic participant even got into a tense confrontation with a member of the public in the new Americans and the Holocaust exhibition over the precise question of comparisons with the Trump administration.
Questioning history
Walking around the Holocaust Memorial Museum – a building deliberately positioned to dialogue with the central monuments and architecture of American democracy – any attempt to avoid comparisons between the Nazi period and recent events at the Mexico border would have involved a herculean effort at compartmentalisation. One of my most vivid memories is of standing in the Hall of Witness among numerous children wearing MAGA caps under a banner that read: “This museum is not an answer. It is a question.”
Lipstadt is right that careless and hyperbolic comparisons are unhelpful – but it is the task of scholars to communicate and debate the complexity of entanglements between past and present. Events at the southern border are not an extermination – but they are driven by public opinion and policy decisions with clear parallels to other Nazi-era events that the museum highlights with unerring precision.

In the Americans and the Holocaust exhibition there are sharp and sustained criticisms of refugee policy during the era. One especially remarkable display records opinion polling in the US from November 1938, which logged 94% disapproval of German treatment of Jews combined with 71% disapproval of allowing more Jews into the United States. At the heart of this disparity is a sentiment that resonates with the contemporary determination that, as Trump put it: “The United States will not be a migrant camp.”

Having now returned to the UK, these resonances transfer to my own national context with undimmed power to ask questions of how we navigate relationships between the 1930s and the present. Directly influenced by the museum in Washington DC, Britain is currently planning to build its own Holocaust memorial and learning centre at the heart of governmental space in Victoria Tower Gardens next to the Houses of Parliament.

Due for completion in 2021, the original commission document that proposed the site remarked that:In debating the more challenging elements of Britain’s history – such as the refusal to accept more refugees or the questions over whether more could have been done to disrupt the Final Solution – Britain reflects on its responsibilities in the world today.
But this remark was relatively fleeting. More prominent were comforting assertions such as: “Britain remembers the way it proudly stood up to Hitler” – and, in the most recent government announcement of the memorial and learning centre’s design, any explicit mention of refugee policy has been dropped. The online press release’s only mention of migration is a generic link at the bottom of the page to“Visasand immigration”, offering a reminder of Theresa May’s vision that: “The aim is to create, here in Britain, a really hostile environment for illegal immigrants.”
When it comes to an event as ultimately extreme and emotive as the Holocaust, we should of course be wary of blunt and counterproductive comparisons. In this regard Lipstadt’s article offers a powerful corrective. But this is not the end of our task.
It is the task of historians to draw parallels, however uncomfortable. Nazism didn’t immediately descend into fully fledged terror in the Germany of the 1930s, it came in a series of legal and policy shifts. There were those, in Germany as well as in rest of the watching world – who strongly objected from the start to the laws that took away Jewish rights and protections and continued to oppose Hitler and his supporters as the nightmare unfolded. But there were also many people in whom Nazi rhetoric found all-too fertile ground.

The ConversationA similar dynamic is in operation today. The gradual “othering” of migrants to the US – and, indeed, of refugees in Europe and elsewhere – has the same feeling of an incremental downward spiral in the public’s humanity, and it is here that historians have a duty to draw comparisons rather than simply seeking to police the border between historical events.
By David Tollerton, Lecturer in Jewish Studies and Contemporary
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This president wants to be king’: CNN panel torches Trump’s dictatorial ambitions on immigration policy

CNN panel on Monday attacked President Donald Trump for simply wanting to rule America by decree instead of through legislation enacted by Congress.

During the discussion, panelist John Avlon said that Trump was clearly frustrated that he can’t just override Congress and the courts by ousting all undocumented immigrants from the country without due process.

“This issue is not playing the way the president would like,” he said. “He can’t make it disappear. This is a fundamental conflict between our values and policies, and when people see children crying and screaming, separated from their parents and put in cages without any receipts… that violates them.”

Fellow panelist Brian Karem shared Avlon’s view, and he said it reflected Trump’s fundamental misunderstanding about how democracy is supposed to work.

“This president wants to be King Donald Trump, not President Donald Trump,” he said. “And he really doesn’t care too much about how the constitutional separation of powers takes place. He wants to be able to have an edict and go forward, and it doesn’t work that way.”

Watch the video below.

Sarah Sanders defends Trump’s fascism: ‘Just because you don’t see a judge doesn’t mean you don’t get due process’

White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders asserted on Monday that undocumented immigrants could receive “due process” even if they are deported without seeing an immigration judge.

During Monday’s White House press briefing, Sanders was asked about President Donald Trump’s Sunday rant on Twitter that called for immigrants to be deported without “judges” or “court cases.”
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