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How To Read Your Past and Future Lives - By Manly P. Hall

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I wanted to share some reading on Astrology and Reincarnation by Manly P. Hall:

In astrology the sign ascending on the eastern angle of the heavens at the moment of birth is the general significator of the present incarnation.

The zodiacal sign upon the cusp of the 12th house may be termed the preceding sign to the ascendant, and the zodiacal sing upon the cusp of the 2nd house may be termed toe succeeding sing from the Ascendant.

The ascendant is the general significator of the present incarnation.

The 12th house is the is the signifacator of the life previous to the present one.

The sing upon the 2nd house is the next incarnation after the present one.

The rule is that the angular houses signify present life, succendant houses the next life to come, and candent houses the previous life and its karma.

Ordinarily the 12th house of the horoscope is termed the house of self-undoing, in that it reveals the fundamental weakness of character which undermines the probability of present success. The term “self-undoing” is identical in meaning with karma, or the accumulation of past actions which overshadows present conditions. This accumulation is carried forward from life to life until all weaknesses are overcome and final perfection is achieved.

It naturally flows that whatever zodiacal sign dominates the present life of the individual, the sign previous to it signifies the karma brought forward from the past. The positions of the ruler of that sign and planets in the 12th house reveal the circumstances of the previous existence, the probable place and time of the previous birth, and the genral circumstances for the existence.

The sign Aries ascending indicates Pisces to have dominated the previous existence. Aires, the first sign of the zodiac, is the beginning of a new cycle of experience. Aires people have come into this life form a previous existence of limitation, responsibly, and bondage. Their present life therefore a release and they move forward, dominated by strong ambition and enthusiasm.

If Taurus ascending, they have brought forward the impulse of the previous Arian existence. Most Taurians bring forward attitudes of Aires, and beneath their artistic surface, emotional fires bear witness to the militancy of their previous incarnation.

When Gemini ascends
, we find beneath the intellectual attitude the karmic pressures of Taurus. The superficiality of the Gemini temperament is evident throughout this country, which is strongly mercurial. Yet, under the general intellectual surface of the national is a powerful and despotic economic force that is a distinct Taurian hangover.

When Cancer ascends,
Gemini lurks in the background. Cancer people are subject to the distorted imaginations of a negative and uncontrolled Mercury. Its hard for Cancer people to be natural and relaxed, for behind them is a life lived under the influence of a negative Mercury agitation the intellect by complex of options and fears that are too often allowed to grow into facts.

When Leo is ascending, there is a generally a strength complex arising out of the weakness of the previous life. For this reason, Leo people are apt to be egotistic and power-loving, building a positive outward front to protect a very sensitive, emotional, imaginative, subjective nature held over from the Cancer influence.

When Virgo is ascending,
there is a subconscious repentance in the soul. The previous life was under the forceful, domination influence of Leo. The Leo incarnation revealed the emptiness and vainness of authority, and the native is born into Virgo with a strong tendency to the simple life. Virgo is the sign of atonement, and the individual has the impulse to help a world which he probably tyrannized in the previous life. Deep inside themselves may Virgo people have rather definite Leo superiority complex and a tendency to boss.

When Libra ascends,
the individual brings into life Virgo Karma. The people of Virgo have a tendency to lean and depend, and this weakness comes forward in Libra as a sense of internal insufficiency. The Libra native is of an artistic, somewhat irritable, delicate temperament. He has a strong vanity arising out of his Virgo repentance.

When Scorpio ascends, the strong emotional power of the previous life combines its force with the fiery nature of this sign. Libra is artistic and emotional with a tendency to melancholy. Scorpio intensifies these qualities, giving also depth and organization to the though. The self-gratification of Libra is the national foundation for the powerful ambitions of the Scorpio.

Sagittarius ascending produces a jovial temperament, but the Scorpio qualities of the previous life are also present, producing their love of the mysterious, religious, and philosophic aspirations, a strong emotional nature, a love of power and position, and danger of overindulgence. The schemes and plots of Scorpio are released as vast promotion projects by the Sagittarians.

It may first seem improbable that we should find much of the Sagittarius in Capricornian. With Capricorn rising however, we find great emphasis upon the ambitions and considerable measure of the Sagittarian concept of justice. When Capricorn ascends, the individual generally feels that he is limited or inhibited. the large Jupiterian promotions of his previous life are curtailed by the Saturnine limitations of his present sphere of action, so he is dissatisfied and repressed.

As Capricorn is the most limited sign of the zodiac (a limitation, however, mostly self-imposed), it is natural that the next incarnation should be a revolt against limitation. The result is the Aquarian whose life if often dedicated to unconventionality. With Aquarius Rising, there is a general revolt against precedent, convention, and conservativeness. Generous in large matters, Aquarians often retain a selfishness in small things essentially Capricornian.

Pisces is the last sign of the zodiac as it brings to the end the cycle of karma set in motion in Aries. People with this sign rising will usually have rather hectic lives, gathering up loose ends of unfinished business. Firm Aquarius, the preceding sing, come vacillation, inconsistency, and nervousness. From all the preceding signs come responsibilities and problems to be assimilated and transmitted into soul power. Its is the particular duty of the Piscean to put his life in order and prepare himself for a new beginning and a higher level of action. Pisces is the weakest of the signs because it represents the end of a cycle of the experience.


By reading the 12th house as the Ascendant, the genral pattern of the previous life can be determined in reasonable detail, and we can discover the subtle forces we have brought us to our present state and dominate our present life. Thought the understanding of this branch of astrology, we can appreciate the old philosophical belief that all we are today is the result of what we have been, and that we will be tomorrow must be the result of what we are today. We learn from the past, we labor in the present, and we build for the future.

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Re: How To Read Your Past and Future Lives - By Manly P. Hall

Thank you for sharing this, deanna

My only question is this: if someone has a certain sign intercepted in the twelfth house, would he or she read the description of the previous Ascendant so the past life description matches the sign on the twelfth house cusp?

For example, I've got the sign Aquarius on the sign of the twelfth house cusp, but the time on my birth certificate gives me an Aries Ascendant. This may not matter much if the time is off by three minutes or more, but I'm still curious how intercepted signs would affect the interpretation...

Surely intercepted and duplicated signs are karmic indications in themselves?

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Re: How To Read Your Past and Future Lives - By Manly P. Hall

Greetings!

The zodiacal sign upon the cusp of the 12th house is the indicator.

You have a very good question!

Could it be that with intercepted signs that the karma from both are being pulled into the present incarnation?

Maybe a past life was cut short so the karma was not fullfilled so there is an accumulation of the two?


Arian Maverick, how busy are you feeling these days with multiple incarnations ?:9:



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For the newbees: Intercepted signs or house: A House which appears within another House on the chart wheel. Common to those born in far northern or southern latitudes.
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I like this theory, but as with many estoteric and metaphysical topics, it is difficult to prove. I'll let you know if I happen to have any remote viewing experiences into future lives, though!

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As busy as a bee!

Seriously, though, what has been others' experiences with these interpretations?

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Re: How To Read Your Past and Future Lives - By Manly P. Hall

Thanks for that info Deanna,
Would you say then that we incarnate in accordance to the zodiac wheel... meaning that each life takes the next consecutive sign. So if Im Librian ASC now, the next will be Scrop, the next Sag etc....

And For Arian - Maybe be this intercepted 12th house of yours has something to do with the missing 1911 that we have been looking for. It came like a bolt when I read this post & your reply. I have no idea's yet how the heck I will work that out, but it maybe something to ponder.
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Would you say then that we incarnate in accordance to the zodiac wheel... meaning that each life takes the next consecutive sign. So if Im Librian ASC now, the next will be Scrop, the next Sag etc....
Yes, in accordance to your chart.

But we can also look at this in a positive way

Where would Taurus be without bringing forth the previous impulse of Aires? A prisoner of complete routine ?

The ascendant needs to work through the negetive/posititve of what is being pulled in by the sign that resides on the cusp of the 12th house, in hopes to obtain the best of that sign, then bringing it into the next incarnate then so on.
Then as stated:

Pisces is the last sign of the zodiac as it brings to the end the cycle of karma set in motion in Aries. From all the preceding signs come responsibilities and problems to be assimilated and transmitted into soul power.


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Re: How To Read Your Past and Future Lives - By Manly P. Hall

I recieved a email a while back but I never had a source for this information....it looks identical to what you have posted here......still there is more......It was labeled Tibetan Astrology and the Kalachakra.....
I thought I'd post it...I have been wondering the source of this information for a while now....could it be Manly P. Hall?
I have found this information facinating but haven't done anything with it yet....
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TIBETAN ASTROLOGY AND KALACHAKRA

TO READ YOUR PAST AND FUTURE LIVES . The problems which these Tibetan priests seek to solve are comprehended under three headings:

The place of the spiritual entity among the Nidanas, or the sequence of consequences, which cause the physical incarnation of the soul. (Order the sign of the Zodiac).


The level or plane of consciousness in which the entity functioned prior to its present life, which contributes the moral force to the present existence. (Planetary spheres - Loka - Region).

Such details and circumstances of the previous existence as may account for the karma, or processes of retribution, which are at work in the present existence. (See indicating planet in Birth Chart).


In addition to these, a horoscope may be erected for the moment of death by which the future state of the soul or entity is estimated. (Flight to Loka - Planet sphere – Region

The principle behind the Bhava Chakra (Wheel of Houses - Cycle of Trans migratory Existence) recorded on the ceiling of the Lamias monastery at Sik-kim is entirely astrological.


The outer circle of the figure is divided into 12 parts, which are termed the nidanas, or the causes that move the soul to rebirth. These nidanas are the 12 zodiacal signs, each one of which contains within it an impulse to action, or as the ancients termed it, a cause of contact.


The first nidana, under Aries, is called the unconscious will. It is represented by a blind man, and signifies the soul passing from death to rebirth.


The second nidana, under Taurus, is called conformation, and is represented by a potter and his pots signifying the soul shaping the materials of the mental and physical natures.

The third nidana, under Gemini, called the conscious will, is typified by the restlessness of the monkey. It signifies the rise of conscious experience in the soul.


The fourth nidana, under Cancer, called self-consciousness, is represented by a ship containing man, woman, and animals and signifies the rise of the quality of individuality.

The fifth nidana, under Leo, is represented by an empty house, and signifies the development of the sensory perceptions.

The sixth nidana, under Virgo, is a figure representing marriage, and signifies the focusing of the sense perceptions upon exterior objects.

The seventh nidana, under Libra, is represented by a figure with an arrow in its eye, and signifies the illusions of pain and pleasure and their reaction upon the soul.


The 8th Nadine, under Scorpio, is called desire, and is involved in the experiences of gratification.

The ninth nidana, under Sagittarius, is termed indulgence, and is represented by a man collecting fruit into a basket. It signifies attachment to worldly possessions.

The tenth nidana, under Capricorn, represents maturity, and signifies the fullness of material existence brought to its highest philosophical level.

The eleventh nidana, under Aquarius, is compensation represented by the birth of a son. This signifies the paying off of all debts to nature and final detachment there from.

The twelfth nidana, under Pisces, shows the dead body being carried to the grave. It signifies decay of all points of contact by which the life is held to the material state.


After the twelfth, the first begins again, and so on through all the cycles of existence. The nidanas of course, represent the dominating consciousness or the place of the spiritual self in the great cycle of progress. While our little life has its birth, growth, maturity and decay, so many hundreds of these lives form together a greater cycle involving a vast process of life moving through its several stages.


By the position of the sun, the nidana is determined; and by the Ascendant, the subdivision of the nidana is ascertained.

Thus, a person born with the sun in Pisces is born to the experience of detachment, for he is bringing a cycle of experience to an end.

A person born with the sun in Scorpio is born under the eighth nidana, and the sole purpose of his existence is to experience the consequences of greed, personality, and possession.

The Ascendant of the horoscope represents a minor cycle of experience with a great one. It qualifies and the general significance. For example, the fifth nidana, or Leo, is an externalising of the sensory power and generally manifests as ambition.

If the Ascendant is in the third nidana, of Gemini, representing the effort to establish individual sufficiency, it qualifies the major factor and denotes that the ambitions will be of an intellectual or mental nature. By calculations based upon this arrangement, the primary purpose of the soul's incarnation is established. In application, it is generally found that this purpose more or less dominates the individual in whose horoscope it is indicated.


In the Tibetan monastery figure, Kala Chakra, the central part of the design, representing the world or, more exactly, the conditions of consciousness which together make up the world, is divided into six parts. (See front page). In the painting, these parts or panels are filled with elaborate designs setting forth the conditions of souls in various levels or degrees of spiritual development.


The six compartments of the circle are divided into upper and lower hemispheres of three compartments each. The upper hemisphere represents the three nobles states of being which are denominated in degrees of excellence: 1 - the world of the gods; 2 - the world of the Titans or heroes; 3 - the world of men.


Together these three parts depict the happy states of consciousness, which are the reward of good karma, that is, lives of noble thought and action, balanced towards giving in life. The three compartments of the lower hemisphere of the circle depict the misery resultant from bad karma, or destructive thought, emotion, and action. The three compartments are named respectively: 1 - the world of animals; 2 - the world of ghosts; 3 - the world of hells or spheres of violent retribution.


In each of these six parts of the world is also depicted a form of the Buddha symbolizing the universal enlightenment, which regenerates and preserves evolving souls in all the spheres of being.

The sun, of course, represents the Buddha, the power of diffused illumination. The solar energy, distributed through the natural creation, is the universal source of the impulse toward light and truth.

The six compartments through which the sun's light shines pertain to the other major bodies of the solar system known to the old astrologers, the world of the gods.

The world of the gods is the sphere of Jupiter consciousness; that of the Titans, Martial consciousness; that of human beings, Mercurial consciousness. These planets, therefore, dominate the upper hemispheres of the sphere of consciousness. Venus represents animal consciousness; The moon, the imaginative consciousness, termed the world of ghosts; and Saturn, the retribution consciousness or the karmic hells


Reincarnation

In the East, it is taught that each soul coming into material life enters from one of the six compartments of the Wheel of the Law. Astrologically, the rule for determining the origin of the soul's present life cycle is as follows:

Examine the horoscope and discover whether the sun or the moon is stronger.

1. Determine this from position, dignity, and aspect. Then observe in which decant the more powerful luminary is placed. (10 degrees divisions in the Zodiac)

2. Find the ruler of this decant according to ordinary astrological practice, and the ruler of decant shall signify the sphere of consciousness, or Lokas, from which the soul came into birth. (Planetary Body's Sphere).


3. Next, examine the position of the planet, which is ruler of decanting as to its dignity, positioned, aspect, etc.

4. From this determine the quality of the previous life.

5. If the ruler of decants enjoys dignity and high position, the same would be true of the previous life of the native.

6. If it is afflicted, cadet, or ill placed, the previous state of the life was unfortunate.

7. The Brahmans practice a similar system. They consider only four worlds, but the method of determining this important matter is identical in both systems. In astrology, the sign ascending on the eastern angle of the heavens at the moment of birth is the general signification of the present incarnation.


And the entire horoscope is read from this Ascendant, and all the testimonies of the chart are blended with the fundamental keynote of this ascending sign. The zodiacal sign upon the cusp of the 12th house may be termed the preceding sign to the Ascendant, and the zodiacal sign upon the cusp of the 2nd house may be termed the succeeding sign from the Ascendant.

As the Ascendant signifies the present state of the evolving soul, the cusp of the 12th house becomes the signification of the life previous to the present one, and the sign upon the cusp of the 2nd house, the next incarnation after the present one.


The rule is that angular houses signify the present life, succeeding houses the next life to come, and cadet houses the previous life and its karma.

If, then, we move the horoscope sufficiently to bring the 12th house cusp to the Ascendant, we can then read the horoscope as the nativity of the previous life.


Ordinarily the 12th house of the horoscope is termed the house of self-undoing, in that it reveals the fundamental weaknesses of character which undermine the probability of present success. The term self-undoing is identical in meaning with karma, or the accumulation of past actions, which overshadow present conditions.

This accumulation is carried forward from life to life until all weaknesses are overcome and final perfection is achieved. It naturally follows that whatever zodiacal sign dominates the present life of the individual, the sign previous to it signifies the karma brought forward from the past.


The positions of the ruler of that sign and planets in the 12th house reveal the circumstances of the previous existence, the probable place and time of the previous birth, and the general circumstances of that existence.

Aries Ascending indicates Pisces to have dominated the previous existence. Aries, the first sign of the zodiac, is the beginning of a new cycle of experience. Aries people have come into this life from a previous existence of limitations, responsibility, and bondage. Their present life is therefore a release, and they move forward, dominated by strong ambition and enthusiasm.


Taurus Ascending; they have brought forward the impulse of the previous Arian existence. Mostly Taurus brings forward attitudes of Aries, and, beneath their artistic surface, emotional fires bear witness to the militancy of their previous incarnation.

Gemini Ascends we find beneath the intellectual attitude the karmic pressure of Taurus. The superficiality of the Gemini temperament is evident throughout English speaking countries. Still under the general intellectual surface of these individuals you find strong powerful economical and despotic manipulations as a hangover from previous lives lived with the Taurus complex.

Cancer Ascends; Gemini lurks in the background. Cancer people are subject to the distorted imaginations of negative and uncontrolled Mercury. It is hard for Cancer people to be natural and relaxed, for behind them is a life lived under the influence of a negative Mercury agitating the intellect by a complex of opinions and fears that are too often allowed to grow into fact.


Leo is Ascending; there is generally a strength complex arising out of the weakness of the previous life. For this reason, Leo people are apt to be egotistic and power-loving, building a positive outward front to protect a very sensitive, emotional, imaginative, subjective nature held over from the Cancer influence.

Virgo is Ascending; there is a subconscious repentance in the soul. The previous life was under the forceful, dominating influence of Leo. The Leo incarnations revealed the emptiness and vainness of authority, and the native is born into Virgo with a strong tendency to the simple life. Virgo is a sign of atonement, and the individual has the impulse to help a world, which he probably tyrannized in the previous life. Deep inside themselves, many Virgo people have rather a definite Leo superiority complex and a tendency to boss.


Libra Ascends; the individual brings into life Virgo karma. The people of Virgo have a tendency to lean and depend, and this weakness comes forward in Libra as a sense of internal insufficiency. The Libra native is of an artistic, somewhat irritable, delicate temperament. He has strong vanity arising out of his Virgo repentance.

Scorpio Ascends; the strong emotional power of the previous life combines its force with the fiery nature of this sign. Libra is artistic and emotional with a tendency to melancholy. Scorpio intensifies these qualities, giving also depth and organization to the thought. The self-gratification of Libra is the natural foundation for the powerful ambitions of Scorpio.

Sagittarius Ascending produces a jovial temperament, but the Scorpio qualities of the previous life are also present, producing their love of the mysterious, religious, and philosophic aspirations, a strong emotional nature, a love of power and position, and danger of over-indulgence. The Sagittarius releases the schemes and plots of Scorpio as vast promotion projects.

It may at first seem improbable that we should find much of Sagittarius in the Capricorn. With Capricorn rising, however, we find great emphasis upon the ambitions and a considerable measure of the Sagittarius concept of justice.



Capricorn Ascends, the individual generally feels that he is limited or inhibited. The large Jupiter promotions of his previous life are curtailed by the saturnine limitations of his present sphere of action, so he is dissatisfied and repressed.

Capricorn is the most limited sign in the zodiac (a limitation, however, mostly self-imposed), it is natural that the next incarnation should be a revolt against limitation. The result is the Aquarius whose life is often dedicated to unconventionality. With Aquarius rising, there is a general revolt against precedent, convention, and conservatives. Generous in large matters,

Aquarius often retains selfishness in small things essentially Capricorn.

Pisces is the last sign of the zodiac and it brings to an end the cycle of karma set in motion in Aries. People with this sign rising will usually have rather hectic lives, gathering up the loose ends of unfinished business.

From Aquarius, the preceding sign denotes vacillation, inconsistency and nervous-ness. From all the preceding signs come responsibilities and problems to be assimilated and transmuted into soul power. It is the particular duty of the Piscine to put his life in order and prepare himself for a new beginning of and a higher level of action. Pisces is the weakest of the signs because it represents the end of a cycle of experience.



By reading the 12th house as the Ascendant, the general pattern of the previous life can be determined with reasonable detail, and we can discover the subtle forces, which have brought us to our present state and dominate our present life.

Through the understanding of this branch of astrology, we can appreciate the old philosophical belief that what we are today is the result of what we have been, and that what we will be tomorrow must be the result of what we are today. We learn from the past, we labour in the present, and we build for the future.
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I recieved a email a while back but I never had a source for this information....it looks identical to what you have posted here......still there is more......It was labeled Tibetan Astrology and the Kalachakra.....
I thought I'd post it...I have been wondering the source of this information for a while now....could it be Manly P. Hall?
Yes, Its Manly P. Hall writings on Astrology and Reincarnation.

Some more food for thought:

The great philosopher of India, Gautama Budda, once said: “Effect follows cause as the wheel of the card follows the foot of the oxen.” We live in a world completely ruled by a law of universal compensation. Most of the miseries which now afflict suffering mankind are due to our ignoring the principle of compensation in action. We do not sense the profound moral inference behind the story of the sowing and the reaping.

It is perfectly natural to ask: how does astrology fit into this picture? What part do the stars play in the administration of the taw of cause and effect? To understand this point, we must also have recourse to another law of the ancients-reincarnation. Life is eternally building, constantly improving vehicles for its own expression.

For our present purpose, we narrow down this subject to the life of man, for as Socrates once wisely observed: “The proper study of mankind is man.”

Reincarnation applied to man teaches that each human being has already lived many times upon this earth, and in future ages will frequently return. The present life of a person is, therefore, not the whole of his existence, but a mere fragment.

Causes leading up to this present existence are not always evident in this life. Nor are the consequences, which, arising from present action, will manifest in some future life. The ancients believed that from the horoscope it was possible to discover certain generalities of the previous life.

The law of cause and effect, when applied particularly to human concerns, was called karma by the ancients. Karma does not mean fatalism, but rather, compensation. When man buys something on credit, he creates a debt, and the law declares that he must pay that debt. In material, economic transaction this would not be regarded as fatalism, but as responsibility. Every action which a human performs may thus be regarded as a cause, and every cause thus set in motion must have an effect consistent with itself. This is not fatality; this is compensation, or karma.
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Re: How To Read Your Past and Future Lives - By Manly P. Hall

Past life astrology is fascinating, but there is just no way to prove it. Reincarnation may well deal with various issues which one is dealing with in the present, continuing effort, failures, successes, conflicts, carried over from successive lifetimes and we may have substance accrued from past lives.

Some believe we are here to gain certain experiences, and this is a kind of “soul” astrology which is far removed it seems from traditional astrology. Though perhaps traditional has more practical use. I am just wondering how this information helps people in their present lives when it is mostly speculation, and I don’t mean this in a negative sense.

Psychological astrology is another kind of study of the soul, but we are still here in the present and dealing with issues as we see them in reality.

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This lifetime is our whole existence as far as we can see it from birth onwards. Evolutionary astrology deals primarily with the belief that we have lived former lives. Pluto and the nodes are examined to understand the soul’s evolution. Other astrologers use the Moon and its Nodes. Psychological astrology would look at the Moon to understand the past, but only as far as being a baby in this lifetime, but we sometimes go as far back as the womb when looking at the 12th house.

Thanks for posting it is an interesting read.

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I should had a past life (at least 2 out of 10 of them) as a woman, you know a loyal housewive and devoted mother. To have a Gemini above me came to stand for a past life hospitalized, imprisoned and fell into poverty. In the victorian 19th century/ 1910s, women's social rule is strict and confusing on the "ladies first in the trolley, but she cannot vote like men" emphasis.

Most of my life however is a male like the current one I live in and can't be sure if a Capricorn descending/Aquarius above: my zodiac sign of this life. I'm expecting by the Cancer ascendant foretells my next one is on a world in threat of a rebellion and I live in a world of stricter rules to make the late 20th/early 21st centuries a "lost paradise" of freedoms we swiftly lost.
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or , I have the same ruling planets: Uranus and Saturn. I see the Cancer rising. Aries in the MC and Venus was her name!

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if i have a sagittarius ascendant..........what wud my past life be like?

u can even check my chart ...

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cud u pls explain the past life on my chart..thank u
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My natal Aquarius moon interferes with my solar sign, because Aquarius is a sign seeking liberation from the pains, worries and dilemmas of things past to steer ahead into the future we seek to become better and the urge for human evolution continues to provide a healthy level of optimism.
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or , I have the same ruling planets: Uranus and Saturn. I see the Cancer rising. Aries in the MC and Venus was her name!
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When Virgo is ascending,
there is a subconscious repentance in the soul. The previous life was under the forceful, domination influence of Leo. The Leo incarnation revealed the emptiness and vainness of authority, and the native is born into Virgo with a strong tendency to the simple life. Virgo is the sign of atonement, and the individual has the impulse to help a world which he probably tyrannized in the previous life. Deep inside themselves may Virgo people have rather definite Leo superiority complex and a tendency to boss.
I really do think myself has a Leo in me, but not totally sure because Scorpio can also be very proud like Leo but not as obvious. But 12th is the end of the water house, I do reckon Virgo ascendant will always have a Leo deep inside us. And Sun is always the sign that rules the 12th house for Virgo ascendant anyway! My Sun is in 3rd house conjunct Mercury ruling his own house by natural rulership which also makes me a lot more talkative than regular private Scorpions. Mercury rules 10th house Gemini anyway.

Tendency to boss people around, I agree to this as well. At time, I act like a mother of the environment...you do know what mother does..do you? In both good and bad ways!
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ok, what if the Acc and the Sun are opposits like scorpio and leo. also what effect does the 4th house have on present life?

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I recieved a email a while back but I never had a source for this information....it looks identical to what you have posted here......still there is more......It was labeled Tibetan Astrology and the Kalachakra.....
I thought I'd post it...I have been wondering the source of this information for a while now....could it be Manly P. Hall?
I have found this information facinating but haven't done anything with it yet....
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TIBETAN ASTROLOGY AND KALACHAKRA

TO READ YOUR PAST AND FUTURE LIVES . The problems which these Tibetan priests seek to solve are comprehended under three headings:

The place of the spiritual entity among the Nidanas, or the sequence of consequences, which cause the physical incarnation of the soul. (Order the sign of the Zodiac).


The level or plane of consciousness in which the entity functioned prior to its present life, which contributes the moral force to the present existence. (Planetary spheres - Loka - Region).

Such details and circumstances of the previous existence as may account for the karma, or processes of retribution, which are at work in the present existence. (See indicating planet in Birth Chart).


In addition to these, a horoscope may be erected for the moment of death by which the future state of the soul or entity is estimated. (Flight to Loka - Planet sphere – Region

The principle behind the Bhava Chakra (Wheel of Houses - Cycle of Trans migratory Existence) recorded on the ceiling of the Lamias monastery at Sik-kim is entirely astrological.


The outer circle of the figure is divided into 12 parts, which are termed the nidanas, or the causes that move the soul to rebirth. These nidanas are the 12 zodiacal signs, each one of which contains within it an impulse to action, or as the ancients termed it, a cause of contact.


The first nidana, under Aries, is called the unconscious will. It is represented by a blind man, and signifies the soul passing from death to rebirth.


The second nidana, under Taurus, is called conformation, and is represented by a potter and his pots signifying the soul shaping the materials of the mental and physical natures.

The third nidana, under Gemini, called the conscious will, is typified by the restlessness of the monkey. It signifies the rise of conscious experience in the soul.


The fourth nidana, under Cancer, called self-consciousness, is represented by a ship containing man, woman, and animals and signifies the rise of the quality of individuality.

The fifth nidana, under Leo, is represented by an empty house, and signifies the development of the sensory perceptions.

The sixth nidana, under Virgo, is a figure representing marriage, and signifies the focusing of the sense perceptions upon exterior objects.

The seventh nidana, under Libra, is represented by a figure with an arrow in its eye, and signifies the illusions of pain and pleasure and their reaction upon the soul.


The 8th Nadine, under Scorpio, is called desire, and is involved in the experiences of gratification.

The ninth nidana, under Sagittarius, is termed indulgence, and is represented by a man collecting fruit into a basket. It signifies attachment to worldly possessions.

The tenth nidana, under Capricorn, represents maturity, and signifies the fullness of material existence brought to its highest philosophical level.

The eleventh nidana, under Aquarius, is compensation represented by the birth of a son. This signifies the paying off of all debts to nature and final detachment there from.

The twelfth nidana, under Pisces, shows the dead body being carried to the grave. It signifies decay of all points of contact by which the life is held to the material state.


After the twelfth, the first begins again, and so on through all the cycles of existence. The nidanas of course, represent the dominating consciousness or the place of the spiritual self in the great cycle of progress. While our little life has its birth, growth, maturity and decay, so many hundreds of these lives form together a greater cycle involving a vast process of life moving through its several stages.


By the position of the sun, the nidana is determined; and by the Ascendant, the subdivision of the nidana is ascertained.

Thus, a person born with the sun in Pisces is born to the experience of detachment, for he is bringing a cycle of experience to an end.

A person born with the sun in Scorpio is born under the eighth nidana, and the sole purpose of his existence is to experience the consequences of greed, personality, and possession.

The Ascendant of the horoscope represents a minor cycle of experience with a great one. It qualifies and the general significance. For example, the fifth nidana, or Leo, is an externalising of the sensory power and generally manifests as ambition.

If the Ascendant is in the third nidana, of Gemini, representing the effort to establish individual sufficiency, it qualifies the major factor and denotes that the ambitions will be of an intellectual or mental nature. By calculations based upon this arrangement, the primary purpose of the soul's incarnation is established. In application, it is generally found that this purpose more or less dominates the individual in whose horoscope it is indicated.


In the Tibetan monastery figure, Kala Chakra, the central part of the design, representing the world or, more exactly, the conditions of consciousness which together make up the world, is divided into six parts. (See front page). In the painting, these parts or panels are filled with elaborate designs setting forth the conditions of souls in various levels or degrees of spiritual development.


The six compartments of the circle are divided into upper and lower hemispheres of three compartments each. The upper hemisphere represents the three nobles states of being which are denominated in degrees of excellence: 1 - the world of the gods; 2 - the world of the Titans or heroes; 3 - the world of men.


Together these three parts depict the happy states of consciousness, which are the reward of good karma, that is, lives of noble thought and action, balanced towards giving in life. The three compartments of the lower hemisphere of the circle depict the misery resultant from bad karma, or destructive thought, emotion, and action. The three compartments are named respectively: 1 - the world of animals; 2 - the world of ghosts; 3 - the world of hells or spheres of violent retribution.


In each of these six parts of the world is also depicted a form of the Buddha symbolizing the universal enlightenment, which regenerates and preserves evolving souls in all the spheres of being.

The sun, of course, represents the Buddha, the power of diffused illumination. The solar energy, distributed through the natural creation, is the universal source of the impulse toward light and truth.

The six compartments through which the sun's light shines pertain to the other major bodies of the
solar panel known to the old astrologers, the world of the gods.

The world of the gods is the sphere of Jupiter consciousness; that of the Titans, Martial consciousness; that of human beings, Mercurial consciousness. These planets, therefore, dominate the upper hemispheres of the sphere of consciousness. Venus represents animal consciousness; The moon, the imaginative consciousness, termed the world of ghosts; and Saturn, the retribution consciousness or the karmic hells


Reincarnation

In the East, it is taught that each soul coming into material life enters from one of the six compartments of the Wheel of the Law. Astrologically, the rule for determining the origin of the soul's present life cycle is as follows:

Examine the horoscope and discover whether the sun or the moon is stronger.

1. Determine this from position, dignity, and aspect. Then observe in which decant the more powerful luminary is placed. (10 degrees divisions in the Zodiac)

2. Find the ruler of this decant according to ordinary astrological practice, and the ruler of decant shall signify the sphere of consciousness, or Lokas, from which the soul came into birth. (Planetary Body's Sphere).


3. Next, examine the position of the planet, which is ruler of decanting as to its dignity, positioned, aspect, etc.

4. From this determine the quality of the previous life.

5. If the ruler of decants enjoys dignity and high position, the same would be true of the previous life of the native.

6. If it is afflicted, cadet, or ill placed, the previous state of the life was unfortunate.

7. The Brahmans practice a similar system. They consider only four worlds, but the method of determining this important matter is identical in both systems. In astrology, the sign ascending on the eastern angle of the heavens at the moment of birth is the general signification of the present incarnation.


And the entire horoscope is read from this Ascendant, and all the testimonies of the chart are blended with the fundamental keynote of this ascending sign. The zodiacal sign upon the cusp of the 12th house may be termed the preceding sign to the Ascendant, and the zodiacal sign upon the cusp of the 2nd house may be termed the succeeding sign from the Ascendant.

As the Ascendant signifies the present state of the evolving soul, the cusp of the 12th house becomes the signification of the life previous to the present one, and the sign upon the cusp of the 2nd house, the next incarnation after the present one.


The rule is that angular houses signify the present life, succeeding houses the next life to come, and cadet houses the previous life and its karma.

If, then, we move the horoscope sufficiently to bring the 12th house cusp to the Ascendant, we can then read the horoscope as the nativity of the previous life.


Ordinarily the 12th house of the horoscope is termed the house of self-undoing, in that it reveals the fundamental weaknesses of character which undermine the probability of present success. The term self-undoing is identical in meaning with karma, or the accumulation of past actions, which overshadow present conditions.

This accumulation is carried forward from life to life until all weaknesses are overcome and final perfection is achieved. It naturally follows that whatever zodiacal sign dominates the present life of the individual, the sign previous to it signifies the karma brought forward from the past.


The positions of the ruler of that sign and planets in the 12th house reveal the circumstances of the previous existence, the probable place and time of the previous birth, and the general circumstances of that existence.

Aries Ascending indicates Pisces to have dominated the previous existence. Aries, the first sign of the zodiac, is the beginning of a new cycle of experience. Aries people have come into this life from a previous existence of limitations, responsibility, and bondage. Their present life is therefore a release, and they move forward, dominated by strong ambition and enthusiasm.


Taurus Ascending; they have brought forward the impulse of the previous Arian existence. Mostly Taurus brings forward attitudes of Aries, and, beneath their artistic surface, emotional fires bear witness to the militancy of their previous incarnation.

Gemini Ascends we find beneath the intellectual attitude the karmic pressure of Taurus. The superficiality of the Gemini temperament is evident throughout English speaking countries. Still under the general intellectual surface of these individuals you find strong powerful economical and despotic manipulations as a hangover from previous lives lived with the Taurus complex.

Cancer Ascends; Gemini lurks in the background. Cancer people are subject to the distorted imaginations of negative and uncontrolled Mercury. It is hard for Cancer people to be natural and relaxed, for behind them is a life lived under the influence of a negative Mercury agitating the intellect by a complex of opinions and fears that are too often allowed to grow into fact.


Leo is Ascending; there is generally a strength complex arising out of the weakness of the previous life. For this reason, Leo people are apt to be egotistic and power-loving, building a positive outward front to protect a very sensitive, emotional, imaginative, subjective nature held over from the Cancer influence.

Virgo is Ascending; there is a subconscious repentance in the soul. The previous life was under the forceful, dominating influence of Leo. The Leo incarnations revealed the emptiness and vainness of authority, and the native is born into Virgo with a strong tendency to the simple life. Virgo is a sign of atonement, and the individual has the impulse to help a world, which he probably tyrannized in the previous life. Deep inside themselves, many Virgo people have rather a definite Leo superiority complex and a tendency to boss.


Libra Ascends; the individual brings into life Virgo karma. The people of Virgo have a tendency to lean and depend, and this weakness comes forward in Libra as a sense of internal insufficiency. The Libra native is of an artistic, somewhat irritable, delicate temperament. He has strong vanity arising out of his Virgo repentance.

Scorpio Ascends; the strong emotional power of the previous life combines its force with the fiery nature of this sign. Libra is artistic and emotional with a tendency to melancholy. Scorpio intensifies these qualities, giving also depth and organization to the thought. The self-gratification of Libra is the natural foundation for the powerful ambitions of Scorpio.

Sagittarius Ascending produces a jovial temperament, but the Scorpio qualities of the previous life are also present, producing their love of the mysterious, religious, and philosophic aspirations, a strong emotional nature, a love of power and position, and danger of over-indulgence. The Sagittarius releases the schemes and plots of Scorpio as vast promotion projects.

It may at first seem improbable that we should find much of Sagittarius in the Capricorn. With Capricorn rising, however, we find great emphasis upon the ambitions and a considerable measure of the Sagittarius concept of justice.



Capricorn Ascends, the individual generally feels that he is limited or inhibited. The large Jupiter promotions of his previous life are curtailed by the saturnine limitations of his present sphere of action, so he is dissatisfied and repressed.

Capricorn is the most limited sign in the zodiac (a limitation, however, mostly self-imposed), it is natural that the next incarnation should be a revolt against limitation. The result is the Aquarius whose life is often dedicated to unconventionality. With Aquarius rising, there is a general revolt against precedent, convention, and conservatives. Generous in large matters,

Aquarius often retains selfishness in small things essentially Capricorn.

Pisces is the last sign of the zodiac and it brings to an end the cycle of karma set in motion in Aries. People with this sign rising will usually have rather hectic lives, gathering up the loose ends of unfinished business.

From Aquarius, the preceding sign denotes vacillation, inconsistency and nervous-ness. From all the preceding signs come responsibilities and problems to be assimilated and transmuted into soul power. It is the particular duty of the Piscine to put his life in order and prepare himself for a new beginning of and a higher level of action. Pisces is the weakest of the signs because it represents the end of a cycle of experience.



By reading the 12th house as the Ascendant, the general pattern of the previous life can be determined with reasonable detail, and we can discover the subtle forces, which have brought us to our present state and dominate our present life.

Through the understanding of this branch of astrology, we can appreciate the old philosophical belief that what we are today is the result of what we have been, and that what we will be tomorrow must be the result of what we are today. We learn from the past, we labour in the present, and we build for the future
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These all are asian ways of finding our future.. Merely wastage of time..Ideal is to concentrate on your work which will make a better future

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I recieved a email a while back but I never had a source for this information....it looks identical to what you have posted here......still there is more......It was labeled Tibetan Astrology and the Kalachakra.....
I thought I'd post it...I have been wondering the source of this information for a while now....could it be Manly P. Hall?
I have found this information facinating but haven't done anything with it yet....
Tsquare
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TIBETAN ASTROLOGY AND KALACHAKRA

TO READ YOUR PAST AND FUTURE LIVES . The problems which these Tibetan priests seek to solve are comprehended under three headings:

The place of the spiritual entity among the Nidanas, or the sequence of consequences, which cause the physical incarnation of the soul. (Order the sign of the Zodiac).


The level or plane of consciousness in which the entity functioned prior to its present life, which contributes the moral force to the present existence. (Planetary spheres - Loka - Region).

Such details and circumstances of the previous existence as may account for the karma, or processes of retribution, which are at work in the present existence. (See indicating planet in Birth Chart).


In addition to these, a horoscope may be erected for the moment of death by which the future state of the soul or entity is estimated. (Flight to Loka - Planet sphere – Region

The principle behind the Bhava Chakra (Wheel of Houses - Cycle of Trans migratory Existence) recorded on the ceiling of the Lamias monastery at Sik-kim is entirely astrological.


The outer circle of the figure is divided into 12 parts, which are termed the nidanas, or the causes that move the soul to rebirth. These nidanas are the 12 zodiacal signs, each one of which contains within it an impulse to action, or as the ancients termed it, a cause of contact.


The first nidana, under Aries, is called the unconscious will. It is represented by a blind man, and signifies the soul passing from death to rebirth.


The second nidana, under Taurus, is called conformation, and is represented by a potter and his pots signifying the soul shaping the materials of the mental and physical natures.

The third nidana, under Gemini, called the conscious will, is typified by the restlessness of the monkey. It signifies the rise of conscious experience in the soul.


The fourth nidana, under Cancer, called self-consciousness, is represented by a ship containing man, woman, and animals and signifies the rise of the quality of individuality.

The fifth nidana, under Leo, is represented by an empty house, and signifies the development of the sensory perceptions.

The sixth nidana, under Virgo, is a figure representing marriage, and signifies the focusing of the sense perceptions upon exterior objects.

The seventh nidana, under Libra, is represented by a figure with an arrow in its eye, and signifies the illusions of pain and pleasure and their reaction upon the soul.


The 8th Nadine, under Scorpio, is called desire, and is involved in the experiences of gratification.

The ninth nidana, under Sagittarius, is termed indulgence, and is represented by a man collecting fruit into a basket. It signifies attachment to worldly possessions.

The tenth nidana, under Capricorn, represents maturity, and signifies the fullness of material existence brought to its highest philosophical level.

The eleventh nidana, under Aquarius, is compensation represented by the birth of a son. This signifies the paying off of all debts to nature and final detachment there from.

The twelfth nidana, under Pisces, shows the dead body being carried to the grave. It signifies decay of all points of contact by which the life is held to the material state.


After the twelfth, the first begins again, and so on through all the cycles of existence. The nidanas of course, represent the dominating consciousness or the place of the spiritual self in the great cycle of progress. While our little life has its birth, growth, maturity and decay, so many hundreds of these lives form together a greater cycle involving a vast process of life moving through its several stages.


By the position of the sun, the nidana is determined; and by the Ascendant, the subdivision of the nidana is ascertained.

Thus, a person born with the sun in Pisces is born to the experience of detachment, for he is bringing a cycle of experience to an end.

A person born with the sun in Scorpio is born under the eighth nidana, and the sole purpose of his existence is to experience the consequences of greed, personality, and possession.

The Ascendant of the horoscope represents a minor cycle of experience with a great one. It qualifies and the general significance. For example, the fifth nidana, or Leo, is an externalising of the sensory power and generally manifests as ambition.

If the Ascendant is in the third nidana, of Gemini, representing the effort to establish individual sufficiency, it qualifies the major factor and denotes that the ambitions will be of an intellectual or mental nature. By calculations based upon this arrangement, the primary purpose of the soul's incarnation is established. In application, it is generally found that this purpose more or less dominates the individual in whose horoscope it is indicated.


In the Tibetan monastery figure, Kala Chakra, the central part of the design, representing the world or, more exactly, the conditions of consciousness which together make up the world, is divided into six parts. (See front page). In the painting, these parts or panels are filled with elaborate designs setting forth the conditions of souls in various levels or degrees of spiritual development.


The six compartments of the circle are divided into upper and lower hemispheres of three compartments each. The upper hemisphere represents the three nobles states of being which are denominated in degrees of excellence: 1 - the world of the gods; 2 - the world of the Titans or heroes; 3 - the world of men.


Together these three parts depict the happy states of consciousness, which are the reward of good karma, that is, lives of noble thought and action, balanced towards giving in life. The three compartments of the lower hemisphere of the circle depict the misery resultant from bad karma, or destructive thought, emotion, and action. The three compartments are named respectively: 1 - the world of animals; 2 - the world of ghosts; 3 - the world of hells or spheres of violent retribution.


In each of these six parts of the world is also depicted a form of the Buddha symbolizing the universal enlightenment, which regenerates and preserves evolving souls in all the spheres of being.

The sun, of course, represents the Buddha, the power of diffused illumination. The solar energy, distributed through the natural creation, is the universal source of the impulse toward light and truth.

The six compartments through which the sun's light shines pertain to the other major bodies of the solar system known to the old astrologers, the world of the gods.

The world of the gods is the sphere of Jupiter consciousness; that of the Titans, Martial consciousness; that of human beings, Mercurial consciousness. These planets, therefore, dominate the upper hemispheres of the sphere of consciousness. Venus represents animal consciousness; The moon, the imaginative consciousness, termed the world of ghosts; and Saturn, the retribution consciousness or the karmic hells


Reincarnation

In the East, it is taught that each soul coming into material life enters from one of the six compartments of the Wheel of the Law. Astrologically, the rule for determining the origin of the soul's present life cycle is as follows:

Examine the horoscope and discover whether the sun or the moon is stronger.

1. Determine this from position, dignity, and aspect. Then observe in which decant the more powerful luminary is placed. (10 degrees divisions in the Zodiac)

2. Find the ruler of this decant according to ordinary astrological practice, and the ruler of decant shall signify the sphere of consciousness, or Lokas, from which the soul came into birth. (Planetary Body's Sphere).


3. Next, examine the position of the planet, which is ruler of decanting as to its dignity, positioned, aspect, etc.

4. From this determine the quality of the previous life.

5. If the ruler of decants enjoys dignity and high position, the same would be true of the previous life of the native.

6. If it is afflicted, cadet, or ill placed, the previous state of the life was unfortunate.

7. The Brahmans practice a similar system. They consider only four worlds, but the method of determining this important matter is identical in both systems. In astrology, the sign ascending on the eastern angle of the heavens at the moment of birth is the general signification of the present incarnation.


And the entire horoscope is read from this Ascendant, and all the testimonies of the chart are blended with the fundamental keynote of this ascending sign. The zodiacal sign upon the cusp of the 12th house may be termed the preceding sign to the Ascendant, and the zodiacal sign upon the cusp of the 2nd house may be termed the succeeding sign from the Ascendant.

As the Ascendant signifies the present state of the evolving soul, the cusp of the 12th house becomes the signification of the life previous to the present one, and the sign upon the cusp of the 2nd house, the next incarnation after the present one.


The rule is that angular houses signify the present life, succeeding houses the next life to come, and cadet houses the previous life and its karma.

If, then, we move the horoscope sufficiently to bring the 12th house cusp to the Ascendant, we can then read the horoscope as the nativity of the previous life.


Ordinarily the 12th house of the horoscope is termed the house of self-undoing, in that it reveals the fundamental weaknesses of character which undermine the probability of present success. The term self-undoing is identical in meaning with karma, or the accumulation of past actions, which overshadow present conditions.

This accumulation is carried forward from life to life until all weaknesses are overcome and final perfection is achieved. It naturally follows that whatever zodiacal sign dominates the present life of the individual, the sign previous to it signifies the karma brought forward from the past.


The positions of the ruler of that sign and planets in the 12th house reveal the circumstances of the previous existence, the probable place and time of the previous birth, and the general circumstances of that existence.

Aries Ascending indicates Pisces to have dominated the previous existence. Aries, the first sign of the zodiac, is the beginning of a new cycle of experience. Aries people have come into this life from a previous existence of limitations, responsibility, and bondage. Their present life is therefore a release, and they move forward, dominated by strong ambition and enthusiasm.


Taurus Ascending; they have brought forward the impulse of the previous Arian existence. Mostly Taurus brings forward attitudes of Aries, and, beneath their artistic surface, emotional fires bear witness to the militancy of their previous incarnation.

Gemini Ascends we find beneath the intellectual attitude the karmic pressure of Taurus. The superficiality of the Gemini temperament is evident throughout English speaking countries. Still under the general intellectual surface of these individuals you find strong powerful economical and despotic manipulations as a hangover from previous lives lived with the Taurus complex.

Cancer Ascends; Gemini lurks in the background. Cancer people are subject to the distorted imaginations of negative and uncontrolled Mercury. It is hard for Cancer people to be natural and relaxed, for behind them is a life lived under the influence of a negative Mercury agitating the intellect by a complex of opinions and fears that are too often allowed to grow into fact.


Leo is Ascending; there is generally a strength complex arising out of the weakness of the previous life. For this reason, Leo people are apt to be egotistic and power-loving, building a positive outward front to protect a very sensitive, emotional, imaginative, subjective nature held over from the Cancer influence.

Virgo is Ascending; there is a subconscious repentance in the soul. The previous life was under the forceful, dominating influence of Leo. The Leo incarnations revealed the emptiness and vainness of authority, and the native is born into Virgo with a strong tendency to the simple life. Virgo is a sign of atonement, and the individual has the impulse to help a world, which he probably tyrannized in the previous life. Deep inside themselves, many Virgo people have rather a definite Leo superiority complex and a tendency to boss.


Libra Ascends; the individual brings into life Virgo karma. The people of Virgo have a tendency to lean and depend, and this weakness comes forward in Libra as a sense of internal insufficiency. The Libra native is of an artistic, somewhat irritable, delicate temperament. He has strong vanity arising out of his Virgo repentance.

Scorpio Ascends; the strong emotional power of the previous life combines its force with the fiery nature of this sign. Libra is artistic and emotional with a tendency to melancholy. Scorpio intensifies these qualities, giving also depth and organization to the thought. The self-gratification of Libra is the natural foundation for the powerful ambitions of Scorpio.

Sagittarius Ascending produces a jovial temperament, but the Scorpio qualities of the previous life are also present, producing their love of the mysterious, religious, and philosophic aspirations, a strong emotional nature, a love of power and position, and danger of over-indulgence. The Sagittarius releases the schemes and plots of Scorpio as vast promotion projects.

It may at first seem improbable that we should find much of Sagittarius in the Capricorn. With Capricorn rising, however, we find great emphasis upon the ambitions and a considerable measure of the Sagittarius concept of justice.



Capricorn Ascends, the individual generally feels that he is limited or inhibited. The large Jupiter promotions of his previous life are curtailed by the saturnine limitations of his present sphere of action, so he is dissatisfied and repressed.

Capricorn is the most limited sign in the zodiac (a limitation, however, mostly self-imposed), it is natural that the next incarnation should be a revolt against limitation. The result is the Aquarius whose life is often dedicated to unconventionality. With Aquarius rising, there is a general revolt against precedent, convention, and conservatives. Generous in large matters,

Aquarius often retains selfishness in small things essentially Capricorn.

Pisces is the last sign of the zodiac and it brings to an end the cycle of karma set in motion in Aries. People with this sign rising will usually have rather hectic lives, gathering up the loose ends of unfinished business.

From Aquarius, the preceding sign denotes vacillation, inconsistency and nervous-ness. From all the preceding signs come responsibilities and problems to be assimilated and transmuted into soul power. It is the particular duty of the Piscine to put his life in order and prepare himself for a new beginning of and a higher level of action. Pisces is the weakest of the signs because it represents the end of a cycle of experience.



By reading the 12th house as the Ascendant, the general pattern of the previous life can be determined with reasonable detail, and we can discover the subtle forces, which have brought us to our present state and dominate our present life.

Through the understanding of this branch of astrology, we can appreciate the old philosophical belief that what we are today is the result of what we have been, and that what we will be tomorrow must be the result of what we are today. We learn from the past, we labour in the present, and we build for the future.
Not sure how astrology works but it does effect our life..I do want to gather some information about astrology and I think it is the right thread to start with .
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Love this makes so much sense. Thank you.
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Greeting !
I wanted to share some reading on Astrology and Reincarnation by Manly P. Hall:

The rule is that the angular houses signify present life, succendant houses the next life to come, and candent houses the previous life and its karma.
Excellent post. Thank you Deanna!

I was skeptical when I first read it, but through past life regression and years worth of intensive research I know who I was in my past life and this system (cadent houses point to past life) does work to describe my past life (although it is vague and could describe one of several past lives - mine fits because I already know who I was, it would be harder to use this system to target an unknown past life in more than general broad strokes).
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Greeting !
I wanted to share some reading on Astrology and Reincarnation by Manly P. Hall:

In astrology the sign ascending on the eastern angle of the heavens at the moment of birth is the general significator of the present incarnation.

The zodiacal sign upon the cusp of the 12th house may be termed the preceding sign to the ascendant, and the zodiacal sing upon the cusp of the 2nd house may be termed toe succeeding sing from the Ascendant.

The ascendant is the general significator of the present incarnation.

The 12th house is the is the signifacator of the life previous to the present one.

The sing upon the 2nd house is the next incarnation after the present one.

The rule is that the angular houses signify present life, succendant houses the next life to come, and candent houses the previous life and its karma.

Ordinarily the 12th house of the horoscope is termed the house of self-undoing, in that it reveals the fundamental weakness of character which undermines the probability of present success. The term “self-undoing” is identical in meaning with karma, or the accumulation of past actions which overshadows present conditions. This accumulation is carried forward from life to life until all weaknesses are overcome and final perfection is achieved.

It naturally flows that whatever zodiacal sign dominates the present life of the individual, the sign previous to it signifies the karma brought forward from the past. The positions of the ruler of that sign and planets in the 12th house reveal the circumstances of the previous existence, the probable place and time of the previous birth, and the genral circumstances for the existence.

The sign Aries ascending indicates Pisces to have dominated the previous existence. Aires, the first sign of the zodiac, is the beginning of a new cycle of experience. Aires people have come into this life form a previous existence of limitation, responsibly, and bondage. Their present life therefore a release and they move forward, dominated by strong ambition and enthusiasm.

If Taurus ascending, they have brought forward the impulse of the previous Arian existence. Most Taurians bring forward attitudes of Aires, and beneath their artistic surface, emotional fires bear witness to the militancy of their previous incarnation.

When Gemini ascends
, we find beneath the intellectual attitude the karmic pressures of Taurus. The superficiality of the Gemini temperament is evident throughout this country, which is strongly mercurial. Yet, under the general intellectual surface of the national is a powerful and despotic economic force that is a distinct Taurian hangover.

When Cancer ascends,
Gemini lurks in the background. Cancer people are subject to the distorted imaginations of a negative and uncontrolled Mercury. Its hard for Cancer people to be natural and relaxed, for behind them is a life lived under the influence of a negative Mercury agitation the intellect by complex of options and fears that are too often allowed to grow into facts.

When Leo is ascending, there is a generally a strength complex arising out of the weakness of the previous life. For this reason, Leo people are apt to be egotistic and power-loving, building a positive outward front to protect a very sensitive, emotional, imaginative, subjective nature held over from the Cancer influence.

When Virgo is ascending,
there is a subconscious repentance in the soul. The previous life was under the forceful, domination influence of Leo. The Leo incarnation revealed the emptiness and vainness of authority, and the native is born into Virgo with a strong tendency to the simple life. Virgo is the sign of atonement, and the individual has the impulse to help a world which he probably tyrannized in the previous life. Deep inside themselves may Virgo people have rather definite Leo superiority complex and a tendency to boss.

When Libra ascends,
the individual brings into life Virgo Karma. The people of Virgo have a tendency to lean and depend, and this weakness comes forward in Libra as a sense of internal insufficiency. The Libra native is of an artistic, somewhat irritable, delicate temperament. He has a strong vanity arising out of his Virgo repentance.

When Scorpio ascends, the strong emotional power of the previous life combines its force with the fiery nature of this sign. Libra is artistic and emotional with a tendency to melancholy. Scorpio intensifies these qualities, giving also depth and organization to the though. The self-gratification of Libra is the national foundation for the powerful ambitions of the Scorpio.

Sagittarius ascending produces a jovial temperament, but the Scorpio qualities of the previous life are also present, producing their love of the mysterious, religious, and philosophic aspirations, a strong emotional nature, a love of power and position, and danger of overindulgence. The schemes and plots of Scorpio are released as vast promotion projects by the Sagittarians.

It may first seem improbable that we should find much of the Sagittarius in Capricornian. With Capricorn rising however, we find great emphasis upon the ambitions and considerable measure of the Sagittarian concept of justice. When Capricorn ascends, the individual generally feels that he is limited or inhibited. the large Jupiterian promotions of his previous life are curtailed by the Saturnine limitations of his present sphere of action, so he is dissatisfied and repressed.

As Capricorn is the most limited sign of the zodiac (a limitation, however, mostly self-imposed), it is natural that the next incarnation should be a revolt against limitation. The result is the Aquarian whose life if often dedicated to unconventionality. With Aquarius Rising, there is a general revolt against precedent, convention, and conservativeness. Generous in large matters, Aquarians often retain a selfishness in small things essentially Capricornian.

Pisces is the last sign of the zodiac as it brings to the end the cycle of karma set in motion in Aries. People with this sign rising will usually have rather hectic lives, gathering up loose ends of unfinished business. Firm Aquarius, the preceding sing, come vacillation, inconsistency, and nervousness. From all the preceding signs come responsibilities and problems to be assimilated and transmitted into soul power. Its is the particular duty of the Piscean to put his life in order and prepare himself for a new beginning and a higher level of action. Pisces is the weakest of the signs because it represents the end of a cycle of the experience.


By reading the 12th house as the Ascendant, the genral pattern of the previous life can be determined in reasonable detail, and we can discover the subtle forces we have brought us to our present state and dominate our present life. Thought the understanding of this branch of astrology, we can appreciate the old philosophical belief that all we are today is the result of what we have been, and that we will be tomorrow must be the result of what we are today. We learn from the past, we labor in the present, and we build for the future.

Thank you, that was very interesting.
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Could it be that with intercepted signs that the karma from both are being pulled into the present incarnation?
I'm wondering if having Saturn Rx could be the double karma? would you consider this as a possibility?
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