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Unread 05-27-2011, 09:33 AM
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This is my daughter's natal chart. I'm too subjective to try to analyze it myself, so please help me!
Pluto on MC and full 12th house worry me

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Unread 05-27-2011, 01:23 PM
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Re: My daughter

PLUTO there could suggest an inclination toward a research/science-oriented career.Control in the career may hold value,so maybe that could suggest business or a leadership role.She might have a desire to earn her income solo,but may end finding she needs the help or resources of others.

My thoughts aren't pro or anything..so this may just serve as a bump for your thread.
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But with full 12th, she is pretty shy. She is 15. Can this change over time?
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Unread 05-28-2011, 10:19 AM
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But with full 12th, she is pretty shy. She is 15. Can this change over time?

What is the date and time of birth of your daughter?

And what is your question?
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17.11.1996., 12:20 pm Zagreb, Croatia

She has problem in making contacts, she wants but it simply doesn't work. When she's in a group of hers let's say friends (mates), she...
Her exact words are "I don't speak because I'm affraid that they will think I'm silly so they think I'm annoying.

Sorry if my english is not good enough.

And she is about to go to high school this year, what do you think is the best for her?

Thanks in advance
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Re: My daughter

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This is my daughter's natal chart. I'm too subjective to try to analyze it myself, so please help me!
Pluto on MC and full 12th house worry me
You have calculated your chart using the default on astro.com of placidus and I use Equal House system and am a modern astrologer. Lots of people that come into Astrology get their free charts calculated at www.astro.com and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all that there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few more.

Throughout the forums but mainly in natal astrology there are two main branches Placidus (unequal size houses) v Equal House (whereby each house is same size) but lots more……. For more information on these go here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology)#Description
http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp
http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm

It's only with study and research will you be able to assess where your planets are deposited and in which houses... thus see which 'glove fits'


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Pluto in Conjunction, Trine, Sextile to Midheaven
Expect some major shifts in the area of career. You can rise to a position of great influence and then completely change direction at some point.
Pluto is conducive to uncovering that which has been hidden. Its action is rejuvenating. Anything which has been laid to rest can be recycled to begin anew. Consider some of the following career potentials: archaeology, espionage, psychiatry, mortuary science, the secret service, banking, or the medical profession--especially surgery.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectspluto.htm

Sun,mercury conj Pluto is extremely assertive, dogmatic and controlling


Sun conjunct Pluto

shows you possess the traits of an extremist in some ways. Your likes and dislikes can be intense. Being moderate in your actions is always a problem. There is a power complex in play here, and you have to deal with a tendency to become dictatorial. You have a power ego you assert on some occasions, and not always with common sense. Even if it doesn't show elsewhere in the chart, you are highly assertive and competitive. You have a significant social consciousness, and you are very intolerant of unfair circumstances and injustices.

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html#sucpl
mercury conj pluto
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shows that your mind is deep, penetrating, and somewhat inclined to extremes. You look for hidden meanings in what others say, and you evaluate everything subjectively. You see through people and sense their motives. Once you have made up your mind on a subject you rarely change your views, and you are very assertive in expressing them. So much so you can be overbearing at times. Nonetheless, you are a spokesperson for whatever cause you engender. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/mercuryaspects.html#mecpl
this would make a great lawyers, teacher, lecturer and researcher and in EQual house that stellium would be 10th house not 9th. Venus in 9th shows a love of learning, like higher education, travel all 9th house matters. She could even live abroad for a while or fall for a foreigner...

Venus however, is challenged by a square to uranus (divorce aspect) and square to Neptune is 'rose tinted glasses' and illusions, confusions and deceptions regarding romance and finances..
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New chart with equal houses, transits and progressions

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This is my daughter's natal chart. I'm too subjective to try to analyze it myself, so please help me!
Pluto on MC and full 12th house worry me

Scorpio in general aren't known for being outgoing per-say and her chart ruler Uranus is in the 12th house perhaps making her personality more "hidden" then an Aquarius rising sign and Moon would suggest. My first thought about those 12th house planets were that they weren't personal, but since Uranus is rising it becomes so. Maybe she just needs to develop more confidence as she has the potential to be more outgoing than she is living. Sun and Mercury conjunct Pluto, she is pretty intense and probably has very strong opinions. I think getting a formal education will help her develop more confidence in her interpersonal skills in a group setting. She has 4 years to decide what she wants to do before college, what interests her and what is she good at? Whatever it is help her develop this and perhaps eventually make a career out of it. Don't worry about Pluto on the MC. It can show passion for one's career and make someone an expert in their chosen field.
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Thank you Vista!
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Re: My daughter

I suspect it's the sun square moon aspect whch shows divorced or minimum divided parents and it may take a while to integrate the female/male energies.

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Self-expression is blocked by emotional hangups or habit patterns that may be inherited or conditioned by past events. Family and domestic affairs keep you from developing the way you would like. The conditions in your early family environment may have caused difficulties in understanding and getting along with the opposite sex. In these relationships you can be too argumentative and defensive. You may need to get the chip off your shoulder sometimes. This aspect suggests a conflict between the ego and the emotions. There is a presence of tension between your outer and inner self
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html#susmo

Looking at mercury (communications planet) only shows one challenge ie; square to mars, which can make for argumentativness and too forceful speech patterns...

I agree Scorpio and Cappi in my mind are the two least sociable signs, cappi cos it's a workaholic and tight with it's money and scorpio cos it doesn't want people knowing it business and is a very private sign....
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Re: My daughter

Hey, dear sir, I took a look at your daughter's chart with the superior house system (Vehlow) and have noticed the following:

- Mercury Pluto will make her have different thoughts, intense
- Her Sun is affected by Aquarius to some degree, because of the subdivision sign it is in, so she may appear like an Aquarius Sun
- Her 1st house is mostly in Aquarius, and the Moon is in 1st, which can give her an emotional nature with friends, albeit due to Aquarius it might not change in a long time
- You need to see her Saturn is in the 3rd, and that means she does not mince words, and does not speak unless necessary
- Mars is the ruler of the 3rd and it is in the house of nothingness, the 8th house
- Mars is square her Mercury shows difficulties in communication, and Mercury being in the 11th house shows friends
- South Node in 3rd makes communication an issue in her life

These are the important key facts that catched my eye.
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Re: My daughter

I've never heard of Vehlow house system.

You've explained the problem. But is there the way out?

Could you upload her cart with this house system?

And thank you!

P.S. I'm a woman
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Hey, dear sir, I took a look at your daughter's chart with the superior house system (Vehlow) and have noticed the following:

- Mercury Pluto will make her have different thoughts, intense
- Her Sun is affected by Aquarius to some degree, because of the subdivision sign it is in, so she may appear like an Aquarius Sun
- Her 1st house is mostly in Aquarius, and the Moon is in 1st, which can give her an emotional nature with friends, albeit due to Aquarius it might not change in a long time
- You need to see her Saturn is in the 3rd, and that means she does not mince words, and does not speak unless necessary
- Mars is the ruler of the 3rd and it is in the house of nothingness, the 8th house
- Mars is square her Mercury shows difficulties in communication, and Mercury being in the 11th house shows friends
- South Node in 3rd makes communication an issue in her life

These are the important key facts that catched my eye.
How can yoiu describe 8th house like this??
The house of SEX, other people's finances
The Mysteries of the 8th House: House of Death & Transformation
by Carmen Turner-Schott
http://www.ofspirit.com/carmenturnerschott1.htm
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How can yoiu describe 8th house like this??
The house of SEX, other people's finances
The Mysteries of the 8th House: House of Death & Transformation
by Carmen Turner-Schott
http://www.ofspirit.com/carmenturnerschott1.htm
How would you describe it?
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Re: My daughter

She has moon in pisces, that could be the reason of shyness, I have that too
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She has moon in pisces, that could be the reason of shyness, I have that too
No, her Moon is in aquarius
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