Chiron...
Hi Draco
With great respect.
There is plenty of knowledge out there about Chiron, and he has become quite a major part of "Our Horoscope".
I feel he does in fact have alot to do with the proccess of death, (the Rainbow Bridge, Chiron, IS the pathway to the other worlds) ESPECIALLY when he is croozing with Pluto.
To me, ALL Planets are connected to ALL of creation, at least within our system, in some manner or another.
NO EVENT can occur outside of the influence of ANYTHING, especially not a Planet. It's just that some have more of a part to play than others.
Even the Moon has a part to play in Death, for eg.
Have you ever focussed on the Moons aspect to your own chart for a day?
It almost directs the whole affair!
...Where is the Moon right now for you?
There is no "pause button" for a Planet (or anything for that matter).
The whole of creation is "Eternal" and at "One", inspite of our insistence it is otherwise. (consequential to our dillema regarding the "Illusion of Duality and Separation")
It comes down to refining perception and awareness - less thoughts (none if possible - meditation/yoga) = deeper perception...and "Being".
Not "Being" "Something, or Someone". Just B E I N G
quiet, silent.
From that point of Being, one becomes and perceives "All", and that includes...the Planets. (Gods)
See, Chiron isn't ONLY about "healing" etc, as such, he reflects lots of things, including "wounds" and "sickness" - the "Archilles Heal" is a very broad reference to whatever is the most "vulnerable" (in context to his current relationship with other planets...) part of a person or situation.
The trine between the Chief Justices' Chiron and the Tr Pluto "could"
(has to be) to me, be a major player in this mans' death.
Also, Just as there are no "bad or negative" aspects or planets per se. There is NO RULE as to whether a "supportive" planet or an aspect (a trine for eg) "will be positive in influence"...in our eyes
Sometimes supportive planets allow the "apparently" negative to occur with less resistence, or none.
If "destiny or fate" is at hand, the Gods will prevail, inspite of our resistence.
"We" have zero control over most things, we may have some free will within a "structure", but we don't control the structure itself.
Ie, we can change our approach or attitude about a given thing or person, but we can't neccessarily change "them", or "it"... and to try to, can sometimes be very frustrating and upsetting.
"Death" is not "negative" - it's a valid and very much NEEDED part of life that we should all learn to accept (and even look forward to..!)
It's our "fear" that creates the "illusion" that it is "bad" or "sad".
And that attitude to death is responsible for the whole planet living in relative fear, and some using that "concept of death", and "fear", as a tool to control and keep us oppressed collectivley, ie. "powerless".
Sure death is "sad" for those who are left behind, and its occurance re-affirms our "fears" about its inevitability.
However, "IT" is not bad..."IT" is part of life.
The trine for the Chief Justice in this instance, I feel, "allowed" and "conducted" the free flow of energies that were appropriate for the timing of his imminent death.
It was his time to leave, (Saturn, this material plane) to cross over the (Chiron) "Rainbow Bridge", and be croozing free in the world of light (Uranus) and beyond. Pluto is the energy that "allowed" that transformation to occur.
I have no idea about his chart so I can't make further comment regarding the particulars of his "departure". Good luck to him though!
I bet he is a very happy camper now
inspite of all the "sadness" his family is probably experiencing about him not being here anymore.
(bit selfish really, but that's human nature for you)
If you have a look at the transits for the timing of some of the terrorist acts, you will be surprised at the "f l o w" of planetary juice.
It gets challenging at that point, coz then one starts to wonder what is "right" and what is "wrong" - or what is in fact "destined"... and what is yet to come. :shock:
To remain as "cool and in love" as possible in the face of all this, is the only real (and best) option we have, anything else is possibly only adding to the confusion?
The "judgement of creation" is relative to a point of view, it can be "good, or bad", depending on who is looking, and from what point of reference.
One mans poison is another man bliss...
Eg, to a junkie, scoring a big bag of "whatever" is really good fortune, however, in the long run it's not all that good, is it? :?
Check Chiron out Draco, you're missing out on some really amazing stuff. ("stuff is good, stuff rox")
Barbara Hand Clow and Erin Sullivan have both written exellent books about Chiron, and both from very differing points of view.
Ultimately it comes down to us using and observing the "planetoid", and tuning ourselves to be aware of its presence.
Because we don't know about or feel something, doesn't for 1 minute mean it has no influence or importance.
It does mean however, that "we" are not percieving it, or aware of it...yet
If you look at Chiron at the times you're researching on your "Medical Astrology" thread, you will be blown away at how much he actually features.
Chiron is there at EVERY point. :shock:
Have you got an ephemeris? If you havn't, I suggest you get one.
I know you're only focussing on Pluto and Saturn in that thread, but if you want to get to the "nitty griity" of it, open up to Chiron...
(I plan to post on that thread as soon as I can, but I'm really busy with "stuff" at the moment)
Bom
ps. Keep it up, (and thank you) Draco, you're flying!
...thanks for that kyle8921