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Unread 10-04-2011, 03:29 AM
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I've been exposed to astrology but I'm totally new to how it works. I'm curious of the methodology everyone here uses to interpret a chart. Is it an intuitive process, like the way someone tries to interpret poetry or a painting? Or is there some objective reality that one is trying to understand from charts? Is there a science or reasoning behind why certain positions, planets, houses mean something? Is it a little bit arbitrary or is there some kind of inductive reasoning involved (ie the vast majority of people with this astrological ascent behave a certain way, therefore this certain astrological ascent means that you will probably behave this way). I want to know if there is just some sort of innate talent that just make one person better at reading charts than the other (like music or sports), or if reading ability is strongly an acquired skill that takes practice and can be mastered with patience


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Or is it a secret art that only a select few can learn and pass down after a strenuous obstacle course and challenge of wits?
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Unread 10-05-2011, 02:03 AM
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I've been exposed to astrology but I'm totally new to how it works. I'm curious of the methodology everyone here uses to interpret a chart. Is it an intuitive process, like the way someone tries to interpret poetry or a painting? Or is there some objective reality that one is trying to understand from charts? Is there a science or reasoning behind why certain positions, planets, houses mean something? Is it a little bit arbitrary or is there some kind of inductive reasoning involved (ie the vast majority of people with this astrological ascent behave a certain way, therefore this certain astrological ascent means that you will probably behave this way). I want to know if there is just some sort of innate talent that just make one person better at reading charts than the other (like music or sports), or if reading ability is strongly an acquired skill that takes practice and can be mastered with patience
Astrology is a very broad subject. Traditional and Vedic astrology each have methodologies that differ considerably from Modern astrology. There are thousands (if not millions) of astrologers all following different methodologies so your question would have many different 'answers' . Here is a link to information on Traditional as well as Modern astrology so that you can research http://www.skyscript.co.uk/ as well as a link to a translation of a famous ancient astrologer named Vettius Valens nine of whose books survived as an Anthology. http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/...s%20entire.pdf

The nine books of the Anthology constitute the most comprehensive astrological compendium surviving from the Hellenistic era. Valens' usual practice is to present the doctrines of the "ancients," report how these doctrines had been interpreted by his predecessors, and then give a critical assessment of these doctrines based on his own experience.
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What methods do most of the people on this forum use? From what I understand, interpretations of planets and their positions to one another seems to come from some kind of common knowledge base within the astrological community, but where did it come from in the first place? What exactly makes a planet or a sign feminine or masculine?
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What methods do most of the people on this forum use? From what I understand, interpretations of planets and their positions to one another seems to come from some kind of common knowledge base within the astrological community, but where did it come from in the first place? What exactly makes a planet or a sign feminine or masculine?
Members of this astrological community use a variety of techniques including horary, vedic, traditional and modern. The "common knowledge base" may well be that of techniques learned from astrology books as well as astrology lessons purchased from more experienced teachers and there are obviously thousands of online resources. As you have noted, these resources appear to have a common origin so you are questioning the origin of astrology.

Astrology is thousands of years old and many of the ancient techniques have either not survived at all in written form or have only survived in fragmented form. There is an astrologer who practices Babylonian Astrology and here is a link to that site http://www.babylonianastrology.com/
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What methods do most of the people on this forum use? From what I understand, interpretations of planets and their positions to one another seems to come from some kind of common knowledge base within the astrological community, but where did it come from in the first place? What exactly makes a planet or a sign feminine or masculine?
methodology on this forum is broadly based upon Modern (the majority here) and Traditional astrology. then it can be broken down into House systems, the majority on here use placidus, simply because it's the default on astro.com and they don't know any better. the main difference being Traditional astrologers don't use outer planets Uranus,Neptune and Pluto. there has/is a debate on here if you want to research...
are outer planets generational or personal
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39021

I'm a Modern astrologer that uses Equal house system... My knowledge has been learnt tried and testing over many years.

We have an Education forum, links for beginners and *stickys* in every forum giving futher tips, advices and knowledge. Plus we have a search feature, bit like google for looking up specific things.

I personally am not that interested in the *history of astrology* but if you want some links --- no problem--

why does astrology work - resources
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=291766&postcount=12
http://www.magicalmiracles.com/astrology.htm
http://www.thedreamtime.com/Astrology/Why-Astrology-Works.html
http://www.thegreenduck.com/ka/astwork.shtml
http://www.islandnet.com/~licht/why_astrology.htm
http://www.miscellaneoustalk.com/misc/does-astrology-work/
http://www.llewellyn.com/blog/2010/09/does-astrology-really-work-how/

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Sweet thanks astrology50. I think what I'm most familiar with is vedic astrology. I think the astrologers my familiy and friends go to use that methodology.
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Sweet thanks astrology50. I think what I'm most familiar with is vedic astrology. I think the astrologers my familiy and friends go to use that methodology.
we have a vedic sub forum, but is very much a minority thing here...
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You can say Science as in method/formula in Astrology; Astrology has its own Science. But we all have our own impression upon it. Some believe Sun Signs are important; some say it's Ascendant; others say Aspects. In my opinion you should choose the method that is most beneficial to you.
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Hi. I would recommend initially using the idea that each planet is like a character in a play, and the sign in which that planet is placed is like the role the planet is playing - the values it is trying to honour. The house of the planet shows in which areas of life the character will most likely come up, as do the houses which begin on the signs ruled by the planet. The aspects can then be seen as showing which planets in the group tend to interact with which other planets. The hard aspects show that the characters may antagonise one another and compete for expression, but also that they generate energy between them which can be put to good use if an appropriate channel is found for this energy. The easier aspects suggest that the characters are just happy with one another, with no need to exert themselves or struggle against each other - but this can also mean that they can get stuck in a rut in the way that interact.

This I think is a good way to start looking at charts. As you get into the symbols more you'll see how its a bit more complicated though, because some characters are happier in some roles than others, and that some pairs characters are better able to get along than two others might be because of their inherent differences.

Its also worth looking into the elements, which symbolise functions of consciousness, or ways of adapting to the world, because the human mind is set up to choose to develop one or two at the expense of the others. This affects which parts of the chart are consciously identified with matured through use, and which are more unconscious and therefore remaining in a relatively infantile state.

It is important to remember that you never, ever know how the chart manifests until you know something about the actual person. One could right innumerable scripts for the same set of characters. You can never know what has been written so far, by a combination of choice and environmental factors, for that set of characters - or what will be written in the future. You only know that those characters will be in it.

John Gacy probably shares his chart with others who were born at the same time near his location, or others may have the same placements that are cited, but they are probably perfectly decent people.
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The aspects can then be seen as showing which planets in the group tend to interact with which other planets. The hard aspects show that the characters may antagonise one another and compete for expression, but also that they generate energy between them which can be put to good use if an appropriate channel is found for this energy. The easier aspects suggest that the characters are just happy with one another, with no need to exert themselves or struggle against each other - but this can also mean that they can get stuck in a rut in the way that interact.
Could you liken this to chemistry or vibes? I've seen and read this type of analogy before but, since I'm not an actor I couldn't really relate, but I think I'm starting to see what you are getting at. Maybe, in one basic sense, the chemistry between the actors on the screen. I know you're looking at it much deeper, but like how some actors play well together and some just look forced depending who they're acting with. Then, like as in chemistry you and I have between people that we know, and meet, and how different those real world relationships can be. But this also, of course, on a personal as well as a grander scale...

I'm beginning to see how the immediate (and most likely the extended) universe might "play me" a bit like a stringed instrument... activating and deactivating aspects. Sending different harmonic signals that affect me in subtle or profound ways and that they are, of course, evolving constantly. Also possibly due to the aspects of my chart, I'm in tune with this universal music in my own signature way which is what makes people so very different.

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